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garatonator
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3 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:16AM
Dear Adult Aficionados,
I'm a freelance producer/writer/editor with about 5 years experience in television and a few soft-core produtions, but have never worked in hardcore. Now, I'm in LA again after a one year hiatus from showbiz. I joined this site because I thought that somebody might find this idea interesting, and maybe it could develop into something concrete in time. Ideally I'd like to write and direct something along these lines, so I'd appreciate any info or advice that fans, producers or performers (Sasha?) might know.
The hottest chick (let's call her Ali) I ever stripped naked was in an Ayn Rand phase when I met her, which disgusted me and turned me on at the same time. Ali - a sharp, feisty, Republican, enigmatic, proud, waif-mystery (the list goes on...) brunette: she lived in another state at the time, and we had a few memorable nights in the strangest of places. When I later read the Fountainhead upon her recommendation, I couldn't shake Ali's psyche from my memory. The infamous faux-rape scene between Roark and Dominique burned some strange seductive mark in my mind that stretched far beyond Ali's sleek curves.
I've always wanted to express that kind of sexual tension on screen. I've tried to write it into mainstream feature films. It's not the typical porn at all, for it's the sex of devotion to one person that you've looked for all your life... the sex of elitists. It's a bizarre psychological tension of minds battling in the days of more restrictive sexism, but it does share one common adult theme: the female's false struggle against male domination, only to yearn for it upon physical defeat.
And it builds for eons via mere staring at parties, but that can be hotter than the deepest throat or
I kind of hate Ayn Rand as a person or philosopher, but I think her work is intriguing, fascinating maybe.
For those of you in the know, here are my questions:
Has there ever been a Rand-inspired porn? Or anything like it? I used to work for the Telluride Film Festival which played the most esoteric porns on the Wednesday before the fest, but I never saw anything like what I'm imagining, although Sasha's "Verite Erotica" sounds promising.
What do you think of Sasha playing Dominique? She's young for the part, but she's the most aggressive brain in the biz that I know of. Her philosophy towards pornography seems to be par with Rand in some strange parallel universe.
What do you think of a near silent feature-length porn? I find that most bad porn falls hardest with extended dialogue, and I tend to write with absolute minimal language. More of a ballet. I haven't seen too much of Sasha's work, but that's how I've heard it goes.
Does anyone know Roark's character and an appropriate hard core actor? Roark REALLY doesn't talk, so it's more about his natural facial expression... or lack thereof.
I am friends with one adult producer who I'm hanging with in a couple days, but I think he's aiming to get out of the business. So any help is very welcome...
Finally, Sasha - I know you read these sometimes. What do you think? I, personally, didn't read Rand until I was 24, but I wouldn't put anything past you. You could play the part even though it'd be another world from anything I've seen you in. I liked what I saw, but I want to help you take it to the next level that you always talk about. Please let me know - or find me on myspace...
Hope you guys are reviewing this DVD someday. It'll be different, but isn't that what we always look for? Something different?
Cheers,
Brian Garton
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:29AM
I think you're dead on about the subtextual SM of Rand's writing, it's appeal certainly isn't her prose style or clear thinking.
For Roark, Brandon Iron or Rocco.
Kevin Moore
Member

Subdivided & Synthetic
320 Posts
4/00
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:33AM
I've always wanted to make 2112 the porno. I think Mr. Peart might get offended though.
I was very influenced by Ms. Rand in my youth. However, I don't think of sexual freedom and ayn rand in the same sentence. Matter of fact I've read a good amount of things about Ayn Rand (I just finished Greenspan's book and he was very influenced by Ayn) and she was pretty outspoken against homosexuality and promiscuity.
garatonator
New Member

3 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 10:54AM
Yeah - this idea may be quite perverse in ways beyond vomiting and dirty anal... Rand is a paradox as far as I can see, in the way she wrote and lived. The rape scene seems to be one of the most controversial situations written in the last century. I've had so many arguments about it - you hate it and love it.
I'm definitely not suggesting that Rand would have approved. Rand didn't even live by her own values in her personal life, which is part of the mystique.
It's anti-feminist in the way that she tries to find a foundation to the stereotyped 'women are irrational' behavior. It's violent and destructive sex from almost any point of view, but at the same time it's the hottest thing I've ever read (especially when you have a real life Dominique counterpart in mind who tells you to read the book)
It's domination and submission in the real world with years of foreplay and no safety words.
Anyway, I appreciate the thoughts, keep them coming anybody...
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 12:00PM
How about "Atlas Shagged" ?
 
garatonator
New Member

3 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 12:18PM
Don't know Atlas well - read about it, but never read it...
found this quote on wiki:
"the sex in Rand’s novels is extraordinarily violent and fetishistic. In The Fountainhead, the first coupling of the heroes, heralded by whips and rock drills and horseback riding and cracks in marble, is ‘an act of scorn ... not as love, but as defilement’ – in other words, a rape. (‘The act of a master taking shameful, contemptuous possession of her was the kind of rapture she had wanted.’ In Atlas Shrugged, erotic tension is cleverly increased by having one heroine bound into a plot with lots of spectacularly cruel and handsome men.)
Now that sounds like a good porno, no? Except with non-sexual foreplay... shot only with sound...
another quote :
The Fountainhead (1943), features sex scenes with stylized erotic combat that some claim borders on rape. Rand said that if what The Fountainhead depicted was rape it was "rape by engraved invitation
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