I know that Private (along with Marc Dorcel) have reputations as the best euro porn on the market today. I love euro porn and wanted to know what are the BEST ALL-TIME films that both studios have put out in their history. I have heard that Private classics like PYRAMID, GIGOLO, and TATIANA are great. Any thoughts? Any other suggestions for someone new to the Private Studio Line? Same goes for the Marc Dorcel line. I know that the Laura Sainclair films are great. I also love Yasmine Lafitte's films as well. Any other suggestions?
I'm looking for Volcanic high end features. Lists on both studios would be great. Thanks!
^^^ I like the attractive women and the good quality of pictures in Private films. But I find the porn action in Private films a little a little too routine, too repetitive, and too predictable. Most women get exactly the same treatment from their horny guys. A blow job, followed by a pussy ride, then anal ride, and possibly DP at the end. Almost all Private series try to be all things to all people. And this forces porn fans with various specialized interests to fast-forward through Private films and search for the kind of sex they want to see. Which is inconvenient and a little disappointing. Because fast-forwarding through a film like that makes you feel that you've wasted a part of your money on that film. I think Private needs to separate and focus its film series into different porn genres that appeal to specific fetishes and sex interests of porn fans. That way an anal sex porn fan wouldn't have to fast-forward half-way through each scene just to see his favorite porn lady take it in her ass. And porn fans who don't like anal sex wouldn't have to fast-forward through the second half of each scene to avoid looking at the anal sex that they don't enjoy watching. And another thing Private could improve is the type of women in its films. Too many Private women are too much alike. They are all slim, trim, small-titted, white skinned, and almost no big asses. Which makes Private films unappealing for porn fans who like big tits, huge asses, and women of color.
Private has made some great stuff. I do prefer the stuff from 1997 to 2005 though. Before 97 the budget was just too low and the lighting and production was mediocre. After 2005-ish its started to look a lot like american porn and became less interesting (although there are still some gems). Marc Dorcel... I love the Russian Institute series. Would love to get some more recommendations.
The Private Life Of series are enjoyable,that is if you have a favorite girl.I remember watching the Monique Covet one years ago and loved it.Review of it here.
I recently reviewed a PRIVATE BLOCKBUSTER PACK with 4 recent films: I really liked DOWNWARD SPIRAL; JASON COLT is a slick ultra-visual porn-spy flick that lacks heat in its porn scenes; BILLIONAIRE is a dumb treaure hunt flick with good sex scenes; meanwhile, the SEXTH ELEMENT, a rip-off the Bruce Willis flick THE 5TH ELEMENT, is the dud in the bunch.
Fellas, Thanks a bunch for the feedback. I guess everbody has a particular itch that needs to be scratched. Dan- I agree wholeheartedly with the fetish niche.... JohnW- have not seen the Russin Institute series....will do so Thanks! Stinkfist- Will look into the Private life of series.....I wish american studios here in the US would do the same with their stars.... TOMBOne- thanks for your quick review of the Private packs.....DOWNWARD SPIRAL is mnow on my list to see... People have told me that the old school Private films are better than the new stuff. Although the new big budget features like the SEX CITY series and CLEOPATRA have my curiosity. Its just hard to choose. Kind of like going to a strip club and picking out which hottie you wanna go up and tip. At least there you get to see the wares before making up your mind, whereas in film, you roll the dice..... But I do appreciate your input..... keep it comin!!!!
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"I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 22 2010 : 9:01AM
Any Marc Dorcel movie with Clara Morgane. She's the queen. All though she is retired and didn't appear in that many movies, she it down right sexy. Great cock sucker, beautiful face and body and her natural tits get puffy when she is getting drilled. I especially love her movies where she wears a garter belt and black stockings. She didn't do anal but also has some great scenes with women only if that's your fancy. Check out the credits in Dorcel movies where she appears and you won't be disappointed. Edited by - trout bum on 5/22/2010 9:02:25 AM
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 3:37PM
"Sex City" was iconic lol!!! I loved the music and how they put a twist on all the sex that could have happened in "Sin City" but never came to frutition. One of the best parodies of all-time. Loved Akon's "Locked up" instrumental background music during the Jessica Alba/charater's DP sex scene with the Mickey Rourke/character and Clive Owen/character. The rape scenes were very dark and disturbing but they were true to the dark theme of the flick so they enhanced its entertainment value; Jessica Alba/character was courageous as she swallowed her pride and that of her rapist/antagonist as well. "The Tower" was the first Private flick I ever saw. Loved the mystery-murderer angle of this joint. The girls were absolutely gorgeuos especially the protagonist blonde woman who meet up with the killer at in the very last scene. "Bitches" was the first movie I rented when I returned from Lackland AFB, TX in summer 2001. It was a smoker as was the sequel Bitches II, great sex with European women and the added element of IR sex amplified the intensity of it IMHO
Trout I checked out Clara Morgane......WOW!!!!!! She is freakin HOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!! will definitely look more into her....WOW!!!! and here I had always thought Laure Sainclair was the hottest french pornstar.... Funny, I did not know who Clara was when I woke up this morning, now I'll go to sleep tonight thinking about her LOL!!! I guess you learn something new everyday....Thanks! Herschel- will check out the TOWER as well.....heard it was one of the best early releases from Private, and that SEX CITY was truly gritty, true to the Miller comics. Thanks for the info!
