i seems like people that have that reaction are responding to "flaming homosexuality, its threatening to them. i wonder what would happen if you told him now that he has known you for awhile and obviously never suspected you were anything other than straight? maybe (just maybe) it would change his perspective a little.

-lunacy- i know that really stings, ive been on the receiving end of things like that too.

i seems like people that have that reaction are responding to "flaming homosexuality, its threatening to them. i wonder what would happen if you told him now that he has known you for awhile and obviously never suspected you were anything other than straight? maybe (just maybe) it would change his perspective a little.

-lunacy- i know that really stings, ive been on the receiving end of things like that too.

i seems like people that have that reaction are responding to "flaming homosexuality, its threatening to them. i wonder what would happen if you told him now that he has known you for awhile and obviously never suspected you were anything other than straight? maybe (just maybe) it would change his perspective a little.

-lunacy- i know that really stings, i've been on the receiving end of things like that too.

i seems like people that have that reaction are responding to "flaming homosexuality, it's threatening to them. i wonder what would happen if you told him now that he has known you for awhile and obviously never suspected you were anything other than straight? maybe (just maybe) it would change his perspective a little.

-lunacy-

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You think you have it rough if you're gay, black people have to turn white at times in order to fit in.

Racism still exist today and what happened eons ago with slavery, it's something that still has not subsided in afro-american minds. I feel for them honestly. I feel, they are the bunch that has it more worse. :(

Sorry if this reply is offtopic..but I just wanted to bring something up joeblow69 that is quite another problem in society. :)

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And, btw, I think that in some ways it is easier being black than gay. At least if you are black, everything is out in the open. You don't have to "come out" black to people.

Plus, I think that you will be hard pressed to find people who will admit to being racist or who think that being racist is ok, but homophobes, as I mentioned earlier, are still quite rampant.

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Mean_Lady: So where you from?
Evil_Rip: Originally from San Diego. *wink* How could you tell?
Mean_lady: Oh.

then they usually drop the subject. I know what they meant. They Know I know what they meant, but i dont answer.

Anyways back to your original question.
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I don't think any gay Guy at my work place would want to come out.
boss is a racist and a man-hater. So whats the worse thing you could be to her? A nonWhite Gay man. Everyone thinks a person in our lab is 'gay' and the boss already doesn't like him. (no not me.. the bosses they love me..but hopefully never in that way!)

Evil_RIP

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it's really sad that you feel you can't be yourself at work - especially when you have such a likeable self i don't think any intelligent, open-minded person would still view the "nice guy" as a nice guy if they knew that he's a bigot. but of course i understand you have a job at stake and can't afford to risk that. and you can't assume that people are intelligent or open-minded...

evil - would it be better if they came out and said, "where does your color come from?" ;)

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I have people who ask me all the time, "So, where are you from originally?" "Denver," I reply. "Oh, so you were born here?" "Yes, as were my parents and grandparents." The smart ass in me wants to ask "so what's your ethnic background?" "German and Irish." "Oh, so did your family come over after the Nazis or when that potato thing was going on?"

I think it's far worse to be gay than to be an ethnic minority, since racial intolerance has been challenged a lot longer than sexual orientation and since homosexuality is unacceptable in the minds of a lot of people. It's a shame, but both of those bigotries will pass with time, I'm sure.

- Saki

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I respectfully disagree with some of you about the relative ease of either race or sexual preference. Let's be honest here, a bigot is a bigot-regardless of who he/she/it directs their ignorance towards. I don't associate with bigots-as soon as someone starts telling me how much he "hates" ____________, I simply can't have any respect for them. I've worked in area's that had a lot of gays, a lot of blacks, and other "races", so I've dealt with various people over the years and have found that all of us seem to have similar needs/wants/desires (more or less).

Joe, I've been in similar situations before. The person would tell me how much they hate gays-and I'd ask why. After a lengthy discussion, it usually seemed routed in not having any information outside TV/Movies and other mass market media. Perhaps they changed a bit, perhaps they then assumed I was gay, whatever. I've had similar experiences with people who hated black folks.

I've worked on projects with people of all races, preferences and such and have yet to see significant differences (outside what they want in the orifice of their choice, etc.) as well. The army was a good example of integration for me too.

If someone asks me "what race" I am, online in particular, I generally answer "Human". The answer has sparked a number of interesting conversations and those that thought I was being a wise guy can go take a walk.

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Saki Do you ever get the, "Wow your english is so good."
Sometimes I feel like saying, "Yours isn't too bad either, with a little practice you'll get it."

Houston, once the aliens arrive, we'll all be human race.

JoeBlow,
how did we get side tracked from your topic?
It sucks when you can't be yourself anywhere.

Evil_RIP

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my mom has always tried to impress upon me how difficult it was to be a woman in "her day". that women could only be teachers or secretaries. while i've tried to sympathize, i know that my estrogen count has helped me in my career rather than hurt me. sure i faced some sexism, but that really paled in comparison to the power of the boobs ;)

ok back to topic...

joeblow - do you think you'll ever move to a more "liberal" area?

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But, quite frankly, the job I have now is a high paying cake walk, and I don't really want to walk away from it.

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