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nudity
Deactivated User

168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 6 2003 : 10:58PM
Subway Innovative ProdActions is a German company that releases very hard material. I just watched "Faust-Fix Spezial" which is nr. 6 of the Avantgarde Extreme label. Wow! Intense fisting, big toys, inflatable butt plugs, bondage, nipple clamps (mouse traps!), pussy clamps, hot wax etc. I was particularly impressed by the anal fisting scene, which was much harder and longer than a comparable Videorama or DBM scene.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 7 2003 : 5:48AM
These guys are indeed pretty sick but in a good way. I once saw a girl take a double fist up her ass. I think they release the most extreme movies around. I think they also used the name Kit Kat Club.
Gabriel Nine
Senior Member

Firecracker
1273 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jun 7 2003 : 7:43AM
I've never risked buying one of these titles, but I believe they are made in and around the Berlin fetish and dance music scene and the infamous Kit Kat Club, as Ramsey mentions. This venue actually merits a mention in the Lonely Planet guide book to the city. They do the Avantgarde Extrem, Experiment: Ausgeliefert Sein! and Sex Trance Bizarre series.

AFAIK these movies feature essentially amateur perfomers, though I don't know for sure - it does tend to show that wilder things happen in real life than is usually shown in porn. Just a perception - I'd be interested to know more about these movies and the people who make them and perform in them.

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 6/7/2003 7:44:41 AM

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jun 7 2003 : 8:49AM
I've seen a couple of these and, as you say Gabriel, they are more amateurish both in terms of performers, set-up and lighting etc.

It is quite hard to compare this stuff to DBM/Videorama which is a lot more formulaic and less 'real' in a way.

I found these Avantgarde fims a bit like Bondage/S&M stuff inasmuch as I kept thinking 'for gods sake, get on with it' for much of the tape

SNP.

PS: I won't deny though that these films had a certain attraction and they are very hard-core.

Gabriel Nine
Senior Member

Firecracker
1273 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jun 7 2003 : 12:25PM
Sir Noel, I saw some vidcaps on the HWV Media website, and these movies looked like they were done with either a hidden camera or some kind of fish-eye lens - is this the general form, or are they "properly" shot?

One thing I should note is that I gather some of their movies do feature scat as well as the serious subject matter already mentioned, so UK fans should be particularly careful if ordering from EroDVD for example.

 
Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jun 7 2003 : 1:30PM
I've seen two of these films (can't remember the particular numbers or titles) and one of them was filmed normally (and yes it did involve some scat) whilst the other involved, not so much a fish eye lens, as a round baffle to give the telescope/binoculars look.

Both films were rather dingy, poorly lit and slow moving but in their defence the people looked genuinely involved an excited by the acts they were doing and there was a genuine excitement watching them as you felt you couldn't predict what would happen next (a feeling I get all too rarely from porn nowadays).

SNP.

nudity
Deactivated User

168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 8 2003 : 2:40PM
This Avantgarde Extreme DVD is the most interesting (NOT the best) porn I have seen in a very long time. And I must admit it is somewhat unsettling - in a positive way.

It offers you a glimpse into the world of the fetish/bondage/S&M club scene. Suddenly you realise how boring your life is. Better quit your job, sell your house, take the train to Berlin, join the Kit Kat Club, where the dungeons are full of pretty girls craving for endless anal fistings..... Ahhhh, the temptation....

DBM and Videorama? Artsy fartsy nonsense. Debora Coeur? Colette Sigma? Daniella Rush? Sorry, I can't remember...

waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 8 2003 : 4:23PM
hiho,

i've also seen a few Avantgarde Extreme movies, since i hoped the ugly simon thaur and his retarded friends wouldn't be appear in the film.

it's really hard content and sometimes they have nice girls in it but overall they are crap in my opinion. i like s/m related movies but the male performers in all Subway Productions are completly weird in my eyes.

cheers, waterproof

nudity
Deactivated User

168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 10 2003 : 4:08PM
Judging from the box-covers, most (9 out of 10) Subway productions are either too weird for me or have scat (no thanks) or are recordings of live sex shows at the Kit Kat Club.

I bought this title for the energetic fisting and the big toys, and I was not disappointed. I don't care much for bondage/S&M, but the overall dark atmosphere was okay.

I would be interested in similar DVD material. Your recommendations are welcome.

waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 11 2003 : 1:18AM
nudity,

it was also the most energetic fisting scene i've ever seen, nothing comparable to it at the moment, so there are no other recommendations...

anyway. you can take a look to the debora lineup of movies (dbm), overall i would say they are great too but less intensive. (debora is one of my favorites :) you can also take a look to the videorama movie "extrem pervers" released in maximum perversum line, great fisting too with some pissing stuff, really hot.


cheers, waterproof

Jim-A
Member

New England
109 Posts
1/01
Posted - Jun 11 2003 : 10:51AM
Is there a website we can go to to by this stuff?
waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 10:25AM
videorama released that movie in 1997 afair and again on dvd
last year but it looks like it's discontinued now.

maybe it is available here:

Extrem Pervers

cheers, waterproof

shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 11:09AM
Were those 2 (big) studs fists or 2 tiny girls fists?
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 11:43AM
It was a guy who was doing the fisting and he was pretty rough. When he pulled out he created the mother of all gapes!
shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 11:48AM
Do you remember what film exactly it was?