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oldboi Deactivated User
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Posted - May 26 2010 : 8:00PM
Russian Institute can't be beat. I haven't made it through all, so I don't know if they drop off, but the first three rock. Sex City is the best Private series. Also, there is a great Silvia Saint boxset collection that came out some years ago. Pretty much her Greatest Hits. I really enjoyed those too.
Dorcel's Pornochic Series is quite nice too. I'm glad that they're giving much attention to Jade Laroche. They just teamed her up with Julia Ann for Jade's latest effort, and it's a really good one.
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Jun 2 2010 : 4:41PM
The Private and Marc Dorcel lines offer great technical quality and a good balance of the eroticism of features and much of the extreme hardcore sex of gonzo. I just wish I was better able to identify the pornstars in each DVD.
but what do I know, I'm just the 800-pound Gorilla in the room......woohoo!!!!!!
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I'm walkin' here........ 1032 Posts 6/10
Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 4:15PM
I've purchased a few DVD of Mr. Dorcel only because the women are very attactive and hosiery.Don't think too much of the overused male talent. Mr Dorcel likes to "showcase" the female talent in very spicy lingerie and silky smooth hosiery, which I'm very partial too. wish more directors paid attention to outfits. JJ makes an attempt but he's into fishnets which don't do it for me. I like gals clad in RTH hose or sheer to waist pantyhose or as a last resort Thigh Highs.. I don't have a leg/foot fetish, I just like how the hoseiry looks.
Check out any Marc Dorcel movie with Priscila Sol in it. Yowza! She did a few Pornochic movies and a Russian Institute. Especially look for "Premieres Jouissances". It has what is probably my favorite porn scene I've ever seen where Priscila first gets banged on top of a car in the rain and then they go into a warehouse were the guy oils her up and bangs her some more. The stuff of legends! Also look out for Simony Diamond, Liliane Tiger, Sharka Blue, Silvia Laurent, Silvia Saint, Veronica da Souza, Meridian, Sonia Red (She was in Sex City), Angel Dark, Michelle Wild, and Alexa May. I watch a lot of Europorn because I tend to go for looks over performance and I have to agree with the criticism that Private and Dorcel movies lack heat in the sex department. The girls are great looking, but most are there for the paycheck. Most of it is really repeatitive, too. It's almost always a bunch of rich people dressed up and fucking in a mansion or fucking on a yaught. I mean that literally. Almost every European porno I've ever seen was a bunch of rich people fucking in a mansion or fucking on a yaught. Another problem is in plot-driven porn, the acting is even more atrocious than American porn, especially with the bad accents. They don't even try. Also, all of the guys look like Bond villians. There's some great movies to be found, though. The latest Private movie I saw was Ponolympics: The Anal Games which was a lot of fun. I second (or third is it?) the Russian Institute recommendation. It gets repetitive after a while, because it's really just girls in the same schoolgirl outfit. The ealy ones are great because there is a real sense of naughtyness about them. Girls sneaking out at night and getting laid and banging their teachers and such. It's fun. After a while, they start to become more like regular pornos, though and kind of lose the naughtyness. Hot girls, though!
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"I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10
Posted - Jun 5 2010 : 6:36PM
When you talk about euro porn, I think you need to throw Viv Thomas into the mix. I think he is the master of the camera when it comes to the way he captures scenes from different angles. His women are luscious and for the most part very natural looking. You don't see a lot of over stuffed fake breasts and caked on makeup. From I have seen he shoots mostly G/G but the B/G I have watched are excellent quality. His movies are very erotic and he doesn't demean his women and treats them more as goddesses. Definitely a big turn on. I especially love his behind the scenes stuff. It more like a big happy family.
