PS: You should have a few breaks between paragraphs so your thoughts can be read easier. (just my opinion though)
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| grancabron Member 255 Posts 5/03 | Some posters have claimed recently that the cum in these movies is fake, that it cums out of small tubes next to the guys dick. Since the dick is obscured by a mosaic, you can't say definitively that there is no such tube. Here is my opinion about whether Japanese massive swallowing videos are real or bogus. I have about 30 of these DVDs and I believe that they are shooting real cum in the videos made by Moodyz, WAAP and Shuttle-Japan. There may be some other companies out there making bogus stuff but these 3 companies appear to be legit. There are too many reasons not to believe that it's fake cum. I have the Kirari Koizumi disc in which she swallows 163 loads. She doesn't do this in one scene. There are 6 or 7 different scenes, almost certainly shot on different days. So she isn't swallowing this huge amount in one day. Some of the cumshots are the thick yogurt-like stuff, some are watery, others are in between. Some guys shoot a lot, some shoot a little. Some shoot strong streams from a distance (like Petrer North, but not as strong) , others drip out (like Brandon Iron). In one scene Kirari is getting fucked by a guy wearing a condom while about 45 guys jack off onto a large glass plate. Yeah, she drinks it all at the end of the scene. But just before the big gulp, the guy fucking her pulls out of her, takes off the condom quickly and moves up and cums in her mouth, and she swallows. I don't think he was wearing some little tube attached to a well of fake cum while her was fucking her, so that shot must have been legit, and the cum looked real, and looked like the other cumshots that guys jacked-off to produce. I have looked closely at other videos I have to see if there were signs of fraud, but I really can't see it. The cumshots are too varied in their release to be produced by some mechanical squirting tube. Just as every man has a unique fingerprint, he also has a unique cumshot style, based on the individual variations in the length and shape of his urethra, etc. The cumshots don't seem to follow a pattern. In some of the Shuttle dics, when the woman swallows a large amount (that has dripped off her face into a pan and then is put into a glass cyliner) some of the women have a really hard time swallowing the cum. You can tell they are not acting, it's a real struggle for them. It may take them a long time to finish, but they do it. There are a minority who are able to drink it down quickly without problem. And if it's fake cum, then why aren't the prettiest Japanese AV stars doing these videos? Most of the chicks doing this are rather plain looking. There are only about 4 women that I have seen that are really very attractive - Kirari Koizumi and Mako Umino stand out as teh top two. Maybe the producers are able to pull off this hoax, but if so it's a pretty elaborate one. Maybe there is a Japanese guy on this site who has been at one of these shoots who can tell us if they are real. [Link] |
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| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | Someone posted here a long time ago that Kazuhiko Matsumoto (famous MVG director) paid his star 10k to do the swallowing scene in one particular movie. Why on earth would someone pay someone that much to just swallow fake cum? Yes, there is mosaic and if you squint you can pretty much see everything. There is no way they could have some tiny tube attached to their dick, give me a break! Please, can you imagine what fake cum shooting out of a tube would look like? Everytime someone shoots their load it's all different, just like you've mentioned. I think people who see massive cum swallowing in Japan just don't want to believe its real. Since you know..they don't make bukkake movies like that in the USA so it MUST be fake! There are reasons why they won't ever have women swallowing 100 shots of semen out of a bowl all that once in the usa. I'm not sure why that is though. I do think that if we had mosaic censoring in every single porn movie here we sure the hell would find a way to come up with porn that would sell. They just have to come up with nasty stuff to make money. For some strange reason, in Japanese bukkake the last thing I care about really is the sex, strange huh? Another reason they won't use fake cum in movies from big studios is that It's not worth it. Nobody would let them get away with it and with all those men performing word would have to get out and they'd lose customers. They do use fake cum in some SOD/Waap titles. This is where it is so obvious. It's meant to look like cum but they call it "lotion play" or something like that. It's where they dump a bunch of goop on women and have them play with it. I'm sure that there is very small, not very well known production companies that use fake cum. I'm pretty sure i've seen it a few times. But it's mainly in a small facial scene. I think I saw something like that once. In an old Kasakura movie I saw these nurses swallow cumshots out of a vial and I was 100% sure the cum was fake. But they didn't swallow and it didn't bother me that much. Hell, I can look at that huge jar of semen in the Bukkake Summit series. It looks so damn nasty..it has this nasty yellowish tint to it and it has this weird texture to it. It looks so nasty, so please don't tell me they could fake such a thing and still have it be drinkable. BTW another scene that has fake cum I believe (it's obvious though) is Sperm Lesbian from DOGMA. It's poured down on top of them in one scene. It adds to the scene though and if anyone thought that would be real... As for attractive Japanese woman..I love Nanami Nanase. She's in such nasty titles that you'd think nobody like her would be in such movies. One of her best is SDDH-011 which is Semen Maniac. Most extreme Japanese bukkake movie there is. There is too many to list, but I also like Momo Iizawa and Rina Takese. |
