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Jaggers
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140 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 10:53AM
There is such a disparity in bestsellers, ratings, and reviews. I have checked the top 10/100 DVDs at 10 sites and they are different....and change during the day.
Saki
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2087 Posts
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Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 10:57AM
I'm not sure what your point is.

Bestsellers are site specific--it depends on what that site's customers are buying. And the frequency and accuracy of the information depends on how the retailer calculates the figures.

Ratings and reviews are either done by staff or customers or comes from media sources. In all cases, they're done by humans (or monkeys, depending on your perspective), which mean that not everyone is going to like the same thing.

I would really be scared if all the lists agreed...

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Jaggers
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140 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 11:38AM
There should be a database for sales, at least. But with some sites not even listing or reviewing many companies products, such as Sineplex, Lethal Hardcore, Anime, Anything Rough even from PXP, e.g., "I Like It Rough". I Like it Rough is available at Tower Records along with anything legal in the US.
DenverDon
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Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 3:06PM
It woud be unrealistic to expect some sort of database as you are thinking of. Many companies will list their 'best seller' but will not give out the exact figures for many reasons.

Besides, what does 'best seller' mean? Just that there are lots of viewers that like that particular series or type of movie. I think that reviews would be more valuable since they describe what is contained in the movie, stars, action, etc. You would have to get somewhat familiar with a reviewer so you know if what that reviewer likes, and rates a movie high, matches your own tastes. If a fisting movie sold 1 million copies, for example, but you don't like fisting scenes - then sales volume is meaningless.

Edited by - DenverDon on 7/10/2004 3:06:42 PM

Jaggers
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140 Posts
9/03
Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 3:24PM
Reviewers codes of ethics, etc., are not objective, they are personal censorship. Two examples: 1) A movie is rated by 3 different people on your site and gets 3.5 to 5 stars. In one case a female viewer is rating high for female preferences, in another case, low. Then there are the reviewers who rate everything low or everything high. So, like you say, knowing your reviewer and supplier are important. CAVR for example is worthless unless you see the scene ratings. That reviewer rates WOAD 3 as an 8.5, and therefore his whole site is affected since his new policies against certain practices. Since these new policies went into effect mid-stream, older, bland fare is rated more highly than the top Gonzo films.
 
Saki
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Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 4:02PM
I still have no idea what you're expecting. It sounds like you want everyone to review using the same criteria and you want that criteria to be relevant to what you like.

There is no such thing as a universal standard of what constitutes good porn. Enjoyment of erotica is a subjective thing. Even if 9 out of 10 people agree on something, that 1 person out of 10 will be bitching about it.

Can you give us an example of a review of *anything* (not just porn) where there's the consistency and "fairness" that you're describing?

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Posted - Jul 10 2004 : 4:02PM
You have completely lost me Jaggers. Personal censorship? When has a reviewer ever censored an adult film. Maybe the reviewer in question liked the 'older bland fare' more than the 'top gonzo films'. It sounds to me like you just have a beef with some reviewer over something.

A review will always have bias to it as porn is a very subjective work. How can one rate something they didn't like high? Why should sales rankings effect a reviewer's opinion? As DenverDon said you have to get to know each reviewer. Look up some titles that you liked and see who agreed and look up some titles that you didn't like and see who agreed and stick with those reviewers. If you are reading a review from a reviewer that has different tastes than you do then there is a good chance you won't agree with them. But I wouldn't start putting in words like 'personal censorship' and 'codes of ethics' like reviewers are against and trying to get rid of films that you like.

poundhard
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12/08
Posted - Dec 30 2008 : 3:02AM
for hollywood movies there are box office numbers. is there anything like this for adult movies like dvd selling numbers?
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