The best euro porn I've seen was shot by Private during the late 90s early 2000's. Most of them were shot by Pierre Woodman and some others were directed by Kovi, Frank Thring, and Tanya Hyde. Here is a list of some of them all considered classics ... . Cape Town 1-2 (Woodman) . Dangerous Things 1-2 (Woodman) . Eternal Ecstasy (Kovi) . Fatal Orchid 1-2 (Woodman) . Fugitive 1-2 (Woodman) . Gigolo 1-2 (Woodman) . Hells Belles (Frank Thring) . Indecency 1-2 (Woodman) . Riviera 1-2 (Woodman) . Rubber Kiss (Frank Thring) . Sex Therapy 1-2 (Woodman) . Splendor Of Hell (Kovi) . Sweet Lady 1-2 (Woodman) . Tanya Hyde's Rubberfuckers Rule (Tanya Hyde) . Tatiana 1-3 (Woodman) . That's Life 1-2 (Woodman) . Tower 1-3 (Woodman) There are some others Private classics I surely missed like Pyramid series. Woodman's movies were usually shot in exotic locations and always featured hot woman doing nasty scenes. You could tell they invested a lot of money in those movies. Some of the others listed above had expensive sets and props also. I think since then Private went thru some financial problems. The movies they produce now haven't really matched the quality of the stuff they shot back then. I haven't seen many Dorcel movies. The few I've seen usually have nice looking euro babes having sex in mansion with rich dudes. The sex isn't that hot. If you know any classics please post.
I have a thing for girls in stockings and garter belts. I hate self-jerking in movies. I love it when a girl finishes the job and strokes the man to completion. The Pornochic series from Marc Dorcel has the largest amount of girls in hot lingerie and girls stroking the guy to completion.
i don't understand the concept of a good porn film. Are you watching it for the script and acting? ..but for Private , the best are pre 2006. (in the last year or two it's becoming far too Americanized for me (both in style and acress pool) I'd recommend the Black Label, Pirate Fetish Machine or Matador series if you're looking for hot stuff. Agree with the Russian Institute series (i'd say Harmony are putting out similar stuff with the Young Harlots series) Marc Dorcel tend to use condoms a bit, so be wary of that if its not your bag.
Usually not, but I have seen good feature movies with a good story and good acting and it can really enhance a movie when it works. Instead of just people banging each other, there's more to it. I've seen movies about adultery or incest or an older guy feeling guilty about wanting to bang a young girl or losers getting the hot babe in the end and when it works it can make a scene a lot hotter. Also, good comedies are a lot of fun. I've never really seen any of that in European porn, though, mainly due to the fact that most of the actors in Europorn can't speak English for shit. For Europorn, I mainly look for really good costumes and really hot babes. I mainly look for that in all porn, but if a movie has a good plot to it, then that's a real bonus.
I have always known Private had lots of potential. In the days when I was renting tons of porn in the late 90s and early 2000s, I rented a few Private flicks and found that while the video quality was generally really good, they just weren't doing it for me. I have since seen some outstanding stuff by Private. But what I wonder is why it's so uneven? And what caused them to change so drastically after 2005? Some of their older stuff is some of the best porn I've ever seen. And that's in terms of just the visuals without considering they make an attempt at a script. Why in the world would they want to dumb that down and make it look like anything you could get from any standard American studio?
Yep, I agree the later Private stuff looks a lot more like American porn. That's not necessarily bad, but there was something really great about their stuff from the late 90s and early 00s that I just don't see any more.
I too have a fondness for Private films from ten or 15 years ago. The Gigolo had a scene in it that was probably the roughest anal pounding I'd ever witnessed: Gabrielle (Scream) took it so hard that the two twin beds pushed together kept separating. It was an amazing thing to see before gonzo took over entirely. Arrowhead also had rare anal scenes if memory serves: Melissa Hill and maybe even Anita Blond. Good shit.
there are some extreme movies for marc dorcel or private?? i don't think so... i watched the adult channels like private spice, xxl, dorcel and more... ( broadcasting in europe). i spent time when i watch like this soft movies; so i advice a fans of the extreme themes ( deepthroating; pissing, squirting, slapping...) to stay away from this studios.
Just saw the GIGOLO last week. You are right! That was a helluva film by Private. Nice storyline and Tania Russof was divine! Heard that the PYRAMID was a great Private film too (from the early stuff) and I'm looking forward to checking that out as well. I agree with alot of the opinions here. Early Private stuff better than alot of the current product they are putting out. As for Dorcel, I love the exotic location shoots and the lingerie on the girls. They just have a way of making classy porn and continue to be one of my favorite porn studios.
