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BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2016 : 5:18AM
Hey all
In another thread I just whipped up one of those typical, 'best of features' lists and when it came to Damiano I had trouble picking one as his 'best' overall. I think for me he made several very strong films so it is hard to pick one as the overall 'best' and I'm unsure what the consensus pick among feature fans would be.
I think we can safely exclude Deep Throat, no matter how successful and incredibly influential and important the film is, I think most would agree with Damiano to some degree when he said he thought the film was 'a piece of shit.'
Maybe some wouldn't go that far but I can't see putting it even his top 5 considering how strong his other films are:
The Devil In Miss Jones
Memories Within Miss Aggie
Portrait
The Story of Joanna
Odyssey: The Ultimate Trip
People
Skin-Flicks
Fantasy
The Sastisfiers of Alpha Blue
I'd have to say that Let My Puppets Come is in a class all by itself.
I think there's a good argument to be made that Devil in Miss Jones may be his masterpiece but I'd say that Odyssey: The Ultimate Trip continues to impress me and The Story of Joanna is a mind-blower.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2016 : 9:13AM
I'm not a fan of JOANNA. I found it dull due to a lack of dialogue, and the scene between Zebedy and Jamie is strangely lame (and soft). I found it to be a real disappointment. It strikes me as trying too hard to be classy.
For me, it's DEVIL, hands down. Beautifully made, and hot too.
I love ODYSSEY, also. The first vignette is particularly fantastic.
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2016 : 10:49AM
I would have to go for DMJ, however The Satisfiers of Alpha Blue and The Story of Joanna are well up there. As is Throat: 12 Years After which isn't on your list.
mcewan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2016 : 11:12AM
^ The Story Of Story Of Joanna was rather dreary and depressing, Terri Hall (R.I.P.) turned in her usual excellent performance. I'll go along with The Devil In Miss Jones as Gerard Damiano's (R.I.P.) best film by far and away and have also enjoy all the remakes of this classic by other by other directors such as Henri Pachard (R.I.P.), Gregory Dark, Paul Thomas and Antonio Passolini.
Skin Flicks is Damiano's most underrated film and the the one I enjoyed the most.
Night Hunger was a very well made a film told in flashback to Jerry Butler by a bartender as he sits in a bar.
Odyssey was another good one good one just about every New York actor at the time was cast in this one.
Never So Deep one of the few films he did on the West Coast.
The Satisfiers Of Alpha Blue was a fun film and I liked the cast.
Jerry Butler in his book Raw Talent would go onto say that shot on video pretty much did Gerard Damiano in however he made an excellent one which I paid $5.00 at an adult bookstore in Hollywood,Ca to watch titled Candy's Little Sister Sugar which Ariel Knight (a.k.a. Tami White) turned in a career performance and John Leslie (R.I.P.) was his usual outstanding self. I'm sorry I never purchased this title.
Gerard Damiano hairdresser turned pornographer pretty much owned by the mob remember he was credit as the director for Waterpower when in fact the film was directed by Shaun Costello.
Edited by - mcewan on 1/31/2016 3:25:51 PM
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 30 2016 : 6:48PM
I haven't seen all of them, but I loved "Satisfiers of Alpha Blue" when I saw it in a theater.
 
