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Sole Brother
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68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 1:30AM
I used to look forward to this series more than any other in porn. But I've seen a steady decline over the last few volumes. Now, instead of having five standard fuck scenes like they used to have, they have a bunch of solo scenes, and maybe two or three actual sex scenes. I just saw the preview for the next volume, and that's the formula they're going with.

The most frustrating part is that they totally nailed the right formula just a few short volumes ago in BC #29. There you had ten girls, a variety of ethnicities, and they all did footjobs with foot cum shots. I actually wrote to Kick Ass Pictures and told them how great it was. No response, of course. But right after that volume, they totally abandoned it.

Someone please explain to me what's happened over at Kick Ass. Is it just that Barefoot Confidential isn't a popular series so they don't spend much time on it? Have the directors changed? Or is it that other fans of the series actually prefer more solo scenes and less fucking?

Does anyone care about this other than me? Hello-lo-lo...? Echo-echo-echo...? Fellow foot fans, tell me I'm not alone.

aiden
Belladonna Entertainment

Lost in Hollywood
246 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 1:56AM
You're not alone. Although, I don't watch porn, and we don't shoot footjobs/cumshots, I still have a foot fetish, and you'll always see it in our movies.

I don't know if thats helping you out any, but I promise you this, if we ever shoot boy/girl in the future, you will get your footjobs/cumshots. I promise.

Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 4:11AM
Aiden, that's all I can ask. Maybe if more companies did these kinds of flicks (with similar talent quality) it wouldn't be so frustrating. Thanks for the reply.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 5:08AM
Mark Kulkis killed the BC serie when he gave it to Andre Madness to direct. It's a shame because the ones Kulkis directed were great. Andre Madness is the reason why I don't buy anymore movies from KAP unless it's the Smokin' serie which still included some pretty good foot-shots and which are directed by Kulkis.
Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 5:55AM
I think that's the key. If the director actually likes feet and cares about what he's shooting, the product will be better. It seems like they're just going through the motions now. If you want to do a whole movie with just solo scenes, fine. Create a new masturbation series. But leave BC the way it was before. That's all I ask.
 
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 1:20PM
Personally I don't think Andre Madness cares about anything. I still can't forgive him for screwing up the Monica Sweetheart scene in BC17 with the very bad lighting and the very bad camera angles.

I personally loved the POV volumes of BC with Kulkis working the camera, those were the best volumes.

Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 2:56PM
I hear you. I dug those a lot too. But I still say they struck gold with BC #29, and then never went back to that formula.

I know that it can't be easy directing porn, but I think that if you can't do it right, just don't do it at all.

aiden
Belladonna Entertainment

Lost in Hollywood
246 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 3:05PM
I don't mean this to be a crack at your in anyway Sole Brother, BUT... why does the "right" way of directing have to be the way you want it to be? Maybe the way he is directing it is the way "he" thinks it should be. Just a comment, and nothing against you, because I believe you are right... but if the director chooses to go a certain path, thats his choice and if he looses customers over it, thats his problem, you just have to find another company that is shooting the stuff you like, OR you as they say, "shoot it yourself."
Jonnyb
Doghouse Digital

Canada
36 Posts
11/03
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 7:03PM
hey all, i think Doghouse has got what you are looking for in our Eat My Feet series!!! Rod Fontana is and always has been the king of foot fetish and i think this series truly proves that!!! Volume 1 was nominated for best foot fetish and volume 2 is on it's way...check it out and let me know what you think.

JonnyB

Flopper
Member

11 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 9:36PM
Are you gonna post a link for us Johnnyb?
aiden
Belladonna Entertainment

Lost in Hollywood
246 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 9:53AM
Not much there, but Doghouse Digital
The Zaye Man
Zaye Entertainment

136 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 12:50PM
Keep a eye out for the Pussy Foot'n series , #1 In Europe and super strong In the states as well!! The hottest chicks in porn Is what you will get with this series! with great technical skills and super hot sex!

Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 1:11PM
Where in Europe?




