Bush returned to porn because of top performers back in the mid to late 2000s like Sasha Grey, Ginna and Kristina Rose growong theirs out not because of any pressure from agents.

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What exactly is a "standard porn scene" other than a porn scene with people whose appearance you approve of? "Standard" is nothing more than a measure of the time you're talking about. As you alluded to pubic hair on women was common in the 1970s so was that not the "standard" back then? Fetishism and minority are not interchangeable. By definition a fetish is a fixation to a feature or body part, not by whether it's minority of people who have that fixation. You also seem to live under this mistaken impression that fetish and mainstream porn don't crossover but that's nonsense. Big boob porn is usually considered mainstream but it's still a fetish as the fixation is on her having large breasts. Hell, your preference of women being bald downstairs is a fetish as you put so much emphasis on it and need for it to be present to get your jollies.

There's another ADT user who had a similar complaint though his dislike of public hair was pathological to the point of calling such women dirty but either way, there's a really simple solution: vote with your wallet. If people stop buying porn that has something unpopular, maybe studios and individuals will realize they're not giving the people what they want.

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This concept kinda carved itself in my brain as I still prefer hairy pussies over bald ones. Girls begun to heavily trim their bushes as much as their swimsuits went shrinking especially when wearing a topless mini-tanga , which were very common in Europe in the late nineties and over , there was no room for any hair under that very little piece of tissue covering her genitals, from then on many women begun to fully shave their bush , it was also much simpler than trim it regularly.
As a side benefit some fake blonde wouldn't be exposed by their black pubic hair .

as for classy women, in Italy Countess Marina Ripa di Meana a prominent member of the jet set campaigned against furs and hunting , she posed naked sporting her fully hairy pussy so ...

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There is something fundamentally sexy about a woman sporting a nice bush and I'm glad that we see more women with them today.

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I don't think agents are pushing anything , maybe that one agent was just looking for some performers for Rodney Moore hairy series , so he asked because of that, there's no demand for bushed women , it's reduced to a fetish at best

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Agents can't even discourage their clients from getting unnecessary breast augmentations so I doubt they can "force" a starlet to grow hair.

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For instance you don't usually see men cumswap in a scene that is targeted at heterosexual. Because its not arousing for heterosexual man. Yet sometimes i see guys licking their own cum out of the performers face or kissing her while she is full of cum. This may not be homosexual completely as he only interact with his own fluid but i do think it lean to homosexuality in a way. I can't say how many guys like or don't mind that but its something that turn me off in a porn scene and i will either retrim the scene myself to "cut that part" out. It remind me of 90s/early 2000s porn when some peoples made edit to porn scenes to remove the male performer "face closeup" before he came. Now i just want to make it all clear, im not against homosexuality obviously and im totally for companies to shoot gay porn for gay customers. But in my "heterosexual porn" i prefer not to see male on male interaction or even guy interacting with his own fluids.

That being said to get back on the bush thing, i feel its totally fine to shoot movies for fans of super hairy vagina, but wish those would be marketed as that. Kinda like im not a fan of gaping assholes and those are USUALLY in scenes/series that focuss on this so i can avoid them.

Maybe the "not liking pubic hair" is linked to my generation or whatever, but for ME when i see a woman with pubic hair, no matter if she is a duchess or what not, it scream "the woman who does not even take the time to make herself look good", like she does not take care of her body. I feel the same for legs or whatever.

Even as a teen, i had a professor who was fairly attractive facially, nice body, i was a teen (around 14/15) but she had very hairy forearms, more hairy than my natural 30s self. It was a major turn off for all of us (me and my friends) as we would sometimes joke about this behind her back. Now yes it was "teen mean" a bit at time, but you get the point.

As for the guy mentioning doctor and underrage, can i repeat for me this has NOTHING to do with underrage. The ass is also something hairy naturally, yet (for now) you don't see any hairy ass in porn. Why? Because for some reason hairy ass is a turn off maybe for more peoples than hairy vagina. Yes i get that vaginas can have many different levels of hairy. Thanksfully MOST performers have not crossed the line of hairy "vagina lips", it seem to remain "above" but i fear this will happen and ill have a hard time finding "good porn" :/

As for ink, its another thing that is going "exagerated" in this days and age. I am not against some tatoos, i totally loved Krystal Steal lower back tribal and Jenna Jameson's tatoos (while she performed, not now) didn't bothered me. But lately i see so much women with beautifull bodies just covered with tatoos, i just don't understand. Some of them are also very questionable and seem to be there because "hey she just felt like adding another one". There is even some women with FACE tatoos these days :O :O

But well i guess thats maybe another debate for another thread.

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but to really understand that point you should take a look at the covers of some Japanese porn in which some girls known to be well over 20, got a make-up, are dressed accordingly and of course sport a fully bald pubic are to the point they look like grade school girls, quite disturbing.It's called loli or lolicon genre, They say it's just a fantasy they're all grown up adult women.
I don't want to digress about those with that kind of fantasies.