Thank you so much!

 
waterproof
Member

452 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 2:06PM
shameless,

most movies in the avantgarde extreme series are available at erodvd.nl

i wish they had their girls together with more attractive men (i'm not into men but thaur and friends are really ugly ones *shudder*)

cheers, waterproof

shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 13 2003 : 2:17PM
Thanks, but if I order 1 I want the dvd with the two rough studs fists in together in that girls ass. This I need to know in which film exactly the scene ramsey talks about is.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 4:41AM
I will have to check my archive shameless but that could take days but it's fucking huge, also because I got rid of all of my tapes, only DVD for me now. I saw this movie like three years ago or something.
Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 4:45AM
Hello Ramsey!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 4:53AM
Hey Tom. So are you gonna include some fisting in your Evolution Erotica movies ala Avantgarde Extreme? ;-)
Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 5:08AM
Ramsey, if you can help me find a girl that can take two
fists in her ass, I will ABSOLUTELY shoot it!
Problem is, there ain't a lot of girls here in Cali who are up for that sort of thing.

Hopefully, I will be taking a trip to Europe before the
summer ends and perhaps I'll find a few willing participants there!!

Bottom line: You fans here on ADT tell me what you want, and I'll do my best to make it happen!!!

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 14 2003 : 6:25AM
You're right, they can't even handle one first up their ass, not counting The Amazing Ty of course. Candy Apples could also pull it off I think.
Germany has the most deparved and perverted performers, this whole Avantgarde Extreme stuff is proof of that.

the_hustler
Member

United Kingdom
6 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 11:52PM
For people in the UK , R18 doesnt include any extreme material such as fisting , pissing , bdsm etc etc ....BUT there are a few online sites which are usually Dutch based who have distibution sites within the UK so customs are not a problem. They deliver in 4-10 days and some sites give you the option to have it delivered in the original casing or not.

Is fisting and pissing allowed in the US ?? If so it would be nice to get hold of some material , because as said earlier the releases on Maximum Perversion ,Teeny Excesse & Faust Fucker etc etc , well the acting is somewhat to be desired , but as we say in the UK beggars cannot be choosers so i buy what is available....

nudity
Deactivated User

168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 1:43AM
He, Ramsey!

Dude, it is really cool that you have spent the last three weeks sorting out your porn archive, and for no other reason than to inform us in which Avantgarde Extreme movie the double anal fisting takes place.

Now don't be shy and tell us the @#$*&% title.

RonK All-Star Supporter
Big Double Everything Fan

Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat
3713 Posts
9/01
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 2:22AM
Ramsey,

Is the female doing the double anal fisting cute or unattractive? I can go for a cute babe getting a serious double fist. Not so sure about an unattractive female receiving a daf.

Ron

 
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 3:58AM
Sorry for the delay, I will e-mail the title tonite (with some luck).
She was not very beautiful from what I remember but she was also not very unattractive.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 11:37AM
Check this, the movie is called "Fist Extreme" but I'm not sure which Avantgarde Extreme number that is.

Good luck hunting.

shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 1:22PM
Thanks a lot Ramsey! I hope the girl does it for me, though she might not be the most beautiful. I can hardly wait to see that guys 2 fists fuck her ass...

Luckily I have a good Russian friend similarly into porn who lives in Germany. So I hope to get this film quite soon.

nudity
Deactivated User

168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 1:48PM
Thank you, Ramsey!

On the French label Lucy there is a DVD "Triple Fist Anal". The boxcover indeed shows two cute girls inserting three hands into an orifice. Great? Not really, on closer inspection the fistee is probably a guy...

I would consider that a dirty trick by the DVD company: selecting boxcover shots that are clear (three fists) and vague (the fistee) at the same time, just so that the potential buyer will assume a WOMAN is triple fisted anally.

cocoom
Member

Spain
12 Posts
5/03
Posted - Mar 7 2005 : 6:27AM
Hello from Spain,

I like all series of Subway productions, also Lupus Pictures and Rigis East. I have many videos in Divx format
If you want to trade this videos with me os a DVD-R media, please write me to cocoom@wanadoo.es and i send you my list of films

Thanks

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 7 2005 : 9:12AM
cocoom,

Further down in the forum there is a trading section. Use the International Trading section to arrange for trading your movies rather than ressurecting a thread that is getting close to 1 year old.

Thanks.

... and welcome to the forum.

DenverDon <<<<[[[[

arthur
Deactivated User

165 Posts
9/04
Posted - Mar 7 2005 : 4:33PM
I have to agree that some of these extreme productions have some of the ugliest people on the planet in them. Aren't there any handsome men or women in Germany prepared to do these sorts of things?



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