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jim2
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232 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 1:25AM
This is the reason always given as to why series such as The Gangbang girl are disappearing. Yet I just looked at future releases from Devils Film and Pink Visual and they both are still putting out gangbang titles. So where do these studios come up with the bucks? They are both good studios, but not among the elite of porn IMO. Sure, maybe they don't use big name talent, but at least it's a gangbang. I'm sure many gangbang fans like myself just want any gangbang. It don't have to be an All-Star gangbang. I don't understand why the big name studios just don't bring in lesser talent to shoot one, if using the All-stars is too expensive.
ashten
Member

254 Posts
4/07
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 3:25AM
I LOVE gangbangs and I agree with you that I want to see some of the bigger studios do gangbang films. I'm guessing that they don't sell too well. If you don't love gangbangs your not going take the risk in making them if they don't sell.
kantabcd
Deactivated User

167 Posts
5/09
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 4:21AM
Definitely its too expensive. That why the popular series are not releasing new. Gangbang Girl 37 was released more than two years ago. No new by this time and no news of that. Probably not release ever. Gang Bang 6 (RLD) over one year and no new. Gang Me Bang Me the same.
The Gangbang Girl 32 was one of the most expensive I think. They shoot Kimberly Franklin Scene in the flood light of a stadium. They had to rent the stadium for that night and they also payed for the flood light. There were 12 male talent like Lexington Steele, Mr. Marcus, John Strong, Brian Surewood and Erik Everhard. You have to pay them all. And in consists two scenes with 3 girls. You have to pay 3 girls and 12 guys twice. Also, rent for the shooting place and all other cost, DVD price remaining the same.
All you can do with 1/5 of the money if you include 2 boy-girl, 1 lesbian and a dp scene. The DVD price are the same. So, why the Studios would take risks?
This year only two great Gangbangs relesed, that is Young Harlots Gangbang with Amber Rayne and Super hot Andi Anderson and Insatiable Voyage with Bobby Starr and Dana DeArmond. Others are 3/4 man mini Gangbang with a little dp scene.
All I can conclude that there are no good news for the Gangbang fans (I am also a huge fan of that). Despite that I am hoping Gangbangs Like Gangbang Girl or Gang Bang will continue and new ones will be released!
Edited by - kantabcd on 10/31/2009 4:39:43 PM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 6:22AM
The cost is not why gangbangs are in decline, if that was the case than why would it only be c-list companies producing them now?
I think the truth is that this is a niche taste and with the market contracting the kind of micro-niche productions will become more rare or move purely to the internet.
kantabcd
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167 Posts
5/09
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 10:24AM
Its all about quality Gangbangs.
Look at now a days so called Gangbangs. With 3/4 men and an unwilling girl who doesn't respond well. No story behind and not outdoor. The men just came in and start to fuck. In gonzo porn, the stars are to be paid for every minute also.
The gangbangs releasing now are Gangland (all with 3 men and interracial), University Gangbang (also with 3 men) etc. which can't be told quality gangbangs. These are low budget mini gangbangs.
Look at Anabolic Gangbang Girl or Red Light District Gang Bang. All the titles have background story. The scenes are about 1 hour long. With 12 men at least and lots of hard action. This must be expensive. The last title of Anabolic Gangbang Girl sold well, same to RLD Gang Bang.
Actually, the fact is the expense, which is hard to get back in Gangbangs. If you gain same amount with 1/5 cost, will you invest 5 times more?
 
Fernandez
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781 Posts
12/08
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 10:44AM
There are also many buyers like myself, who will buy many genres but not gangbangs.
I will buy anything with Alexis Texas, but not in a gangbang.
I buy porn to look at the girls, not the mopes.
jim2
Member

232 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 12:32PM
[/quote]
kantabcd wrote:

Its all about quality Gangbangs.
Look at now a days so called Gangbangs. With 3/4 men and an unwilling girl who doesn't respond well. No story behind and not outdoor. The men just came in and start to fuck. In gonzo porn, the stars are to be paid for every minute also.
[/quote]I guess I'm just the kind of guy who likes a large quantity and is willing to sacrifice some quality. There are a lot of lesser known girls that do a decent job IMO. The two studios I mentioned do an adequate job. Sure, I'd like to see a girl with 12 guys also, but I still think 3 or 4 on one is better than 1 on 1 which is what mostly all the big studios are giving us now. An average quality gangbang is better than no gangbang IMO.