Anyway it would be impossible if they were sporting a fully grown bush in their pubic area, there would be no way for a fantasized kid to have that

Than of course a clearly adult woman who is bald has nothing to do with that, plus today at least in the western world being bald down there means nothing , Ijust said the way it felt when I hit puberty , back then only little kids were bald down there and that had an effect on my sexual tastes of course

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A generational link is just a lazy stereotype. I'm in the same age range as you and while I may have had a preference for a "shaven haven" when I was younger, I happen to appreciate varying pubic hair styles on women today. Making herself "look good" is a matter of perspective, not an irrefutable fact. Try to remember that physical attractiveness is down to the individual. Tom can find a hairy minge attractive, Dick may not while Harry can be indifferent and it's not limited to just three types of people in terms of their thoughts on female pubic hair.

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Much like a trimmed beard with its carefully designed lenght and shape over a full shaven face , when I had the first it needed at least half hour a day to be taken care of, the latter just ten minutes.

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As for the trailers etc yeah obviously, but here is the thing. When you been watching porn a while you eventually get biased of it. You become selective. Both of performers and type of scenes, if now i have to filter one more thing its kinda annoying... make it even harder to find good porn. Some websites like brazzers produce in big quantities so they remain a "good value" (as long as you are into 1 on 1 scenes, because 80% of their content is that) but some other websites put 1 scene every week. So 4 a month... can't be as selective. Ultimately tough when you have a performer you enjoy and like, but these days she has hair in EVERY scenes, it get a bit annoying. Could she not shave entirely for at couple weeks of her shooting schedule? Give us some hair free porn... I mean that stuff grows back right? lol

I don't get DVDs anymore because of 2 things, first they are unpractical (i like my porn ready at a click and easily browsable in my media player) and 2 when i have wank a few times to a scene i rarely watch it again unless its an amazing scene (like a gangbang or special setting). Thats why i use brazzers as an exemple, thanksfully there is tons of stuff release on a constant basic so even if lots of it in not memorable at least the volume make up for it.

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In today JAV though things have changed basically all those actresses eligible to shoot lolicon movies (basically any actress no more than 4 ft 10" tall with a b cup max breast, which means a lot of them) stay bald so that they won't have to pass any job available , a freshly shaven area would be very much recognizable and this would ruin a loli movie.

It's beginning to be a little bit harder to find bushy women even in Japanese Adult Videos

Edit this hottie here is Suzumiya Kotone formerly and mostly known as Shirosaki Aoi , she shot some of those loli movies whose covers are on the thumbs in her filmography linked before, she also did some uncensored stuff back then she disappeared for a year and now she's back but as you can see this time there's no way she could pass for a loli, this is her latest, issued on August 25

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Who said you cease being selective as you watch more porn? I am selective myself and I have no idea why you seem to assume I am not. Liking variety in one physical feature doesn't mean I can't be otherwise selective in what I watch or like - it's naive to see in such a black and white way when there is something called nuance in life. Being selective doesn't mean the studios should cater specifically to you, that's what you buy custom porn for. Your "here is the thing" counter argument is just lazy excuses. I have no reservation filtering out who or what I don't like in porn. Yes, pubic hair grows back but in this day and age women have something called autonomy over their bodies. It's at the studio's discretion whether to cast and shoot women for having a particular look as it is at your discretion whether to watch them or not.

Who said you have to buy DVDs any more? The studios or vendors selling them often show covers, don't they? I don't buy DVDs myself but that doesn't mean I can't check the covers online, does it?

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Not to mention it gets discussed in just about every girl's thread.

The question asked here was whether there was actually a phenomenon of girls being instructed by agents to grow out their pubes.

The OP says he heard one girl say that this is the case. Has anyone else heard this? Is it possibly an isolated incident? Has anyone heard of the opposite - an agent telling a girl she has to shave her pubes?

That's where the discussion needs to go.

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This is Marilyn Jess a most prominent French actress with an almost ten years long career who retired right after the John Holmes HIV scare in 1989, she was the one in Traci Lords' lesbian scene in Traci I Love You! (1987)
She begun this way

Here's in mid eighties

and thisis her in late Eighties

Not only she sported a full bush but it went even growing bigger over the years , and she wasn't the only one sporting a bush but I'm not creating a gallery here, she's just an example
The trend begun to change and the bush become thinner in mid ninenties although it wasn't fully bald yet , here's Silvia Saint

Why her?
Because she was there when it changed, there's a date on the picture take a look

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My problem is that hair is getting back to be longer than in the 90s... "more bushy" and not well groomed like i mentioned (those little stripes) and i really fear it spread to ungroom completely at some point.

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Actually i think Riley Reid is pretty cute, nice face, nice eyes, but the bush was always such a turn off i could never watch anything beside blowjob scenes with her. And yeah she was one of the first few i noticed having hairt downstair and that it bothered me.

The other day i was on chaturbate and there was a camgirl i tough was pretty hot, i was wanking and all, and suddenly someone tip for "pants off", and i see the big bushy (that was like EVERYWHERE, even on vaginal lips) and i just lost my boner, like not even figuratively, i litteraly deflated right away. Shot down the page immediately. Even if she had a cute face, nice breast... I just turn me off..thats it.

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No comeback to that whatsoever!

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