Wally said:
"Are they French? mmmmm okay, let me put it this way, I didn't hear any of the girls saying; oui, oui! while taking it up the pooper. Or is it wee, wee? ..hey, my canary says wee, wee, ..maybe he is French?! fucking bastard, they told me he was from Brooklyn!"
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 1:15PM
I bought Eat My Feet a while ago just haven't had the time to watch it yet. It sure has a fantastic boxcover with Cailey Taylor and personally I consider Rod Fontana one of the best foot-fetish director, I was a big fan of his Lower Extremities serie.
I recently bought volume 12 beause of Chasey Lain and Flower but also didn't have the chance to watch it yet.

Now I wonder when we will see Ariana Jollee and Melissa Lauren in a foot-fetish movie. This is the thing I don't understand of KAP, they used both girls for their creampie and their other series but they didn't cast them in a volume of BC. I guess it's true what Van Damage once told me about some girls not wanting to do foot-fetish movies because they hate their feet. I remember he said this after I asked him if he shot some good feet stuff for Sandwich of Love.

Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 10 2005 : 6:31PM
I feel you, Aiden. And I don't take it as a crack against me at all. I guess I was just venting b/c I was frustrated. Since starting this thread, I signed up for a membership with the Hot Legs and Feet web site, and I have to say...those guys (whoever they are) totally get what I like about the genre. So all is not lost. The only downside is that I generally prefer to watch American girls as opposed to Euros. It has nothing to do with looks (because the girls on that site are generally gorgeous), it just helps to fulfill my fantasy. But whatever. Nothing great lasts forever. I'm glad I had the chance to enjoy BC at all. I'll look at it that way.
 
Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 10 2005 : 6:34PM
Thanks, man. I'll definitely look out for it. And I have to agree that Rod Fontana is the undisputed king of foot fetish. I've seen pretty much all of his stuff, and it's very obvious that he's into feet and understands what guys like me want to see.
Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 10 2005 : 6:38PM
I'm a very big fan of your series, man. I thought the very first volume was one of the best FF movies I have ever seen. Hot girls, and the focus was really on the feet. And the rest of the vids in the series always have very good looking girls. Since you are one of the few doing this type of thing, I just want to say thank you from a fan who truly appreciates it.
footjob
Member

242 Posts
2/05
Posted - Mar 10 2005 : 11:13PM
Has anyone seen anything from the "Foot Traffic" series directed by Mark Wood. Just wondering if they are worth buying.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 11 2005 : 3:42AM
In my opinion HotLegsAndFeet.com are the best when it comes to making foot-fetish stuff. Too bad they only released one DVD so far. I can't wait until they release their footage of Monica Sweetheart, Jane Darling, Lea De Mae and Michelle Wild.
The Zaye Man
Zaye Entertainment

136 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 16 2005 : 11:47PM
Hey SB , thank you kindly , Its truly nice to hear that people appreciate the time and effort I have put into this line to find the right girls to pair up and get It on because let me tell its really not easy and sometimes 1 girl can really make your day terrible especially when she cant delivery what you want and the last thing I want to do Is to let my fans down for any reason! I really try to make sure they get their hard earned money's worth! Thanks again, Richie Zaye

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:08PM
Zaye Man: any chance of seeing Ariana Jollee in a volume of Pussy Foot'n? You could make history because it would be her first foot-fetish movie. Bridgette Kerkove is also very high on my list.
loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 1:40PM
hey zaye ,
i can add alicia rhodes , mandy bright , melissa lauren and audery hollander to the list of girls that we need to see some foot action. and i'd love to see them in pussy foot'n serie although u guys prefer new girls. i really think u should combine more known girls with the new ones in the pussy foot'n serie.
Jonnyb
Doghouse Digital

Canada
36 Posts
11/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 2:15PM
Hey Ramsey and Sole Brother... if and when you get a chance to check out Eat My Feet, me and Rod would love to hear your feedback. Keep in touch and enjoy!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 4:46PM
There are some great feet pics and clips of Melissa Lauren on HotLegsAndFeet.com. She has without a doubt some of the best feet in the adult-industry.