VictoriaGivens
Member

113 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 12:44PM
DVD sales have gone down dramatically for all companies in the last couple years, as with sales in any other industry. Any new production is very limited right now. Fortunately, most studios were a year or two ahead on titles at the start of the recession. Those titles are being released now. Things will turn around eventually and everything will be back to normal.
Edited by - VictoriaGivens on 10/31/2009 12:45:33 PM
Draxxx
Senior Member

3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 12:50PM
I'm not a big fan of gangbangs in general. Having 12 guys on one girl doesn't work for me because a girl can only do so much. Having more than 3 guys at a time with a girl just gets crowded and awkward. Having a bunch a guys standing around wanking themselves while they're waiting is a bit creepy to me. I also hate that if one or more guys is really getting into a groove with the girl they have stop the heat to let another guy(s) have their turn. If there's more than one girl in the scene, I hate that they switch back and forth because there's always one girl I want to see more than the other and I hate that they switch just as I'm getting into the girl I want to see.
In my mind, the idea of a gangbang is better than the reality. I'd rather have a girl I like and no more than 3 strong male performers staying busy.
Christopher256
Member

146 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 31 2009 : 2:13PM
Man I love gangbangs. There nothing better in porn than a great one in my opinion. Sasha Grey in Gangbang 5 RLD, Carly Parker in Gangbang Girl 26, and Tory Lane in Clusterfuck 5 are some of my favorites. Too bad they are in decline. In any case if a big star does a gangbang it will sell very well, so the genre will never come close to exstiction. It's not a niche market.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 2:54PM
RLD are hardly a top company these days.
kantabcd
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167 Posts
5/09
Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 6:30PM
Not Carly Parker, actually Christy Parks
See more of her [ invalid url ]
map47
Member

92 Posts
1/09
Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 7:08PM
hi,
i do not mind gangbangs is they are done with some style and the ladies are enjoying themslves.i do however prefer orgies,i have seen some good euro dvds in the past! regards map47
Blicky25
Member

68 Posts
10/09
Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 8:28PM
Is it expensive because all the guys have to be paid? Guys don't make that much money so I don't think it will be that expensive.
kantabcd
Deactivated User

167 Posts
5/09
Posted - Nov 3 2009 : 3:49AM
You are wrong! How much to be paid to the males for a non gangbang DVD? Considering $300 each and 4 scenes its $1200. And in a gangbang, you have to pay 12x2= 24 guys at least $4800 (Considering $200 each). The female will take a lot more than a dp movie (which is the most for non gangbang DVD).
Its definitely cost a lot more. Anabolic and RLD were two top studios in early 2000s. At that time they released gangbangs regularly. Now they are not so rich. They are now releasing low budget titles only. Not that, their Gangbangs couldn't make gain for them, but if they earn same money spending a lot less, why the studios will make gangbangs?
Ask, any porn industry/ studio related people, they will say its expensive. I am not telling that cost is the only fact for what gangbangs are making less day by day, but its a fact certainly.
Edited by - kantabcd on 11/3/2009 3:55:39 AM
 
skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Nov 3 2009 : 4:07AM
I'm not sure how much the C-list male talent is paid for most of the current gsng bangs but you know even if it is only $300 a dude, the girl is going to command a good bit more since in these titles she's selling the movie more so than usual. Unfortunately, the days when you could get the top 10-12 gonzo dudes onboard for a gang bang are long gone. Most porn guys who can get $800 for a scene prefer to work solo. And if you don't have A-list guys to drive the action, it's not going to be a good scene.
However ... Chris Streams's mini-bangs (6 dudes) are really well done ... and Kink.com's Public Disgrace offers some fun public gang bangs and dungeon bangs ... It's usually one A-list porn guy and a lot of SF locals just in it for the fun, but the vibe is very cool. Even the mopes do OK for Mike John and Von Swine, but I think those are more blobangs and grope fests that get outof hand than full-on gangbangs.
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Marv Montag (@PornOfYore)
2506 Posts
2/09
Posted - Nov 4 2009 : 10:12AM
Funny...I would be the first in line for a big Alexis Texas gangbang... tastes differ, I guess...
Stalag
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476 Posts
1/10
Posted - May 8 2010 : 10:34AM
Just lots of guys wanking.



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