I'm not suprised the guidelines aren't getting relaxed further, but then i dont bother buying them anyway so im not to bothered.
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| struan Member  SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 |  Posted - Apr 26 2004 : 7:26PMThere has been some speculation on the net that there is little, if any, scope for relaxation of the current R18 guidelines produced by the BBFC. As a result, I contacted them for clarification, as well as asking why, if this was the case, they included questions about the R18 certificate in their current online survey; This is their reply:- "The BBFC's guidelines are a mixture of what public opinion requires and what the law permits. Therefore it is reasonable to ask the public what they think of our current 'R18' standards (which are inside the standards
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| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Apr 27 2004 : 8:36AM I'm not suprised the guidelines aren't getting relaxed further, but then i dont bother buying them anyway so im not to bothered. [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Apr 27 2004 : 6:44PM In light of the response from the BBFC to my enquiry, it would seem that, as was the case with the change in 2000, the only likely way of achieving change is for the BBFC to be legally forced into it. [Link] |
| ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Apr 27 2004 : 7:19PM Edited by - ziniaraya on 4/27/2004 7:20:00 PM [Link] |
| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Apr 27 2004 : 7:50PM However i think it is now Lib Dem policy that porn that does not involve harm to adults, simulate very serious harm or children or animal abuse should be allowed for everyone 16 years+. But again i cant see the Lib Dems getting in next election. [Link] |
| David-J Member 155 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 11:54AM You can argue on 'freedom of speech' grounds that nothing should be censored, but short of this I don't see much to complain of in the BBFC guidelines. The only real anomaly is the ban on pissing (during sex), which is just about the most harmless sex act there is. [Link] |
| Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 3:28PM Personally though, I have little to no interest in the BBFC classification system. At present, where the cost of certification is dependant on length, R18 titles frequently have all the extras hacked out the film and invariably cost more than importing the original anyway. SNP. [Link] |
| Sir Noel Plum Senior Studmuffin 1001 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 3:30PM PS2: I should add that to suggest the BBFC guidelines are irrelevant to me isn't wholly true: customs base their standards on the BBFC so the chance of a package being seized is to some extent related to the domestic standard set by the BBFC. SNP. [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 6:46PM http://online.tns-lobal.com/multimedia/NFO/014195/invite.htm It covers all categories, with a couple of questions specifically about R18. If you wish, you can email them with a more detailed submission on your thoughts relating to R18 (use the webmaster email address). www.bbfc.co.uk HTH. [Link] |
| struan Member SCOTLAND 242 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 7:24PM Seemingly, the BBFC had previously started to allow slightly stronger (but not hardcore) material ‘on the quiet’ while the last Tory government was in power, but when Labour came to power, the then Home Secretary (Jack Straw) was not happy about this, so the BBFC were apparently forced to return to only allowing softcore once again. When the BBFC then refused to classify a film that contained material which had previously been OK, the distributor appealed to the Video Appeals Committee (VAC), which upheld the complaint. Rather than accept this, the BBFC then went to judicial review, where, again, they lost. This effectively meant that, legally, they had to classify the material. As a result, they then 'got together' with all interested authorities (Police, Customs etc.) to formulate their new guidelines, which are those currently in use. It has to be said, that the guidelines allow much stronger material than was apparently contained in the film that initiated the aforementioned proceedings. FWIW, I may have glossed over some of the details, and I am recounting the story from memory, so I make no claims as to the absolute accuracy of the information contained above (he said covering his ass! ) [Link] |
| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Apr 28 2004 : 8:55PM http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/archive.htm#BBFCR18 Id like to see the guidelines changed. Alot of the cuts i know of are a joke - squirting, refernces to spanking/underage sex. The Fashionistas was cut alot, by 20+ minutes. I have some idea what the cuts might have been from seeing only the uncut version, but think it should have been left alone. I agree about their inconsistency, and for all certificates. I have the Robin Hood Prince of Theives DVD (PG) and all the cut bits are in the "making of.." feature and they obviously didnt bother to listen to audio commentaries. Its worth sayng though that although customs and police etc may refer to the BBFC guidlines they arent actually the law. So a customs officer could just seize anthing they dont like the look of and say it is obscene and theres nothing much you can do. But overall R18s allow for alot compared to before and they real problem is the re-authoring and removing of extras. [Link] |
| luula Member UK 36 Posts 4/04 | Posted - Apr 29 2004 : 4:26PM Factor in the very real possibility of a Tory government next election and the chances of seeing a pissing video on these shores are pretty bleak. But still, you can hop on a ferry and get your filth from Amsterdam and be home in time for tea. One of the benefits of the EU!! If there are any UK distributors reading this, please include extra features on your DVDs. If I have to pay 25 quid for an hour and a half of film, I'll have to keep buying from abroad. [Link] |
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