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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 2:42PM
Just a reminder to everyone that Nacho Vidal's return directing video with Evil Angel will be released next week!!!

The cast includes Belladonna, Avy Scott, Katja Kassin, Julie Knight, Ashley Long, Velvet Rose and Alicia Rhodes.

I was just amazed at the quality of the video and camerawork. It's not something you see very often in vignette movies these days. And the sex... well, it's a Nacho movie, so expect top-notch sex scenes all the way through!!!!

The movie itself is 2 hours 20 minutes long, and the DVD includes 28 minutes of extras and behind-the-scenes.

M.B.
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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 3:17PM
Now that Nacho is in the fold at Evil Angel, how about JJ and Joey start using him in their movies instead of Mark Wood and John Strong. I'm sure they are nice guys, but WOAD #2 really suffered due to poor male casting. One of the few JJ movies I was really disappointed in.
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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 3:58PM
I'm sure that a few people know this already, but I do so very much enjoy watching Katja.

Having not seen WOAD 2 yet, I can't comment on that, but I don't think that Mark Wood is a bad performer. John Strong I don't think I've seen so I definitely can't comment on him.

Nacho in more Joey movies would be pretty cool.

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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 5:07PM
I'm very curious and even anxious to see this.
I haven't seen much that Nacho has directed, and other than BellaDonna and her Louisville Slugger (which wasn't exactly my concept of whack-off material -- though, damn impressive), I can't say there was much memorable about his first "No Limits." But the shots on the Evil website make this release look like the real deal -- especially for viewers like me, who have not found what they were looking for in recent Rocco titles, and find Jules's (albeit highly skilled and committed) endeavors to be a bit too samey (so sue me, I'm a fickle S.O.B.). The cast looks 100% perfect, and I know the sex will be off the charts intense. I know we can trust Trish on the technical aspects, so ..... Can't wait!
TheDuude
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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 8:11PM
as you all know, i just might be the biggest katja fan on these boards, and i cannot wait to see this movie. her geisha girl scene looks so sexy. great job evil angel gang on casting this girl in 3 movies already, keep her coming in more :). also, if i may, i posted this in response to a question about how to set up a scene especially for katja, and i think it would be uber hot to see her do another jj movie setup this way: possibly some light bondage i.e. having her hands tied behind her back at the begining of the scene (katja has done many a fetish/bondage photo shoots and should not have any problems with it) as for what to wear: fishnet stockings, she wore red fishnets in truly nice ass 3. they tend to accentuate the curves of the female body (and katja has more curves than i can count) and they just make her look uber hot as always. one idea would be to have a scene start out with another girl, starting out with some light lesbian footage while katja is tied up/bound lightly. then have the girl disappear (possibly to return in another scene) and then have jj walk in and have katja start giving him oral while her hands and behind her back...

wow, that's a pretty hot scene to me, maybe i should start shooting movies :)

anyway, that's my 2 cents worth, and seeing as how i was one of the first people to start these threads about katja, hopefully people will agree with some of my ideas :)

let me know if anyone else thinks that this sounds like a good setup for a scene.

great work tricia and evil angel, keep up the hot flicks

as always

the duude abide's

 
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Posted - Jun 19 2003 : 8:53PM
Thanx for the update, Tricia. Thats quite an impressive cast and I can't wait to see what Senór Vidal has planned for all those hot cuties!

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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 12:50AM
All of us at Evil Angel, especially those of us who work in the offices, agree with you all on Katja.
She is also on the cover of the newest Buttman magazine (Volume 6 #3) with a layout from Joey Silvera's New Girls 3.

Enjoy, everyone!

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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 1:22AM
OMG ---- Katja is the bomb!
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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 1:33AM
Kaja Kassin in the cast = Must buy DVD.

Hey Tricia, any chance of seeing Katja in Buttman movie? That would be simply awesome!

Btw, does Bella have long or short hair in this movie?

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 1:39AM
It's a possibility.

And Belladonna has medium-length black hair in Back 2 Evil .