I do agree with Alicia, I haven't seen any feet-footage of her so far.

I will as soon as possible.

Edited by - Ramsey on 3/17/2005 4:46:47 PM

loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 1:39AM
thats great but i still prefer buying dvds than joining sites .
 
Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 9:33AM
I agree but we can't be too picky when it comes to Melissa Lauren's feet so I will take whatever I can get ;-)

With some luck DDF will release the Melissa scene on DVD eventhough they only released one DVD so far. I wonder if they will also release the casting footage of Melissa on DVD because it has some awesome shots of her feet from all angles.

The Zaye Man
Zaye Entertainment

136 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 9:50PM
Hey Ramsey, funny you mentioned these names, I am shooting melissa lauren, ariana jolie, and sandra romain in a 3 way coming up for PF #14 , It should be a smoker!! thanks again!!!

The Zaye Man
Zaye Entertainment

136 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 10:00PM
Mandy bright huh? I havent seen her around lately, but I really love requests!! I will do my best to include any of the girls you guys out there wish to see! but then again I do prefer new girls, I like to give the customers a good variety and also at least 50% of the girls I shoot do not do B/G so you really wont find them much place else! I like to think Im some what unique in a sense of what I shoot. But again I am open to special requests and If I use your Idea I will give up your name in the behind the scenes segment of the dvd for credit : )

Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 5:24AM
YES!!!

I hope you shoot their feet from all angles especially the soles because most of the time I noticed they don't get the attention on camera they deserve.

Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 21 2005 : 3:51PM
I'll be looking for it today. I have a few favorite stores around the SF Valley that carry the titles I like, so I'll see if they have Eat My Feet. With Rod Fontana involved, I have high hopes. I can honestly say that if I could switch places with any porn guy, it would be Rod. He has a great attitude, and seems to be up for almost anything (inculding water sports). What a pro!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 2:19PM
I noticed BC34 being released recently and on the boxcover it says it's directed by Mark Kulkis, maybe they are reading this forum after all and read how we feel about the terrible job Andre Madness is doing, at least I hope they do.

As for the movie, I'm not really impressed by the cast, only girls from the B and C-list, not one A-list girl. Also no listing who the guys are so I sure won't buy this movie.

Why is it so hard to get A-list girls for foot-fetish movies? I don't understand this.

Sole Brother
Member

68 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 27 2005 : 5:21PM
I was excited at first too until I read the boxcover. They're doing eight solo scenes, and only three actual sex scenes. As much as I love female feet...I don't need to see eight solo scenes. Take those same eight girls, add a guy, or two guys, or gang bang, or a girl, etc, and let them go at it. Maybe it's just me, but that's what I'd love to see.

As for why it's hard to get A-List girls to do foot fetish, I have no idea. My theory is that a lot of women are kind of self conscious about their feet. I have noticed this in my private life too. When I've attempted to give some girls a foot massage, a lot of them shy away because they don't think their feet are cute and they don't want guys to see them. I remember a couple years ago I was dating a really hot Latina girl and she insisted that she always have socks on, or something covering her feet, even in bed. As you can imagine, for a foot lover like me, it was torture!

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 1:07PM
PF #14 was released a couple of days ago but no Melissa, Ariana or Sandra, just some b-stars instead. Very sad.
loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 2:00PM
i think u should open a new topic for that question , i thought about it myself when i saw the cast list.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 2:16PM
I thought about opening a new thread also but I hope this thread will draw the attention of Zaye Man and he will explain to us why he got our hopes up for nothing.

I don't understand why it's so difficult to make a good foot-fetish movie with big stars. Brandon Iron had a great cast for TLP4 with some big names but that was the only volume that was interesting.

 
loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 3:33PM
i'm with u on that one - i want to see big names like alicia rhodes , mandy bright , melissa lauren , audery hollander and a lot more big stars in foot fetish movies.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 3:54PM
Hear hear but more than anything Bridgette Kerkove. There are some good feet-shots of her in White Trash Whore 11 and Sandwich of Love.