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| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | No, seriously. I didn't mean like the government would come after them or something. Actually all I meant is that their customers would not allow it and complain. That's it. If people knew they used fake cum, mosty likely the customers would complain and their sales would drop. It's almost like they're lying right to your customers, making them think it's real when it's not. |
| grancabron Member 255 Posts 5/03 | I just watched one of my favorite movies, "Condensed Milk" with Kurumi Morishita. There is no way there are tubes attached to those dicks. Many times you see the dick straight on, both sides visible, and even with the mosaic, you can tell there is no tube and that the cum is exiting from the tip of the dick. But regardless of the evidence, I'm certain there will always be those conspiracy theorists out there. I think Japanese women find the taste of cum less objectionable than American women because they are used to eating some funky-tasting stuff; seaweed, raw fish, etc. And the Japanese have a strong predilection for fetish, especially the submissive female. A lot of their stuff is based on rape fantasies and bondage. The women seem to really be into it too, not just the men. That part I'm not so fond of, but in the areas of bukkake and cum-swallowing, they are still by far the best. Brandon Iron, Mike John, JM Productions and some others are leading the way for America to catch up, but it will take a long time. But hey, it's all good... |
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| MisterNoGood Member 195 Posts 2/04 | As a bukkake fan, I would like to believe its real too. However when I see a movie such as DY06 Bukkake Gang Bang, then I start questioning the credibility of these movies. Would it hurt you so much to at least have an open mind about it? Try to find DY06 Bukkake Gang Bang, put it in your player and set the time to 29:30 and watch the cumshots. Even though the movie is uncensored, it is still difficult to see the tubes, you have to go frame by frame to notice them. At 32:46 pause the movie and look in the upper left corner of the screen at the very top and you will see a guys hand quickly picking up the tube that he dropped. Continue thru the rest of the scene and go frame by frame for the cumshots. I find this movie interesting. And yeah I know that you would say "just because one studio uses the tubes doesnt mean they all do." But is shows that it would be possible to fake some of the cumshots in Bukkake films. In the end though, I think people that want to believe Japanese Bukkake films are real are still going to, and people who dont believe they are real are not going to. Edited by - MisterNoGood on 5/26/2005 9:57:20 PM |
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| MisterNoGood Member 195 Posts 2/04 | DY06 Bukkake Gang Bang is released by Typhoon Pictures. I dont know if it is one of their movies or if they release movies outside of Japan for other companies. It has been out for quite a while now, so it would seem that companies can "get away" with making phoney bukkake movies. I would love to find some uncensored Shuttle movies, but so far I am unable to, and I think there is a reason they dont make them available to people outside Japan. All kinds of uncensored Japanese porn is easy to find, except for bukkake movies. Anyway, this movie just shows that phoney bukkake movies are out there, and it is easy to do. |
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| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | Obviously the reason people think the japanese ones are is just because of the simple fact that they swallow so much more and they're censored. How on each could over a dozen guys "hide" a tube you THINK you saw in a bukkake movie. For all you know it could be made anywhere. Lame Typhoon videos are not real Japanese bukkake. BTW there is another uncensored Japanese bukkake title out there on the market. It's released by Fantadream and it was made by MVG. I know this because they have the MVG logo everywhere on the set. From what I can tell though, it's an unreleased MVG title. Go get that and tell me that's not real enough for you. And yes Shuttle DOES in fact have an uncensored bukkake title. I have it. Every guy has a cum shooting machine attached to their back with long hoses attached to their penis. The story goes like this..long ago Shuttle was interested in selling movies here in the USA so they sent out demo tapes to companies in the usa that might be interestedin distributing their products. Of course nobody was interested in them because of their high price. I won't say where I got this tape but i'm sure you can still find it online, but it's really nothing that good and the quality is low. |
| grancabron Member 255 Posts 5/03 | Yes, I can highly recommend "condensed milk". It's one of my favorites. Mister No Good, |
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| MegumiOhana24 New Member 1 Posts 9/23 | further reading:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Japan#:~:text=While%20Article%2021%20of%20the,the%20Criminal%20Code%20of%20Japan. On my Opinion: Yeah sometimes its annoying or disappointing when you watching or seeing a Japanese made porn or Javporn but its their law we should respect it but I'm still hoping that it will be remove that or lifted the law as an option and also i would like to suggest on Japanese porn makers that they will add the English subtitles on their videos to better understand the whole stories |
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