alphadachs
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 12:43AM
I also haven't seen all of them, but find it hard to imagine any could be better than Devil in Miss Jones -- truly a masterpiece. I love the part of Georgina Spelvin's memoir describing the filming of this movie.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 3:53AM
Haven't had a chance to see this although I've read very good things about it.
I agree with you quite a bit on Joanna GGG, but it is just so morbid and odd that I find it fascinating. The dour 'classy' tone can be a bit over-reaching but seems part and parcel of being a 'knock-off' of The Story of O.
I appreciate that the scene between Colt and Jamie is even there, also adds to the strange and dream like tone of the film. Too bad it seems curtailed, not sure why that is as Jamie did some other gay scenes and didn't seem have wood problems.
On the flip side, I find the extreme close-ups of the Hall/Colt scene bizarrely abstract and interesting. Never seen anything else like it, clearly the result of Damiano trying to find a different way to shoot a sex scene, which he noted as one of the sources of his frustration in shooting xxx.
I also love Terri Hall but I don't think she's a particularly strong actress in the 70s stable of actresses. She often seems stoned in the films I've seen, which kind of became her style and charm for me. It's interesting to think about other actresses who could have taken the role, although I think Hall's dancing ability and delicate beauty adds to the film.
Edited by - BlackSix on 1/31/2016 6:11:04 AM
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 9:17AM
Couldn't agree more, which makes the failure of the scene even more annoying to me. I want it to be great! And yes, it is quite strange Jamie has problems. A super disappointment. :(
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 11:30AM
^ I don't remember seeing an MM scene in any classic film, so I assume I never saw "Story of Joanna".
"Joanna" was released in 1975. I saw my first porn film in the late-70s, and started watching more regularly in the early-80s. Do you think porn was already becoming less experimental and more commercial by 1980?
I've always assumed I first encountered porn during its Golden Age. (My porn career basically started with Seka's first full-length film.) But I now realize that– for all practical purposes– I missed the 70s. I've seen "Deep Throat", "Devil in Miss Jones", and the Mitchell Brothers "Behind the Green Door", as they are considered classics. Still, the only one I saw in a theater was "Deep Throat" and this was on a college campus, where it would not have been appropriate for me to experience the film as intended.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 11:36AM
I guess you never saw Resurrection of Eve and The Erotic Adventures of Candy, either? It happened occasionally, though in the movies I just cited the scenes were less prolonged than in JOANNA, and certainly were not in a stand alone scene. AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A FLEA also has a whacky guy-guy scene between father and son, but nothing is actually shown (it's in the book).
Yes and no. A lot of really crazy stuff was still to come out--I think we can all agree that, say, Party Doll-a-Go-Go is experimental. The Dark Bros. also were yet to put out their most adventurous stuff. But if you mean it was becoming more heteronormative and clearly labeled, then I would say yes, though homoerotic and transgressive content still infused a lot of product (and still does).
Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 1/31/2016 11:37:30 AM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 3:05PM
By the early 80s I'd say xxx features were shedding some of the countercultural aspects some or even many of the films of the early to mid 70s had.
And as GGG they were becoming more heteronormative although I would also say that concurrently there was also a welcome decline by that time in the irresponsible use of 'rape' as a turn on or stand-in for the required 'kink' scene.
A report on the frequency of rape portrayals in xxx to the Meese Commission found that it had declined signifcantly from the mid 70s peak to a low by the early 80s. This probably had something to do with the more well founded criticisms of feminists of the 'rape as turn on' scenes.
Retrospectively this may seem counterintuitive as the early 80s are when Phil Prince's infamous films kicked in but a broad view of the industry confirms it I think (note the change in approach by Weston, Costello and Spinelli by the early 80s compared to their early work for instance).
T0MBOne
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 3:15PM
I haven't seen Satisfiers of Alpha Blue so I'll try to catch that one soon. I never knew of Miss Aggie until just recently and I loved the different females performing the flashback sex scenes in order that the non-sex actress could play the role in the present. I have a soft spot for that flick.
With that in mind, Devil in Miss Jones would be my pick. Damiano had a decent enough actress in Spelvin, who obviously was game for all the crazier crap that she does in that film. Snakes and all.
I agree with everyone in terms of the Story of Joanna. Looks like Damiano had more money to work with but that did not translate into a flick better than Miss Jones or Miss Aggie. In my Dad's stash of books, I recently found a John Simon collection of his '70s movies reviews called REVERSE ANGLE and he reviews Story of Joanna in between reviews of Cuckoo's Nest and Barry Lyndon. As usual, he's pretty harsh especially on Hall and Gillis saying "...they look like two nice Jewish kids who have nothing of the lovely maiden in distress and the homme fatal about them." He abandons the film almost altogether to instead go on a rant as to why porn and porn actors fail.
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Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 3:22PM
^ Ugh. I read a similar diatribe about porn "trying to be real film" in a British film journal from 1978, but concerning Through the Looking Glass. The snotty sense of indignation was palpable.
CummingLinguist All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 31 2016 : 11:40PM
I'm pretty sure I never saw "Resurrection of Eve". I thought I had seen "Erotic Adventures of Candy", but after checking on IMDB, I think it was a sequel "Candy Goes to Hollywood."
I vaguely remember seeing one brief MM blowjob in a MMF threesome, but I couldn't tell you the title of the movie, or even who any of the stars were.
I remember loving that movie.
john lyons
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Posted - Feb 2 2016 : 2:05PM
MEMORIES WITHIN MISS AGGIE is my favorite, hands down, with SKIN FLICKS coming in at number 2.
I'm always a sucker for depressing X rated films, and these deliver in spades. Plus, MEMORIES was written by one of the greatest screenwriters to work on X rated movies, Ron Wertheim.
 
The Wanderer All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 7 2016 : 6:54PM
Devil in Miss Jones gets my vote by a country mile, with Satisfiers of Alpha Blue a distant 2nd.
I also have a lot of time for Skin Flicks, Odyssey and People amongst others.
zyathon
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Posted - Feb 11 2016 : 6:15PM
Yeah, Let My Puppets Come is good. Worth it just to hear lovely Viju Krem say the 'c' word innocently while advertising for the vaginal deodorant! Wish she had just done a hard scene once.
It's hard to look beyond Miss Jones, just pervy in a demure setting particularly her first scene with Harry



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