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I was wondering if there were any titles that had str8 men engaging in semi or total bisex in str8 porn. This really turns me on, and I have seen a few titles that have semi bi content, but was wondering if there were more titles like this. Any help would be great! **Bi sex meaning 2 guys engaging in sexual contact** Thankxxx!
I never saw any films like this. I know they exist, but they are very few in number. VERY FEW.
Society refuses to let a man enjoy men and women simultaneously. It's either all gay or all straight.
Straight gangbangs, double vaginal/anal and double penetration help to fulfill straight men's gay fantasies, but for some this is not enough. They are chasing a film which has no kissing/anal penetration/oral sex between the male actors, but something more "gay" than straight gangbangs, double penetration etc.......
Are you looking for a "semi-bisexual" movie (between a straight gangbang [including straight DP, DV, DA scenes] AND a true bisexual movie)?
I've heard of a few films made in Europe where two straight men subtley express their sexual desire for one another as well as lightly massage/touch each other (no kissing or overt signs of intimacy. The most sexually satisfying characteristic of these films is when a male actor touches another man's cock (similar to a handjob) during vaginal penetration. I reckon the male can lube the other actor's dick before penetration and help slide it in the vagina. I understand that it does not appear full-on gay. In other words, one can still picture these men as heterosexual without seeing them as full-on bisexual/gay. All male-to-male interaction is done in a way that still allows you to view these men as straight. This is debatable, but I'm only giving my personal assessment (I've never seen any of these films).
All this said, I've never seen these "semi-bisexual" videos. Do a search on this website. That's where I read about them. The films are European, and I suspect very few videos of this nature have been made.
The films are not full-on bisexual, but rather straight in nature with more overt admission of male-to-male desire on the part of the straight male actors.
Sounds like a raging hard-on film to me, although I've only read about them.
A search on this website will pull up the thread which discusses "semi-bisexual" films. I reckon the title of a few are mentioned. I forget which forum it appears in(it may be "Porn Pool").
Interesting topic. I see this as a very lucrative sub-genre that has yet to be properly exploited. Straight stars in bi or semi-bi scenes. Audiences want it. Though they may not know they want it. Frankly, I think the stars want it too. Though they may not want to admit that they want it.
Gangbangs, dps, daps - are really just male-to-male sex that use a female as a surrogate or separation device.
I think there are lots of visionary directors and stars at the tipping point - they just need a little push to send them over the edge. Silvera with his rogue adventures, nacho, rocco, alberto rey ....
Why do we need this ? Because porn is getting boring. Same old - same old. We need a little of the forbidden - the verbotten - to spice things up a bit.
A truly straight male is not bi-sexual. There are many male pornstars who will not do DAP & DVP because of the cock-to-cock factor. Some males like ass play-like Rocco, Tom Byron, maybe Nacho, and then there is Kurt Lockwood with his strap-on scene. BUt all this ass play involves a female, no other males.
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7 Posts 2/06
Posted - Apr 1 2006 : 10:50PM
AztecGold,
However, if you pay some straight guys extra money, they will have no problem engaging in same-sex activity, whether it's touching or licking or sucking or whatever. It's the male equivalent of the gay-for-pay female performers in the straight "side" of the industry.
Many straight porn actors engage in double penetration (some body contact between two men), rub dicks together or have their dicks rubbed together over a female performer's mouth during multiple-dick blowjobs, watch dozens of other men jack off in gangbang scenes, and, last but not least, engage in double vaginal/anal sex. Many (not all) do engage in DA and DV. A very straight pornstar, Mark Davis, has engaged in double anal and double vaginal sex. I've seen him do it on a few occasions. By the way, Mark Davis is very naturally heterosexual.
Interestingly, Colt Steele is one of the straight male pornstars whom I've never seen engage in any DP, DV, DA or gangbangs. In fact, I've never seen him in any multiple-male scenes. Well...yes, I've seen him fuck a woman while Hershel Savage looked on. I don't remember if Hershel participated directly in the scene. Anyways, he seems to avoid any multiple-male scene intentionally. I'm not sure why. He could be highly homophobic, and consequently, fears any kind any behavior deemed subtley homosexual in nature. Of all the male stars in straight porn, Colt Steele is the only one I can think of offhand who strays away from multiple-male scenes. If he has done any, I am completely unaware of them.
At any rate, if straight male stars can rubs dicks together over a woman's mouth, do DP and DV scenes, as well as watch tons of other dudes jack off during a gangbang, I'd think a "semi-bisexual" film is right up their alley.
Also, *Screw my wife/girlfriend* fetish is another "latent homosexual" desire of many straight men. In this fetish, a man is looking for a big-dicked stud to fuck his wife/girlfriend. Is that not just a bit "gay" in nature?
I believe most men--even the straightest among us--subconsciously lust over "sexy big-dicked studs." That's why most men are horrificly petrified of homosexuality. The desire is masked with fear and denial.
That said, I'm not saying most men are gay. I'm saying that most men have potential to be turned on by another men (latent desire). That's very obvious in straight porn.
Gangbangs should not be grouped with DAP & DVP--as there is no male to male contact. In the gangbangs I've seen, I have never seen one male staring at another males "equipment".
