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BDD
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116 Posts
12/09
Posted - Sep 8 2019 : 3:25PM
Wouldn't it be terrific if more guys writing XXX plots could think about whether or not "it could happen"? If their unsure take a poll in the office, as buddies...sober...

As I mentioned in another thread of mine..there was this video with Candice Dare..the scene starts off with her in her home..getting naked, slips into the tub and starts soaping up, finishes gets out. Gets dressed. PERV watches home from on top a hill overlooking her backyard (no way he could have seen a thing so why bother have that shot?)...he then some how manages to find his way into her home like a ninja...she does't hear him break in (did he slip in through an unlocked sliding door?)...he gets naked and uses the same tub. She does't hear him run the water or any sounds. Then in the next scene he comes from behind her and puts a stretched out stocking between her lips (she could still scream and should have been in terror)..Instead, as in all XXX of this genre, she gives in and they have hot sex. She enjoys it. <---I I don't think so do you?? :)

I think most of us could come up with simple "it could happen plots.

...strip poker after drinking a little wine at dinner time..vaguely buzzed the XXX chic characters would be more open to the game which will lead to the orgy.
..sleepwalking step-sister or step-mom..sleep walks naked, climbs into bed of step-son..thinks it's her husband or BF..and...sex begins...she keeps eyes closed...finishes the scene with her going to sleep.
...hot woman in hotel steps out of shower in towel...looks for her phone..doesn't see it...wonders if she could have dropped it in the hall...opens door..steps out...as she does the towel gets snagged in the bolt, door slams shut pulling the towel off her body...leaving h er naked in the hall...only a tiny piece of the towel is visible in the hinge of the door...hot guy comes walking down the hall...etc. Or GUYS...

draghixafan
Senior Member

Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
2378 Posts
7/09
Posted - Sep 9 2019 : 5:53PM
Was a great scene have to see if I can remember the title but was a teenage daughter and Mom arguing in the kitchen about something and the Mom storms off, so then the daughter puts on her Mom's pink wig and sneaks into her sleeping stepdads bed and he fucks her in the ass while half asleep, was very hot.
BDD
Member

116 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jan 5 2020 : 1:07PM
Again..those were obviously MY own thoughts. What I'd like to see done.

Writing has come a long way from the "golden era" (70's, 80's XXX)..they ARE trying to do better. But what remains are ideas that make no sense (to me).

What makes a good mainstream film worth watching (or one of) is showing vulnerability of the characters. It was IMHO part of what made the original Magnum PI character personable. Worth watching. Original. In a time where all the male leads were "1 man against armies invincible types". They should do the same in XXX TODAY.

By that I mean instead of giving in so quick show some resistance. If we take the FTV Girls videos...some known XXX chics some new...they're too willing to get naked in public. Knowing that area where they filmed had no traffic before hand. Why not make them "act" like they were actually afraid to get caught?? How are we to know if that area wasn't only quiet for those 2 minutes? They could have pre-recorded sounds of people in the area...had friends make sounds in the background....etc. Have the XXX chic act like she saw some one and quickly pull her panties back on.

Or when filming "step-sis" type videos...have the chic act against the idea at first. Have the bro try 2 or 3 times first...no luck...change the dialogue (e.g. no experienced XXX chick talk..). Have her cover her mouth when acting like the parents were still "in the house". Or in a nearby room. Do things like that to create some heat. Not hard Doesn't have to be complicated. Just requires some thought by some one who can kind of write...has a decent grasp of reality. HEH...

e.g. sleep walking nude step-sis
e.g. hot babe in a rush to go to work...forgets to put on panties and a skirt, rushes out of home (or hotel room)...forgets keys inside..door slams shut...hot guy walks down sidewalk or hotel hall..etc.
e.g. semi-clothed sex in a library..cover hot babe's mouth while fucking, while she sort of keeps trying to push him off not wanting to be caught...splice in footage of people walking around near by...
e.g. sex in a grocery store...BF convinces GF to bend over cart...hand cuffs her to cart...pulls down her yoga pants and panties..EXPOSED..he walks away...he's panicking, nothing she can do to cover up...etc.(get permission to film after hours) :)

In general...plots today...the female characters are still just too willing to give in. Have some lead lead up. Some tease. Get the audience eager for the action..