I like some pretty hardcore stuff too but not at the expense of any attempt at good lighting, set design and camera work (AKA Atmosphere or ambiance). And of course, some attempt to make the characters seem human can only help unless you find robot sex to be an appealing fantasy. Private really used to do ambiance well and that was one thing that really set their stuff apart from a lot of other hardcore. Edited by - randomprecision on 7/8/2010 9:42:23 PM
When I first encountered Private movies (starting with Pyramid, Tatiana, Gladiator) I thought I had found heaven. Incredibly beautiful women (without the emphasis on grotesque boob jobs so prevalent in American porn), tremendous production values and art design, sumptuous sets and settings, just a really great look to the movies. But, they rather quickly began to pall. Far too often, the sex scenes feel mechanical and formulaic, often lacking real heat (a failing exaggerated by the pervasive, passion-destroying practice of having the women stare at the camera, a poisonous factor I have lamented before). Each scene follows the same script, frequently with a feel of the performers phoning it in. Not always, of course; there are plenty of hot moments. But, too many scenes just seemed impersonal, perfunctory. One other somewhat annoying quality: I like feature films, and especially films in which the sex arises naturally from the plot, not just as an add-on. So many Private films are two or three movie extravaganzas when there is enough plot for one at the most. As a result, the sex gets thrown in as filler to stretch things out -- hot, but extraneous to the plot. So okay, most viewers just want the sex and don't much care how well it fits into the story; I'm just fussy (and a bit deranged) in this matter.
I think the problem with the sex in Europorn is that most of the girls are just there for the money. They look great, but they just want to go in, do their scene, get their cash and get the hell out. There's a few exceptions, of course, but most of them just don't seem like they want to be their at all. I still watch them, though!
I understand what you mean but I find it hard to fault the older ones so many have praised for these minor failings. They are so far and away above a lot of stuff that really isn't even worth the time to watch it. If only every pornographer put at least that much effort into his/her flicks. Maybe you're a great writer/conceptualist (In which case, you should be working for a porn company somewhere if you aren't already) but if you never have, you should try and write a really good sex story that doesn't get too bogged down with mundane plot details or too taken over by the plain mechanics and generalities of raunchy sex. It's not as easy as you might think. If you have a willing wife or a girlfriend and a decent camcorder, try making a sex tape that you would actually watch if you were someone else. It's very hard.
The Tower series is considered Private's best effort by many people. Unfortunately, the movies were edited for DVD, but they are still pretty good. Fashion has a great line up of beauties. The Amanda's Diary series is good if you're looking for sex that's a little on the softer side. Of course, there are the Private Life of.., compilations if you have a favorite actress. As for Marc Dorcel, I'm not sure if these are still available, but they are definitely worth a try: Alexia & Cie (Dirty Deals) Angel's Contract Délires Obscènes London Nights Offertes a Tout 7 The Maze The Nurse's Diary
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 2:45AM
Pyramid, Sex City, Tatiana, Porn Wars, Gladiator, Cleopatra, Scottish Loveknot, Dangerous Things, Uranus Experiment, Reporter, and absolutely anything with Michelle Wild in it. They are also well known for various arousing stunts, like sex in public under the Eiffel Tower, in front of Ayers Rock, and on top on mountains. I think these scenes are all compiled in the "Sex in Dangerous Places" dvd. I always love how Private is prepared to throw a lot of money into their porn. It may not always have the most arousing sex scenes, but you got to respect the efforts in plot, clothing, settings and flash cars! For a long time I figured Private would be the first studio to lure a top mainstream actress (European, of course) into a big-budget porn movie. I am still waiting for that to happen. Marc Dorcel also makes expensive, pretty, porn - but the use of condoms does distract from the plot/fantasy a bit at times.
I used to love Private and Marc Dorcel when I was a horny teenager - that means I loved that style til 2002 when both companies went all glamour and high polish. Before that they used to have people who looked a bit more natural and the scenes were a lot hotter and energetic - the girls and boys in the scenes seemed to enjoy themsevels more and have more freedom on the set. Also the scenes were longer and less heavily edited and cut. After 2002 they started to do that glamour thing and from then on the scenes started to look as of the regisseur called "Cut" every 30 seconds and then a host of hairdressers and make-up artists move onto the set to remove every drop of sweat and airbrush every little bit of lube or body fluid. Both studios still have incredibly hot girls - also I love the expensive looking settings and the lingerie, but it seems as if the regisseurs have forgotten how to put some steamy and wild sex in between all the glamour.
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