I recently finished watching the SEXZ Pictures movie titled "Corrupted" which included a lengthy orgy scene on the 2nd of 3 discs. During this orgy, Sandra Romain, without fuss or fury calmly inserted her entire hand inside Kylie Ireland's pussy. She went clear up to her wrist and pumped several hundred times. Also in that scene, Ariana Jollee attempts to self fist her ass. She is mostly successful. PEOPLE, WE HAVE TWO OFFICIAL FIST SIGHTINGS IN A ADULT RELEASE IN AMERICA IN 2006!
No wonder the glaciers are melting! Satan is rising from the depths of hell to punish us all...or perhaps VP Gore is correct.
Sandra also attempted to get both hands inside Kylie's pussy up the the wrist, but failed ever so slightly. She also attempted to fist Kylie's ass, but her positioning simply wasn't right as she attempted a cross-over-anal-vag double-fist. I would've love to have seen that, but moves like that should only be attempted by the truly experienced fisters (or people who excel at the game Twister).
So my question is this, are we now done with the self regulated fisting taboo? Are there other recent releases or planned future releases that will take advantage of this wonderful, expressive, mystical, ancient art?
Fisting always used to be taboo and rarely made it past the censors, after your description I am suprised that one did! I am sure as the boundaries get pushed it will appear more often
it's not illegal, it can just get you into legal hot water. these mavericks are taking risks. i wish this film were available down under. it would make a great xmas gift.
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 8:17AM
I've always wondered who makes up these rules? Fisting gets you in trouble, but taking 60 loads in the face is ok. I don't mind doing either, but who thinks this up?
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 10:21AM
The reason I got this edition of Corruption instead of waiting for the director's cut is that I couldn't be sure another volume would ever see the light of day. SexZ Pictures, which doesn't seem to be the most hardcore of studios, is really thumbing their noses at the authorities and taking a chance here. I would suggest that it might not be a bad idea to show some support for them by buying it, and let the gov't know that a prosecution wouldn't be very popular.
Fisting up to the wrist in US porn? I won't believe it until I see it! I bought some euro release title that was supposed to have fisting, but it was only 4 fingers, so far up that to some idiots would pass this as fisting. That is NOT fisting.
I'd love to see fisting in american porn titles. Bring on the doubal vaginal and triple anal fisting! Germany has this, why can't we?!
You know our country is screwed up when we can do 100 man cream pies and lots of rough sex with slapping, choking and gagging, but fisting is so bad...I don't get it.
So, back in the day why did they decide to have a self imposed fisting ban? Any particular reason?
I'm wonder..what american porn stars have been fisted? Either for a euro movie or offscreen? I'm sure there has been a lot of them. I think I read that pamela loved anal fisting. I know she's a european star though.
Can Sandra Romain be fisted? I'd like to see that. If we're going to do fisting in american porn I have one rule. ONLY women should be doing the fisting! Seeing some guy's hairy nasty...arm is a turn-off.
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married_lucky Deactivated User
202 Posts 11/06
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 11:59AM
Fisting to me just seem incredibly stupid, dumb, pointless as in not a turn on at all.
On the other hand(no pun intented) a like DPP, I guess I am turn on more by sex act that involve sex organs.
As far as it's legality...you can be certain if they bring you up on charges and the videos are shown to 12 jurors. the producers are going down... It's a slam-dunk for the prosecution.
Just like in here they have moderators that lock you up and can shut you down if you go to far. Everyone that participates here finds that an acceptable consequence of breaking establish rules.
I see no reason the larger community shouldn't use that type of system of moderating they use here. And if stated rules are violated then deal out the punishment.
Edited by - married_lucky on 12/23/2006 12:00:45 PM
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 1:46PM
The only fisting prosecution I can remember was against Seymore Butts for Tampa Tushy Fest. It was anything but a slam dunk, with Seymore walking away from the charges, but the law remained ambiguous. There are a lot of things in porn that I don't find natural or sexual, but fisting isn't one of them. I think a lot of people gravitate to extreme penetration naturally, and it's very popular amongst the gay population, which is probably why society wants to punish its adherents.
If multiple fisting videos are are released in the same communnity from multiple stores then it would be legal. There is no law against it only that it can't be rare, so make it common.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 2:34PM
The fly in your ointment here is that the community can deem it obscene, and according to the Supreme Court, that would make it so. Otherwise, by your suggestion, production companies and distributors could just flood a market they want to invade, thereby making it legal. I think that would only result in a lot of people finding themselves in hot water. More money for lawyers. More fresh meat for prisons.