BDD
Member

116 Posts
12/09
Posted - Apr 22 2020 : 1:08PM
WRITING. It's getting better (TUSHY, BLACKED, BLACKEDRAW...etc.). They have the concept. Start off on the right track. Story makes sense and the acting is good enough to sell the intro..then suddenly the story stops making any sense. The girl starts talking like a "porn chick" (e.g. "oh daddy", "O GOD!! So BIG..take me deep..etc.") Things a "step-daughter" wouldn't say.

When they try more violent themed videos (e.g. creep watches hottie bath and breaks in--he should have his face at the window and at least bring a tool to break in...not have the sliding door unlocked..lazy writing)...

...sex with a 3rd person in the room (e.g. "mother"). As if the "mother wouldn't hear a pin drop. :) Girl is moaning too loud. Mouth isn't at least covered the entire time. Not even the TV is on or a stereo. Could be hot if done properly.
...they've attempted gang #ape" scenes...girl walks into mens public bathroom by mistake...wants to leave...can't..forced to give BJ's and be DP'd...looks upset for a few seconds then MAGICALLY she's into it....shed have to act like she's struggling the entire time...make fake tears (raw onion)...Cory Chase (porn actress) has directed a few videos where sex is forced...has dialogue that makes sense...

They could keep the writing simple. Just needs to make sense. Be possible.

Have enough lead up to the sex...a few scenes of tease...few seconds each time...THEN the sex.

Public sex..why don't the splice in video/audio taken from another day where that area is busy? But film when it's dead...so they don't get caught. Take also audio from that recording when it was busy. Adds that element of danger...of getting caught...making this kind of video hot. At the end have some guys pretend to catch them (fake security guard...can rent uniform)..or just have a few friends act like Joe Public..."I'm going to call the police!! YOU GUYS CAN"T DO THAT HERE"...have a mother with a kid..ask the kid to point and giggle...filmed at another day...porn chick fully clothed of course. FTV company.

Odd no XXX company has used the LOVENSE LUSH 2 bluetooth/app toy (controls vibrations of toy form phone or tablet). Potentially very hot. Easy to pretend the toy is in.

Include "massive load creampies"...e.g. CUM4U..guy supposedly had so much it kept flowing out of her pussy and down her thighs as he fucked her for a few minutes. Faked? If the dude can't not jerk off for a week and only has a few drops...could always squirt some white liquid inside...lube perhaps...they do it for anal sex...using a syringe. Could do that for creampie shot in the vag or ass. No risk of getting her pregnant either...

I've mentioned some of this before but...guess I'm hoping porn companies read this...make changes...

Chicks like Adriana Chechik..she does it all...anal, squirts, gapes...film it "flowing down her thighs without wiping it away immediately...messy can be good...some like that...and i think was the idea. Porn dudes these days jerk-off too much. Go to work without enough of a load to cover the face of the chick...it's like porn dudes from the 70's to early 90's had more..heh...

BDD
Member

116 Posts
12/09
Posted - May 19 2020 : 10:20AM
Other things I'd love to see done include...

..have the chick sync her moans/screams to each thrust. As much as she can. Would that not make the scene hotter?
...when he thrusts her whole body should move in that same direction--is done in the rare video...done more in mainstream fake sex scenes.
...if the scene is about the guy "dominating" then the positions used can't include "Cow girl" (she's be in control), BJ's--he should hold onto her head acting like he's pulling her face onto his cock never letting go till the end..even when he cums...hold on to her head...ACT! :)
..."public humiliation" videos--have her act like she's SUPER embarrassed/upset...is trying to break free and run away...could make her eye liner run faking tears+dialogue to go with that makes sense...most of the time the girls are too willing...which takes away from the "heat". The whole idea of "public sex" is the embarrassment of being seen or arrested. Have her act afraid...could easily use porn film crew as the "disapproving public"...pointing and laughing. Have one or two wear security guard uniforms. add some drama to it...like they were scene so they have to quickly run and manage to esc...

Script the sex positions. Positions that would apply to that scene.

Require the girls get a tan...workout a little if they're obviously out of shape...