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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 1:45AM
Thanks for the info Tricia.

I think Katja could break Talia James's record for biggest butt in a Buttman movie IMO. I know beggars can't be choosers but I think Steve Holmes would be the perfect guy to do a scene with Katja.

Wanker_Wang
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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 5:53PM
Katja has a very nice bubble butt. I farted on her face in front of a German Film Crew and was so drunk during her Double Anal she refuses to work for me unless I apologize. My testicles were hanging from my holed-up boxer shorts. Other than that, she gives a great performance. But for a German, she doesn't drink beer so I can not fully recommend her though she's one of the best girls out there.

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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 6:28PM
DAMN! Been waiting long for this one! Bella Donna, Avy Scott and Ashley Long have been on the my top list of this year. The stills from the EA site has a bottle in Avy Scott's ass. Does this mean she will do proper anal soon. I hope so! Thanks Tricia for adding something to my wish cart...

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Posted - Jun 20 2003 : 7:04PM
Avy Scott has probably done her first anal with Seymore Butts in WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE (not released yet).

gh

 
sassyshh
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Posted - Jun 22 2003 : 2:33PM
Thanks Tricia

(Already had this title on PRE-order at my girlfriend's store!) The teaser images I've seen look stunning (as you've described), so my girl & I will be looking forward to this one.

I can't get enough of Bella Donna. ~big grins~

The most beautiful makeup of a woman is passion.
~Yves Saint Laurent.

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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 12:24AM

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Wally
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 1:17AM
I saw the video on monday. Great picture quality, great camera work, the people at Evil angel put a lot effort into this dvd, delivering quality porn. But as is always with me the girls is what makes or brakes a video. Never been a Belladona fan so the only reason I got this video was to see Avy Scott and for some reason her scene with Nacho didn't "do it" for me. Just don't get me wrong Nacho delivers his usual intense fuck all over Avy. He even penetrates her ass with a wine bottle. ....So you guys maybe thinking: what the hell was wrong with the scene? ..well, the fucking monkey couldn't shut up during the fucking the sucking, every time Nacho goes down hard on Avy the fucking monkey goes crazy screaming his little lungs out. ..Honestly, I believe the monkey was having the impression that Nacho was trying to kill Avy or maybe he was just jealous he couldn't give a little monkey love himself to the girl with the big breast ..(I don't know if this is good or bad but even though this is a vignettes video I got the feeling I was watching Ass Collector #2 btw) ...Avy scene is the darkest of all and the fucking she receives from Nacho against the piano is pretty rough. ...anyway, I'm sure this dvd is gonna get many 4-5 stars reviews. ..To Evil Angel: Next time leave the monkey free guys, I felt sorry for the little guy 'cos he couldn't get his way with the babe
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 3:40AM
I don't get it Wally, what monkey are you talking about?
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 10:17AM
Maybe they want to shock the monkey
Jim-A
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 11:18AM
Who's the blonde getting choked?
sassyshh
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 11:24AM
Or spank it??

By the way, if Evil Angel has created a Bella Donna clone, I'd like to have one! ~looks at the box & grins~

Edited by - sassyshh on 6/25/2003 11:43:40 AM

Wally
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 2:06PM
She was the reason I got the video. Avy Scott
Wally
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 2:19PM
..in Avy's scene there is a big cage with a Capuchino monkey in it. The little guy is an unwilling witness to the porn spectacle in front of him. ..He goes berserk everytime Nacho starts to go rough on Avy. With all the screaming, the monkey gives the scene a freeky touch.
SyberScott
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 5:20PM
Does Avy take anal from Nacho or just from the
toy Wally?
 
P-Knuckle
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 5:20PM
I am only halfway through the dvd thus far; I got about half into the monkey scene when I called it quits for the day....

What can I say? This is some strong shit here... I can't wait for the Belladonnna scene. Thus far, top notch. Maybe its because Nacho is relentless in his domination of the girls. Maybe because some of the action has the appearance of a street snuff film and feels very real, scary, and hot as hell. It reminds me of the first time I saw Max Hardcore. I didn't know if what I saw was even reality; it was like someone put a finger on the pulse of some of my darkest fantasies and filmed them.