Actually there are some pretty nice foot-shots of Alicia Rhodes in Rear Enders including her rubbing her feet on some dick.

Brandon Iron
BrandonIron.com

3832 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 4:50PM
Thanks, Ramsey. Glad I could put out 5 volumes of foot fetish, a genre that undersells others in my experience at Platinum X, so that one could meet your approval.

I hire 10 girls to fuck in TEN LITTLE PIGGIES and it does not sell as well as hiring five girls in BELL BOTTOMS. It costs more but sells less. Do the math. This is just my experience, of course, but the lessons I learn are expensive ones.

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 11:53AM
I agree with the author of this thread. I have a huge foot fetish(the fetish is huge, not the feet ), and I much prefer sex with footplay included than just a solo scene.

Brandon understands this thankfully.

I never have seen the eat my feet series, or the pussy foot'n series, but I will check them out soon.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 1:01PM
Brandon Iron, the way I see it you should make the TLP serie a girl/girl serie. It will be a lot of cheaper to make and the guys in it won't be in the way of the action.
Gentleman Jon All-Star Supporter
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1881 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 4:00PM
Ummmmm, no. Some all girl scenes in a title would be okay but not over half of the scenes in any one title. That way you could use the really hot girls with nice legs and feet who happen to be strictly g/g only performers. But you still have to have some boy/girl intercourse and footjobs. I do like girl/girl scenes, I really do, but boy/girl sex is good to watch also, and cumshots on the feet with the girls cleaning up with their tongues are always a big highlight.
Sometimes in foot fetish scenes you can get some of the g/g only girls to work with males a little bit more than they usually do as long as they don't actually get penetrated. The old g/g/b threesome bit with one g/g only girl and one bi girl, where the guy only fucks the bi girl, but the g/g only performer can sometimes be talked into giving the guy a little bit of a footjob in addition to getting it on with the bi girl, and at the end he can cum on both of their feet and the bi girl can lick both of them clean. At least, Sandy of Budapest has done that before on hotlegsandfeet.com, and she has since done other scenes for her own site where she'll give a little bit of a handjob and even a little bit of a blowjob as long as there's another girl in the scene for her to make out with and him to fuck. I know not all g/g only girls are like Sandy or became g/g only for the same reason, I'm just saying that there is some precedent for g/g only girls to decide that even though they don't want to fuck a man on camera they might do a footjob on camera. It could be a selling point to have a girl known for not working with men to be in a vid working with a man even if she doesn't let him actually fuck her.
Besides, Richie Zaye's Pussy Foot'n series is already mostly an all girl series anyway. That's not to knock Pussy Foot'n, some of those that I've seen are pretty good, but how many other foot fetish series with no or little boy/girl sex does the world need? Remember, this thread started with the complaint about Barefoot Confidential going to mostly solo scenes.
Brandon Iron
BrandonIron.com

3832 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 4:17PM
Believe me, putting out eight solo scenes is the way to go! I am thinking about doing the next PIGGIES strictly as a footjob title just so that I can make something out the door instead of relying on reorders to break even down the road.
Foot fetish, in a word, stinks.
Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 5:04PM
I agree because that's what I want to see. In my opinion that made the early volumes of Barefoot Confidential great. The solo scenes. Kulkis ruined it by mixing it with regular sex because the foot-theme got lost.

I would buy every volume of TLP if it would be solo-action with some big name pornstars. Melissa Lauren is the first name that comes to mind. Flower Tucci is second.