Stop the "XXX chick talk" if it doesn't go with the story...if there is a plot...i mean unless she's playing a stripper...she shouldn't talk like she's one...

 
af369
Member

144 Posts
9/09
Posted - May 19 2020 : 1:45PM
I agree with everything you say. It's a shame really, that it has come to this. Either there is no script at all (the massively popular "post-gonzo" genre, where everything we see is people having sex) or the setups are pathetically thin and unbelievable. It really kills the potential edge and sexiness, at least for me. Hot sex featuring hot women is wasted on bad scenes.
Zingerbrook
Member

579 Posts
3/17
Posted - May 19 2020 : 7:23PM
I agree with most everything here. I think there are some who do a better job. Bellisa Films for instance. Then there is that overly 'camp' style we have in the US, and it just serves to airbrush a lot of the plotting (and makes things way worse, imo). I do like the 'post-gonzo' / just-sex movies, but I see those as a different kind of porn film entirely. With good performers, it is like watching dancers on a stage (as opposed to a actors in a theater).
a9nostic
Senior Member

1056 Posts
8/08
Posted - May 21 2020 : 7:42PM
What makes you think the average writer in porn, even when there is one, would have a particular talent for writing at all? Most of the writers for media where the writing is actually important don't have any great talent for writing, so why would you expect porn writers to care, or even think about verisimilitude?
Slector
Member

655 Posts
2/14
Posted - May 22 2020 : 4:22PM
Wait, what? There are writers for porn?

I want to be one of those guys that writes the closed captions for porn.

"Uh uh, yeah oh baby! Like that! Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God!! Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck! Oh shit oh shit oh shit!! Yeah yeah yeah yeah!! Ohh ooh ooh ooh!! mmmm mmmm mmm! Just like that!"

Those are certainly good scripts.

BDD
Member

116 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jun 14 2020 : 1:06PM
Why not have an "Live chat" on YouTube or Twitter. Open to the public. Talk to the "directors". Hear directly from fans. Cheap/fast.

Many have Twitter channels. Can mention things to the girls direct. :)

Ya know...Porn companies should hold contests...winner gets to be a "director for a video"...gets to pick 2 female stars of his choice and which guys NOT to be there...if it's okay with the pornstar chick.

Not hard to elevate the quality of porn with simple acting techniques to make a scene so much hotter...in addition to syncing the moans/screams to each thrust...they could do things like:

...drop their jaws lower the deeper he goes...Have the camera go to her hands as she grabs a fist full of bed sheets--as he penetrates...anything to tell us what's going on "to her" w/o actually seeing a close-up. Like they do in mainstream film. Have her learn to quiver--then lift her hips in the air--pause...then cream if she can. If she can't...fake it...inject lube used for anal in her vag...or ass...there's usually more than enough to fake a lot of "cream" or the guy's jizz...we have the tech!! Not expensive at all...to create the illusion.

Ive mentioned it before...why not use makeup for so-called "rough sex" scenes? I mean they ARE going for that idea...you see some guys actually slap the girls I think a little too hard. ..or it's so light you can tell it's pointless...for the look...talking about slaps--could fake that too...using the right camera angle..they could be 2 feet apart...and STILL make it look like he slapped her HARD w/o actually touching her--even better for her no? I think she would prefer not being touched or "play slapped" as accidents can happen.

Spray bottle--fake sweat. Who doesn't sweat when fucking?? Raise hands...or simply don't wipe away the sweat...

For cum shots when the guy's supply is empty...can put a tube on the side of his body/dick not visible to the camera lens...faking a QUART of cum :) Would that not be hot?? Instead of a scene where there's the buildup...only to be let down by some porn dude with a dry sack...empty...And they still hire guys like that these days..heh..

I think in general porn companies are lazy. Mostly want to get in and get it down fast. Not into prep....directing--which would make the shoot take longer...yet get a better product. Imagine seeing Top Gun with no director...no real plot...etc.

Edited by - BDD on 6/17/2020 1:35:50 PM

jacky456
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3 Posts
9/22
Posted - Sep 21 2022 : 11:36PM

Edited by - Drew Black on 9/22/2022 7:13:48 AM




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