Ashley Blue

And the question is about trying to find out how low she will go...would'ya do this ....or would'ya do that... nice to see Ashley still has a line that she won't cross.

Maybe in the next White Trash Whore all the guys will have on turbans, long pajamas, and sandals.

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i don't find her comments offensive at all.

I've heard people say I hate Christians, lots of times. including in pop culture.

If you've ever though "i'm sick of this muslim crap", after looking at 4 headlines of chaos in the middle east, does that make you a hate monger?

cool clip. hot bitch.

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"I hate Muslims, I fucking hate Muslims."

Sounds pretty straightforward and bigoted to me. Wait, let me check Webster's. (Or Wikipedia if that's your pleasure.)

Yep, that qualifies as a bigot.

Sure, she's entitled to her opinions and personal predelictions, but that doesn't change the facts. Hell, she wasn't even asked about Muslims. She was asked if she'd fuck an Al Queda terrorist. She went off on the all encompassing Muslim hate rant on her own.

This doesn't technically qualify as racist , because racist and racism implies action and the power to effect people or things based upon race, that Ashley Blue in her capacity as a porn star, doesn't really have. But most people don't make the distinction between bigot and racist, and use them interchangeably. And incorrectly.

She only controls who she will and won't fuck, which is her right and a personal choice. Even if it is based in a bigoted world view.

BSD

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Edited by - Fishface on 1/3/2007 9:33:36 PM

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And if you've seen much of Ashley's work product, you'll know that her schtick is basically to say whatever ridiculous, foul, exaggerated, outrageous thing that pops into her head at any given time, like a Cabbage Patch doll with Tourette's Syndrome.

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Every race on the planet has members who follow the islamic faith.

I personally think anybody who hates a billion muslims because of the actions of some of them is as silly as the muslims who hate all americans becuase of the actions of some of them.

Edited by - wheat on 1/3/2007 10:27:23 PM

Edited by - wheat on 1/3/2007 10:28:24 PM

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I really don't give a rat's ass about Ashley Blue's opinion regarding anything. But, you're only kidding yourself if you think that she was anything less that 100% serious when she made that comment. The retards in the audience were 100% serious when they applauded her comment.

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If Ashley Blue made her comments in 1885, when Huckleberry Finn was written....

...or some shit like that, then you have to ask:

What if, in 1885 Ashley blue would be fucking on stage big, buck, black, freed slaves, six at a time?

I guess...she should have just said...."Whatever ...I'll fuck anyone KKK, muslim terrorist, whatever you guys can think of...although I don't know how much more you would like to see... I have been humiliated and debased in almost every possible combination"

...but the woman tried to hold onto a little of what dignity she has left at the expense of muslims terrorist...and you think she's a racist??

Wake-up.

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Methinks that you are looking for something that isn't there.

"The time has come for someone to put his foot down....and that foot is me."

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Edited by - robbie on 2/2/2007 10:52:44 AM

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Just like how no christian could ever join an army as "thou shall not kill" ;)

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It was a stupid question that illicited a stupid response.

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"i hate insert group of people here " follow by applause has never really sat well with my conscience.

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She should just keep her fist in her mouth.. or better yet, retire.

Edited by - kingclutch on 1/4/2007 3:35:09 PM

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It's also someone representing an interpretation of Islam under which Ashley, if she were to reside in a country such as pre-invasion Afghanistan or Iran, could and probably would be legally submitted to public flogging or even put to death.

'Prostitutes' - and there is little doubt that being a porn star would fall under most Muslims' definition of that term - have been publicly executed in Iran.

If a journalistic remark about a beauty pageant in Nigeria - an oasis of liberty in comparison with Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan - or a cartoon in Denmark are enough to result in mob killings in Muslim countries, I'm not surprised that a porn star isn't thrilled about Muslims.

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And the taliban or whatever you want to call them are not anti-america because of their religion. maybe they are anti-america because they have seen what usa did in vietnam, guantanamo, abu ghraib, el salvador, panama, haiti the list goes on forever. And according to a European survey 73% of Europeans thought usa was the greatest threat to world peace. You can call people terrorists all you want but its really a question of semantics and right now according to the world usa is the terrorist.

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I just don't understand people trying to think muslims are any different to any other religion.

from my outsiders POV bush and his army are just a bunch of religious zealots forcing their views on the word the same as al qaeda is. The only difference is they have enough money and power to sway other countries into looking away or joining in.

neither obey the conventions of war, neither cares about meeting the other half way and both live in a ridiculous black and white world where you are always right and the other guy is always wrong.

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Edited by - wheat on 1/5/2007 2:07:02 AM

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"The time has come for someone to put his foot down....and that foot is me."

