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Den Member 911 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:26AM Best Gonzo Series =========================================================== Azz Fest Video Team College Invasion Shane's World Studios Double Dip'Er LéWood Productions Double Parked DVSX Flesh Hunter Jules Jordan Gangbang Auditions Diabolic Video Productions Hellcats Joey Silvera Jack's Playground Digital Playground Service Animals Joey Silvera Seymore Butts Seymore Butts Shane's World Shane's World Un-Natural Sex Diabolic Video Productions Who's Your Daddy? Zero Tolerance Entertainment =========================================================== [/code] First congrats to the winner, Jack's Playground - Digital Playground. I am making some changes on my site and I am going to add 2 new categories, Gonzo and Reality. Should Jack's Playground, College Invasion and Shane's World be Reality? It seems to me that all the others are flat out sex action and these 3 are combination of sex and 'R' I guess I don't understand the term Gonzo? Your thoughts please. Den [Link]
dac David Aaron Clark Just another WKW wannabe 574 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 9:12AM I think you of all people understand gonzo quite well, Den -- it's just that quite alot of those claiming to make it these days don't ... was very, very happy to meet you in person, btw. You're shorter in reqal life! (ha ha) I guess I don't understand the term Gonzo? Your thoughts please. Den Click to expand [Link]
Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 1:22PM A film theorist once said: "A genre which encompasses both Ernest Lubtitsch and Jerry Lewis is in trouble." I would like to add: "And has probably very little descriptive value." Edited: Jacks' Playground won? EagleSpirit said: "You people are just tempting me to voice my unsolicited opinion." (Yeah, that does sound like something we are really good at.) Edited by - Walter Burns on 1/13/2005 1:22:45 PM [Link]
bono-ONE All-Star Member SAMCRO 8572 Posts 8/00	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 1:24PM I'm with you Den, it seems odd to group those three in with series which are really flat out balls to the wall sex. [Link]
diegoiglesias69 Member 135 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 1:30PM I think Flesh Hunter is the best....Jules is great director....that's my opinion [Link]

tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 2:30PM This is the only award I think it will take me all year to get over Evil Angel not winning. If you asked me the day before the awards to bet on the two awards that I was sure we would win, I would have said Best Gonzo Series and Best Gonzo Movie. [Link]
dumblonde Senior Member 2352 Posts 7/00	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 3:14PM It looks as if they're lumping everything that isn't a 'feature' together. Even though I often incorrectly use the term 'gonzo' interchangeably with 'all-sex' (it's just easier), even I know the difference, although I'm less clear on the difference between 'reality' and 'gonzo'. AVN failing to make the distinction is inexcusable however, and imo they need to make separate categories. [Link]
Faceblaster Member 390 Posts 5/04	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 3:27PM I thought Gonzo simply meant acknowledging the camera is there. Breaking the fourth wall. Looking or speaking directly to the camera, as opposed to the camera being a "secret" observer. [Link]
2HOT2HANDLE Member 437 Posts 11/04	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 3:32PM tricia_devereaux wrote: This is the only award I think it will take me all year to get over Evil Angel not winning. If you asked me the day before the awards to bet on the two awards that I was sure we would win, I would have said Best Gonzo Series and Best Gonzo Movie. Click to expand I was also convinced Hellcats, Service Animals or Flesh Hunter had great chances to win the award!Although I don't know all the other series competing for this one, those 3 lines are top-quality gonzo series! [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 4:46PM dumblonde wrote: It looks as if they're lumping everything that isn't a 'feature' together. Click to expand Which is why it's even more weird, because they have Best Vignette Movie and Series and Best All-Sex Movie and Series. [Link]
Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 5:08PM dumblonde wrote: It looks as if they're lumping everything that isn't a 'feature' together. Click to expand I agree. Gonzo is also often seen as porn done cheap and nasty by amateurs (who won't use condoms, unlike the caring feature producers). To me gonzo is porn where the camera is part of it. And is recording the crazy (but everyday) life of the person holding it. I think i read somewhere taht John Stagliano thought it would be intersting to have a camera "left" on it's side to film the sex, so the viewer would feel they were watching through the camera. This can, if done well have more artistic merit than features. Buttman and Ben Dover who copied him (as he admits) are definatly Gonzo, MilfHunter, BangBus etc are also Gonzo. Stuff like Shane's World and Mid-night Prowl are more a reality porn. [Link]
Lee O Forearm Trainer mmmmmmm........ after-birth 1193 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 5:18PM So is gonzo about setting things up to look like reality , while reality porn is actually just taping what happens naturally (for the most part) ? [Link]
Grouper Member 106 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 5:27PM tricia_devereaux wrote: dumblonde wrote: It looks as if they're lumping everything that isn't a 'feature' together. Click to expand Which is why it's even more weird, because they have Best Vignette Movie and Series and Best All-Sex Movie and Series. Click to expand Does AVN actually explain how winners are selected? Is there really a "they"? Did the guy making the selections actually see the movies? [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 5:53PM Personally I group Jack's in Gonzo. then group College Invasion and Shane's World in reality. My reasoning is that College Invasion and Shane's World take place in REAL places with some element of uncontrolled environments. Jack's, although real looking, is pretty well planed out and stuff (as far as the location for sex). College Invasion and Shane's World both have sex that don't go down on sets. I do want to add I like Jack's Playground ALOT, but don't think it stands up against anything JJ puts out... The Flesh Hunter series is one DAMN fine series, easily my favorite of all those. Oh, and as for the term 'Gonzo', any time a person behind the camera talks to some one in front of the camera, I say it's Gonzo... Just looking at the camera is borderline, but I leave that in the 'All-Sex' category. Edited by - PL on 1/13/2005 5:55:28 PM [Link]
Lee O Forearm Trainer mmmmmmm........ after-birth 1193 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 6:22PM But girls look at camera in Antonio Adamo and Pierre Woodman features . [Link]

doubler65 Member new york 100 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:12PM i can't believe niether hellcats or service animals won the award. To me they are the 2 top gonzo lines out ther right now. [Link]
TheLoneGunman Member 400 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:49PM Well, Jack's Playground certainly ISN'T in the reality category...each edition is scripted, with actors playing parts. I do think it's gonzo though - gonzo doesn't necessarily have to be unscripted hand-held camera sex. Those other gonzo directors may not write up the dialogue for each scene like Jack's does, but they certainly think up the situations and settings before hand (see any Jules Jordan or Seymore Butts video). [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 13 2005 : 7:58PM Lee O wrote: But girls look at camera in Antonio Adamo and Pierre Woodman features . Click to expand Well if a story line is implemented and they don;t talk to the camera, then it's borderline, but I'd go with Feature.... Jack's is different, it's a mix between Feature (has a story line) and Gonzo (the actors/actresses talk directly to Jack (cameraman)). Edited by - PL on 1/13/2005 8:00:12 PM [Link]

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