Nacho is showing hardcore in a new way; I hope AVN gives him a look this year for his work. He seems to not be getting his proper due; I don't see a lot of props shot his way for his past work from both fan and critics alike. I hope this title might focus some positive attention for his work.

Plain and simple, Back 2 Evil is why I watch porn, love porn, and live porn. Its nice to see something dirty and dangerous again.


Edited by - P-Knuckle on 6/25/2003 5:20:49 PM

cubesnake
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 5:48PM
Hi,
Monkey ... do you mean a real monkey ?

I already hate those f*cking Anabolic dogs barking during a hot scene ... don´t tell me there´s a real monkey crying his guts out on this DVD ... please

Cube

Wally
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 8:50PM
..not real anal for Avy just the toy.
Silent Jay
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 9:17PM
How Was Katja Kassin's Scene

I Love You Guys

Edited by - Silent Jay on 6/25/2003 9:16:57 PM

Yani Z
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 9:35PM
Cubesnake wrote:
Monkey ... do you mean a real monkey ?

Yeah Cubesnake it's a real monkey and it adds to the scene, puts it in a whole new realm! The sex is one of the most hardcore I have ever seen! Come to think of it that dam monkey got so horny by Nachos pounding and Avy's moaning, I thought he was going to add me to the scene when my back was turned on him.

Edited by - Yani Z on 6/27/2003 3:10:37 AM

Asmodeus
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 9:47PM
LOL! Well maybe the monkey was just pissed he wasn't banging Avy himself.

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Max Booty
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Posted - Jun 25 2003 : 10:19PM
all of a sudden I'm afraid of watching this video.....

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"Watch out man, those fuckers bite!"

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Hey, Max -- why are you starting over from scratch?

Max Booty
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Posted - Jun 26 2003 : 8:54AM
changed my email and lost my password so when I got logged off I had no way of getting back on since the password was being sent to an account I no longer have access to. Emailed Drew for some help but never got a response...so back to the begin.

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Posted - Jun 26 2003 : 4:57PM
Evil Angel should stop "monkeying" around
 
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Posted - Jun 29 2003 : 3:57PM
Well, I am no where near done, hell, I haven't even started the review, but this is definitely a very solid effort.

I can't say I was all that thrilled with any of Nacho's previous directorial efforts, but this release has raised my expectations.

Damn, this is along the lines on Animal Trainer, but not exactly, it's got a dark vibe going on, and I must say some great camera work, cool story, and hot and rough sex is sure to be found.

This is from the first 10 or so minutes of the film, and scanning through the rest, that I can safely say is an Evil title.

A couple of downsides are WESLEY PIPES, and Katja's covered face, though not as big a downside as the annoying motormouth Wes.

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Max Booty
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Posted - Jun 29 2003 : 4:11PM

glad to hear that from you Mike. I too have mixed feelings about some previous Nacho efforts behind the camera. If the main Joey man around the forum gives it a thumbs up, then I guess I will probably pick it up. Thanks.
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Posted - Jun 29 2003 : 4:53PM
Actually, I love Kabuki Katja ... Something about the makeup was very exciting.

BIGmike: Check out the behind-the-scenes footage in the Special Features section. There, if you are perceptive, you will discover a "clue" as to why "Back2Evil" seems a little more 'special" than what you may have expected from Nacho, based on prior viewing experiences. While we know that Roman Polanski is the "auteur" of "Chinatown," for instance, how much did screenwriter Robert Towne have to do with its structure and perspective? To me, the scenes involving bondage/control themes with dark lighting are very intriguing and "hot" in ways that go beyond the usual parade of positions -- I only wish they'd gone even further into seeming dementia. (But the more straight-up ram/jammy sex scenes in spare bedrooms work pretty well, too -- esp. with babes as nasty and willing as Alicia Rhodes and Julie Night).