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 2:48PM
Beautiful!
How about..
Come on let's fist again like we did last summer Yeah, let's fist again like we did last rear Do you remember when things were really cummin' Yeah, let's fist again, fistin' time is here
Fisting cannot be deemed obscene in the community if enough people are buying and selling it in that community. Even if it were scat or golden showers doesn't matter if 1000 people hate it, it matters if 1000 people love it. The law is about community standards. If you can show a lot of different stores carrying fisting and records of sales to several members of the community it is LEGAL.
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Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Dec 23 2006 : 7:02PM
What evidence do you require. It only takes one zealous District Attorney and 12 jurors that agree with his position to convict someone of obscenity. Sales numbers are irrelevant.
Since all you can do is speculate how a jury would rule, I will introduce evidence to support my argument with a REAL jury decision not a guess of what may or may not have happened or will. Utah is considered a very conservative state. So there was a obscenity trial in Provo, UT in 2000.
Here I'll qoute from wiki (In 2000 a jury in Provo, UT found Larry Peterman not guilty on obscenity charges, as the defense showed that residents of the town were disproportionately large consumers of the very materials Peterman was selling. ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscenity#Recent_obscenity_cases_in_the_US
Now certainly if adult companies had a market for fisting they wouldn't want to start in Utah. Their best bet would be to start in San Francisco. Its all about baby steps since fisting hasn't been common in the US.
I think the first, and untill recently the only fisting I saw in a movie, was in "The Candy Stripers". I thought it was hot as hell seeing one gorgeous women with half her arm up the pussy of another gorgeous woman. Unfortunately, they edited it out of future releases. Like someone said earlier, I can't believe fisting is considered obsene, with all the other hardcore stuff they show now. I guess it's the same as in mainstrean movies being able to show the most violent shit on earth, but hardcore sex scenes with penatration are obscene. It's a screwed up, backward society we live in I guess!
I would think that the smart thing to do regarding fisting would be to release these films when it's not an election year. It seems like politicians like to pick on stuff that is difficult to defend when they're trying to get elected ("I'm going to clean up this town.)
I honestly think no one really cares whether the cases brought forth are won or lost. What matters is that an effort was made and someone won an election. It doesn't matter if the case drags on. If I recall, the prosecutor who got Seymore's case didn't even want it dropped in their lap. If I remember correctly, Seymore was fined $1000 for being a public nuisance.
Kylie and Bridgette also did anal fisting in another Seymore movie, but I don't think any charges were brought against them for that one. I think there are edited and unedited versions of it out there.
Personally, if Mapplethorpe's fisting photos can considered art why not porn? I've seen definitions of porn as being failed art. I don't know if I agree with that, but I would say that if in one context, fisting is legal, why not in another context?
A lot of these accusations settle out of court, but maybe if someone with money and balls were to take it to trial, then maybe we could see just how ludicrous it is to attempt to define obscenity.
I think what constitutes obscenity in the typical person has changed over the years. I think as a culture porn is acknowledged as a viable industry. Personally, I'm bothered more by the Girls Gone Wild ads on Spike than by anything else. I think porn has it's place, and it's not in the family living room. While not explicit, GGW videos condone behavior that I don't want my daughter participating in. Is it any suprise that we have Britney Spear's running around without panties and Lindsey Lohan in rehab? As a culture of consumers we live in a tabloid addicted society. And if you're a shitty parent to begin with, TV is no help.
Getting back to fisting, I have no problem with it as long as the participants are willing and attracitve. I would like to see one blatant fisting video brought to trial and win because it's impossible to define obscentity. Perhaps this should be a European video imported into the US. Then it would seem like the US is enforcing its moral hangups on the world yet again. This would once and for all end silly prosecutions for political gain. This country was founded by gun wielding sexually repressed puritans and we live in a world shaped by that.
Edited by - MFD on 2/5/2007 12:01:19 PM
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_swede_ Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 5 2007 : 1:13PM
vaginal fisting YAY!
Anal fisting, ouch
I fucking love the way Sandra Romain handles pussies, she seems so comfortable with sticking her hand up other girls. She fucks other girls like a man