Gentleman Jon All-Star Supporter
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1881 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 5:16PM
Footjobs only? Actually I could probably live with that. In fact I know I can, as long as the girls are hot, including their feet. That is to say, not all pretty girls necessarily have pretty feet. I think there are girls with really gorgeous faces and nice bodies above their knees who have wide, flat feet and stubby toes and thick ankles who really shouldn't do foot fetish, no matter how much I like them in other genres. Other foot fetishists may like flat and wide feet, but I'll pass on that. Give me arches and narrowness. But anyway, in Barefoot Confidential 21 Cindy Crawford's scene which included fucking was really good, but the best scene of all was Taylor Rain's solo tease and masturbation followed by a footjob. That's because Taylor Rain is Taylor Rain. But if the cover girl is even just 3/4 as hot as Taylor Rain and the other girls are just half as hot as Taylor, then a footjob only vid would work.
I haven't seen BC #29, which Sole Brother liked so much, but by the way he describes it you could basically take over the formula that BC should be doing, but isn't. If it costs more than solos, I'm sure it would also sell more to have footjobs than with only solos. Yeah, go ahead and try that and see if footjobs but no fucking is more profitable.
Brandon Iron
BrandonIron.com

3832 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 5:34PM
Then it's resolved! I will take a page out of Barefoot Confidential and change it up a bit, which will save some money, too. Great! In my opinion, it's kind of offering less to the consumer but you cannot argue with success. BC did not get where it is for nothing.
footjob
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242 Posts
2/05
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 7:37AM

Edited by - footjob on 7/23/2005 4:27:29 PM

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 10:58AM
Wow, this thread took a turn for the worse, IMO. I understand the financial concern of doing it that way, and that you're probably losing money as it's being done now, but making it primarily solo scenes is the quickest way to get me to stop buying it.

It looks like I'm in the minority, so I wish you luck, and hope it becomes a title that actually makes money.

My favorite thing to do with feet is to suck them while I'm fucking her. Looking over my shoulder and seeing her cute little toes curling as I'm fucking her is just about one of my favorite turn-ons. This, obviously with closeups of the feet from every angle during this process, is what I look for in foot fetish titles.

I enjoy footjobs also, but just footjobs with no sex is why I only bought one version of Toe Jam. After seeing Victoria Sin and Alicia Allighatti giving those footjobs, and then not seeing their pussies penetrated with their bare feet in the male talent's face, I was a bit frustrated.

I'm not criticising you, Brandon. You know I enjoy your work greatly. And I understand you can't stay on a sinking ship. I just wish there were more people like me who would help keep the ship afloat.

You must do what you must, and everyone has different tastes. But it looks like I will just have to rely on producers like Devil's films, and you, to keep making non foot fetish specific scenes, but still have the girls bare-footed and add the occasional short footjob or toe suck. Luckily, studios like them, and you, still do that often. Shane's World is another company that is great about keeping their girls bare-footed most of the time during sex.

Sorry for the rant.

Cleetus VanDamme
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I have a high art, I hurt with cruelty those who would damage me.
225 Posts
4/04
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 5:04PM
I have to say that I agree with valjean on this one too. I may not consider myself a total foot fanatic but what I look for in a film is the same as what he describes. I like to watch hot chicks having sex AND I would like a focus in these types of flicks on the barefoot. Just having solo scenes focusing on the foot would not do much for me either. Nothing beats a scene where the chick is having hard sex and is arching her bare foot and wriggling her toes because she is enjoying it so much.
Brandon Iron
BrandonIron.com

3832 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 23 2005 : 6:08PM
The feedback is good to hear. I totally agree with you guys but the facts speak for themselves. The current leader in foot fetish movies is Barefoot Confidential. Kick Ass is very successful putting out a product that people want. I bet you that the numbers for TEN LITTLE PIGGIES will remain similar with or without sex. The production cost will be a fraction of hiring 10 girls to fuck.
valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 24 2005 : 8:57AM
Yep, makes sense. I appreciate the TLP's you have already produced. Do other fetish titles lose money to the extent that TLP does, like AGSOI, or BD, or is TLP the hardest to make a profit with?

Either way, keep up the good work.

Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jul 24 2005 : 10:27AM
For me a foot-fetish movie will only work if there are big names in it and that's the problem with Kick Ass and their BC serie. I mean why did they use Melissa Lauren for two creampie movies yet they didn't use her for the BC serie? Same for Alica Rhodes, Crystal Ray and Ariana Jollee. All these girls were not casted for a volume of BC.

Brandon, do you think you can get these girls I mentioned in a volume of TLP doing a great solo-scene?

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