Just something to think about when watching "Back2Evil." I give it a very high recommendation for viewers who enjoy really hard and definitely a little twisted sex. Wesley Pipes, well, he's a little much in his scene with the astounding Alicia Rhodes, but
the role-playing in the scene is pretty hot.

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Posted - Jun 29 2003 : 5:04PM
While we know that Roman Polanski is the "auteur" of "Chinatown," for instance

Okay. I have no clue about what that means, but somehow, I don't think it will effect my perception of this title.

Actually the behind the scenes was the first thing I watched. And I truly love the lighting, dark? Sure, but with the special effects and sounds, I was really thinking I was watching a mainstream-type flick.

Hey, no problems with KATJA, that's for sure, I absolutely love this girl, so while I don't care for all that makeup covering her pretty face, my comment was by no means meant to insult her.

oh, I just hate Wesley Pipes, if he'd keep his yap shut, I'd like him.

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Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 2:57PM
skronker - I do know what you're referring to.
I don't know if you have become friends with said "clue" or not, but I hope people can believe me when I say that I have listened to every minute of the raw footage of each tape, and the ONLY times I heard a female voice off-camera was when the people were in the makeup/changing rooms.
There was quite a bit of back and forth going on about this, so to settle the matter in my own mind, I went straight to the source. Now, at least for myself, I feel confident that this movie is definitely Nacho.
The idea he says he reluctantly conceeded to, the pseudo-kidnap of Julie Knight, is my least favorite thing in the movie. For theme and casting.

I've misplaced the link, but Henri Pachard has written a wonderful article on yesportal.com about Nacho. I'd like to paraphrase, but he says that no one can direct Nacho, they simply hire him and watch the fireworks. As someone priviledged to watch Nacho work several times, I completely agree. Thanks Henri!

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Hi Tricia:

It's intriguing (to me, anyway) to say the least. But I never saw the Latin Psycho movies -- only some very straightforward Sineplex titles that Nacho directed -- so, given some of that "back and forth," and some of the unusually strong conceptual shadings to some of the scenes in "Back2Evil," it made me wonder if there were any unseen (if well-manicured) hands involved. Anyway, it's definitely one of the most intense and artful releases I've seen in a while.

Sign me,
Colonel Mustard

Edited by - skronker on 6/30/2003 8:29:50 PM

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 9:47PM
You're right. The Latin Psycho movies were very similar to the Killer Pussy movies from New Sensations, and probably his movies from Sineplex.

But we got him to use our cinematographer from Fashionistas on two of the scenes, and spend some money on crew for lighting, makeup, locations, etc. and it looks like it was more than worth it.

We aren't saying that every one of Nacho's Evil Angel movies will be this thorough, but if there's a Back 2 Evil 2, it will be.

--Tricia

YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 10:00PM
Henri has written at least a couple of articles about what it's like to "direct" Nacho:

"Nacho! Nacho! Viva Vidal!"

"Nacho Vidal Re-Signs with Evil Angel

bjs
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Posted - Jun 30 2003 : 11:01PM
thanks for the links yoga girl. which scene is he referring to in the Viva Vidal article?
Max Booty
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 3:55PM
I've watched Back 2 Evil twice this weekend and I've got to say I've got mixed feelings about it. First off, it is beautifully produced. An Evil Angel disc all the way. The video is very sexual and highly charged but somehow distant. Good porn for me is about immediacy & need and I just never got that. The themes didn't really bother me, rather the execution just seemed a little off. I don't know....maybe I just need to watch it again. Sorry to waste people's time but I'm trying to wrap my brain around this video...which is a compliament in and of itself.

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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 4:39PM
I guess I like the arty abstraction of some of the scenes, esp. the ones shot in very dark lighting. I enjoy variety. The Alicia Rhodes vs. Two Scary Black Dudes scene was plenty "immediate" I thought. I know what you mean, though, Max -- I'm just a sucker for quirky scenarios and unusual outfits, fantasy material -- as opposed to the ol' orgy in someone's empty apartment set up of most porn (even two of the scenes in Back2Evil, redeemed by the performances of course).



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