If the LA jizz industry doesn't manage to act of it's own volition to minimize risks, that includes banning creampies and using condoms for high risk acts like e.g. DAPs, you will soon face the total OSHA-CAL bill which makes porn shooting the way you know it impossible.
Then you have only European porn left anyway for the next months until the industry recollects in another state. Good for the European talents, bad for...
You know what's funny, it won't help at all, the regs are already there people are just waiting for the executionerRead twice, I've already given up on the 'pornfans'.
And thanks, it feels good if people take for granted that I have noble intentions
Hey folks I've been told by a very reliable source that Ariana won't be replying to the thread anymore but that she'll do her best to answer questions emailed to her and if you don't know it the address is ArianaJolleexxx@aol.com. I've been told you have raised some valid questions so if you're cool in emailing and aren't an ass asking your questions you might get some of those answers you've been clamoring for!!
I can't blame her. I mean she does her best making this special movie and all she gets is bullshit from some people here. Very sad.
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DIAMOND DOG Deactivated User
"Puff Daddy is crap." - Keith Richards 320 Posts 7/04
Posted - Oct 8 2004 : 5:28PM
I just re-read the latter part of the thread, including my own post, and I realize I may have came off a bit abrasive. It really wasn't my intention, but sometimes these things just seem to take on a life of there own. I thought some of the things said were just plain silly, and I still feel that way, so I'm not going to edit my post since the discussion was swayed by others to where it got and I believe I made some valid points.
As far as someone doing a 65 guy creampie -- then talking about safety or precautions they took in the same sentence -- is absolutely mind boggling to me, and this will not change.
But if the "ass" Bono was referring to was in my direction, I totally accept it because I could have been a little more delicate in expressing my views. I have no intentions of E-mailing her, so she mustn't worry.
And Ramsey, it was only one person (Jag) who said something -- which wasn't even that bad -- that ignited Arianna. She blasted back, and in the process said some things that other people (myself included) thought were unreasonable.
Again, my apologies to Arianna and The Mods( just in case I offended them too )
C'mon, I do think Ariana is strong enough to give a fuck about the concerns raised here, if that's a good or a bad thing, I don't know. What I do know however is that this thread has shown that some people really do care and not just cheer with the crowd. yeah creampies, and a hundred MORE!
It is high risk. It is the wrong timing. And it is at the border of common sense.
But I would never blame her. I blame the producers behind this. They are best off with just shutting up, coz the well's will run dry too soon in here. (...and a sore ass is no fun either.)
Again XRay I was told this by her and I urge everyone again, any questions you have please email her, ask nicely and chances are you might get a response. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone understand that. It's just a general statment and actually one that makes total sense. If you ask nicely then chances of a successful response increase dramatically.
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DIAMOND DOG Deactivated User
"Puff Daddy is crap." - Keith Richards 320 Posts 7/04
Posted - Oct 8 2004 : 6:19PM
Just out of curiosity, what would be some of the questions someone might ask? I thought the bulk of what she would be offended by was accusations of a 65 guy creampie being unsafe regardless of whatever health precautions were taken beforehand.
Are these questions pertaining to actual testing facilities, the guys involved and where they come from, or things of that nature?
Again, I'm not going to write her, I was just curious about what would/could be asked.
I think you answered your own post. Does Ariana have to answer such personal questions right here for anyone to see or can she decide it's better for any curious to email her and then the matter can be handled privately. Again I stress she owes us nothing in this matter but she intimated to me that if one was still curious they could email her and then things could progress. I think this thread has run it's course and I don't think I'll post in it anymore as well.
Hey bono-ONE, I understand that perfectly. With my last post I just wanted to point out that she has proven to be a 'mentally strong woman' we do not need to feel too concerned about. BTW, I do not think any futher discussion about how to avoid dangers hurts. Even if it comes down to such simple questions if creampie gangbangs should be abandoned or not. Of course I am aware of the fact that we have some very pro creampie lovers in this community who would rather close eyes and ears but participate in such a discussion with reasonable arguments.We have the same quality testing facilities and laboratories in Europe as in the States. So PCR DNA ,p24, elisa, Westernblot everything is possible!
You raise a key question with "the guys involved", as everybody should know by now the best approach to minimize the diganositc gap is regular monthly testing. So it's already questionable why an American company shoots out of the country and doesn't use AIM tested male talent with a known history for their creampie experiment. Of coz we have European performers with long histories you can trust! But who was used in this shoot? If producers contact foreign agencies and announce their upcoming shot so some more unkown performers can do a quick PCR DNA for their creampie gangbang pleasure the risks for all talents involved start to increase the same amout as the idea of risk minimization starts to get silly.
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DIAMOND DOG Deactivated User
"Puff Daddy is crap." - Keith Richards 320 Posts 7/04
Posted - Oct 8 2004 : 7:07PM
Interesting thoughts X-Ray.
I was wondering about how the producers went about casting. I know girls have used fans before, or just guys off the street that wanted to be in it. If I remember correctly, Lisa Sparxxx and Felecia Foxx did this for a BlowJob/Bukkakee thing recently. I was wondering if that was the case for this, or if they did like you said and started contacting agencies to acquire reputable (or possibly non-reputable) talent.
I don't feel like corresponding with Ms. Joliee, but I would be curious to know about these things.
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whooya Deactivated User
33 Posts 10/04
Posted - Oct 8 2004 : 8:14PM
This may be slightly off topic but i was wondering if you have to have a work visa to do theses shoots overseas. One of the main problems TT Boy may face in the lara lawsuit will be if she was here legally. We've all seen the interview where she says that someone else paid for her plane ticket to come here. WE've also all seen the repotrts of her 'tuning tricks' in that now infamous van nuys hotel room. Isn't it a felony to transport someone across international borders for the purpose of prostitution. And if she did not have a legal work visa then it does not matter if she was an 'employee' or an 'independant contractor". TT BOy could be faced with hiring an illegal alien, who, during the course of her 'work' contracted a deadly disease. If someone contracts a deadly disease during the commision of a crime, there could be severe penalties I would think. But only time will tell.
Wasn't Ashley LOng just recently denied entry to the u.s. because she did not have the proper work visa.
Does anyone here actually know about the types of visas needed to work overseas? When things like this get so much publicity it would not be too difficult for some government hack to report something to the i.r.s.(that is for americans who travel overseas).
Regarding the lisa sparxx gangbang in poland--city officials there have already put the event organizers on notice that they do not think this is legal.(procuring women for prostitution). I'd have to be in lisa's shoes in POland if this event gets busted and she does not have tha proper working papers. I hope she gets some good advice and has all of the legal things she needs in order.
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DenverDon Benevolent
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Posted - Oct 8 2004 : 8:46PM
This has wandered, run close to the line, and there has been advice that future questions will be answered by email if there are any.