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As I said above, the whole thing is a goof. She attributes her oral sex prowess to "bulimia. Years and years of bulimia." She says "my knees are calloused." She says her favorite word is "bukkake." When asked where porn is going to go next, she speculates that "people will start cutting each other and fucking the open wounds." (This, too, is met with applause.)

It goes on for 45 minutes in this fashion before the comment about muslims is made. Whatever nimrod that posted the clip to Youtube had to sit through all of that, and had to have recognized the overall farcical tone of the piece, but nonetheless chose to post the clip without any hint of the context, as if she was being interviewed by fucking Larry King on CNN or something.

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Besides, she didn't answer the question directly. She was asked about legitimate terrorists and she answered about an entire religion - obviously she is not a superpower, brain-wise.

bigot - yes!
Rascist - not necessarily, but possibly
ignorant - definitely!

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"The time has come for someone to put his foot down....and that foot is me."

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The remarks about the consequences of sharia law for prostitutes (and those considered 'prostitutes') aren't hypothetical:

Under Islamic law –that is, the Shari'a– Iran's punishment for prostitution has been severe. On 3 July 1980, two women accused of prostitution were buried up to their necks and then stoned to death. In a similar case in 1997, three women were stoned to death in public after a court found them guilty of adultery and prostitution under Iran's Islamic law.[13]

Iran also has prosecuted organizers of prostitution rings. In 1996, a woman and her husband were charged with organizing corrupt gatherings involving prostitution. They were executed a year later."

Nor is it limited to prostitutes, even a rape victim can be sentenced to death and executed. From BBC News:

"A television documentary team has pieced together details surrounding the case of a 16-year-old girl, executed two years ago in Iran. On 15 August, 2004, Atefah Sahaaleh was hanged in a public square in the Iranian city of Neka. Her death sentence was imposed for "crimes against chastity".

The Taliban imposed a regime of terror in Afghanistan with gross discrimination of women and corporeal punishment for minor offences, and blew up centuries-old Buddhist statues expressly and explicitly in the name of Islam .

I don't think the Taliban have ever issued any statement whatsoever on Vietnam, El Salvador, Panama or Haiti, correct me if I'm wrong. All of the above are 'infidel' countries anyway which tend to get little support from the Muslim world.

Anyway, my point is not that Muslims are bad, it was and remains that countries which practice the full range of Islamic law (such as Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran) could legally kill her in the name of Islam. Asking somebody in the sex industry to like Islam (and by extension, those who support and practice it, i.e. Muslims) is like asking a Jew to like national socialism (or those who supported and practiced it).

(Before somebody accuses me of stating that Muslims are like Nazis, please note that the above is an analogy).

Edited by - eduardo911 on 1/5/2007 9:19:20 AM

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I will say that Ashley Blue seems to be a pretty bright bulb… I don't know of too many adult actresses or actors referencing Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer in an interview, which she did…

and Patel is absolutely correct re: the format of the show (although the guy asking the question is Sal the Stockbroker, one of the show troglodytes who is notorious for his racism). Context is EVERYTHING! Repeat that ad nauseum before opining about anything on Youtube or anywhere else on the netweb.

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I consider my self a fairly tolerant person, and by tolerant I mean Mr Garrison's description in South Park. Being Tolerant means putting up with something, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.
I do not agree with what any bigot or racist says, but in the land of free speech I will defend their right to say it to the death.

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This thing between Muslims and the rest of the world is coming to a head. It isn't just between America and the Muslim world. India, Russia, China, and almost every nation that has a large Muslim population has had to deal with suicide bombers and constant terrorist attacks aimed at civilians, not just military targets.

At some point in time all these open minded folks defending Muslims are going to have to decide whether or not they are for a Muslim Government or Democratic government. The two don't seem able to come to a compromise.

The religion of Islam is inherently violent, much like Judaism. Both relgions put a particular people as the central people of God and command them to go against all other people who threaten them. It is only Democracy and the lack of military power that has tempered both religions from empire building.

Christianity and Buddhism are the two most peaceful religions on the planet. Christians have been violent, but not because Jesus Christ taught them to do so. The Buddha also abhorred violence, and did not encourage if of his followers. The same cannot be said of Jewish and Islamic leaders of the past and present. Moses and King David were both empire builder, warrior kings. And Mohammed, the primary prophet of Islam, encourated conversion by the sword and intolerance towards the spread of other faiths.

It is pretty ludicrous of liberal minded Americans to assume Islam is like other religions. It is not. It is not a peaceful philosophy, though you can find passages to promote peace in it, just as you can find passages to promote violence. It is important that people stand for Democracy and not Islamic rule. Islamic rule is for the birds. It threatens to a force of fascism as profound as communism.

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Hi all, I'm LOVING the forum, wish I joined earlier.

Wish me luck at the awards!!

Love you all

Riley

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