The Gay-For-Pay males I have heard mentioned are Peter North (a long time ago)..and Talon [maybe?] (went by the name Lex Baldwin).
No "direct" staring. But, all the boys are undoubtedly "sizing up" the other boys. You are fooling yourself if you think that male stars in gangbangs are "checking" to see the packages of the other males.
In male-multiple scenes, actors sometimes mention the size of another man's dick ("wow, look at his big fucker!" ; "can you (she) take it all"?
There is definitely homosexual undertones in gangbang scenes (some other scene genres as well.
I've seen plenty of incidental (or not) contact in gangbangs. Even during a standard DP, there are times when a cock will slip out of a pussy or asshole and it'll brush up against another guy's cock or balls. I've seen guys get splattered with other guys' cum, too. I've even seen fairly overt things like a guy playfully slapping at another guy's cock with his own tool.
Unless I heard wrong Lex Baldwin IS Talon. He is TT Boy's brother and only worked on gay side a short time. TT did not speak to him for years because of the gay-for-pay thing.
PS: OOPS we posted at the same time. I also read that he mostly "stood around" in his few gay movies. I seached for titles for the "Lex" name and only found one.
I have loved watching Talon so its nice to know he did some gay porn.
Go to Smutjunkies.com and drop down to the B's. click on Lex Baldwin and it will pull up all of his films. You can also go to catalinavideo.com and find all of his Catalina films, which is mostly the company he worked for. Good luck finding his videos tho. Most are VHS if you can find them. Also, take note that several of them are compilation videos so two or three of them may contain the same scenes of him. I am just amazed that Talon is as old as he is. The dude was born in 1969, but doesn't look it. TT Boy is only one year older. Intersting that I first learned of Talon watching him in one of TT's productions.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. It seems to be possible to find just about any kind of fetish porn out there, but no good bi movies. With "good" I mean filmed with a reasonable budget, good looking professional actors and a good director. This is the only aspect of my sexuality I haven't been able to explore to any meaningful degree by looking at porn... Ironic, huh?
Hi all.. newbie to the forum and somewhat new to all the gay movies, names, stars etc. I remember years ago coming across a movie called 'Checkmate' and it was basically about two couples swapping but the series of scenes went straight sex (each couple) then lesbian sex with the girls then a 'double penetration' which is somewhat 'bisexual' although was more 'incidental cock-to-cock action'. finally the two guys have a full m-2-m scene.
The finale: a two couple orgy with 'everything goes' happening.
I think it was 'checkmate' but i cant recall for sure.
We'll be looking for it Alberto. Thanks for the tip. In case you haven't seen Jules Jordan's Feeding Frenzy series, (formerly Evel Angel) he has some great shots of guys jacking while the group gets blown by one starlett. Check out Feeding Frenzy 2 with Jessica Darlin sitting underneath the guys, sucking balls while they jack. Wow! Hot, hot. Not quite a bi-boys film, but Jules encroaches on it. Like someone wrote above, pursuing the bi-sexual melieu is a sub-genra waiting to be discovered. The only bi films I've seen are all the same... 2guys, one girl, boring sex. Show us some scenes with 4 to 5 guys, some cock2cock in one girls mouth. Tight shots of guys coming together in her mouth/face... I don't think Jules is going much farther with his formula, but as a formula goes, its the best around. But, for sure, well check out your version Alberto.
They will not! If we are talking about straight male porn stars well established in the industry. Here in Hungary since many years few male performers well known for performing in gay movies too were sometimes working with us on the same shooting. It was let's say tolerate. After July 2005 and the HIV out break they are no longer accepted. If you're a straight male performer and you're involved in any gay or bi sex video film you're just ruining your career cause nobody will hire you anymore as the male performers will not accept to work next to you in any production !
Omar Galanti in Rocco's Trans Obsession series is showing us the future in this sub-genre.
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26 Posts 4/07
Posted - Dec 7 2007 : 10:40AM
I think the concept of bisexual movies is flawed. It's always two guys/one girl. Why not have two guys/two girls and girl-on-girl action mixed in with it? It would make for a more interesting movie. Also, a bisexual orgy would be nice. Men with women, men with men, women with women...no boundaries.
teh movie brazilian strap on lovers have good scenes of almost bisex, in one scene a girls rimming a guy and the other guy put the dick close to the ass of the guy who is being rimmed then she alternate and rimming and sucking the cock
It's also about certain positions too - in MMF or MMMF scenes - regular dp is ok but can be boring... Now change it to doggy style dp - and you definitely have something gay men will watch will more enthusiasm - the front guy in her ass is in a very submissive position - bent over, ass high and balls sticking out behind, then the back guy comes in to stick his cock in the girls pussy...during this position, sometimes the back guy needs to hold onto the front guys hips or waist or even butt or back to thrust forward or to get balance - its some nice quasi-bi homoerotic moments, the butt of the front guy rubbing against the stomach of the back guy - all very nice. Sometimes the back guy slaps the front guys ass. This position is rarely used in American porn (unless the girl is going for a triple), but is more common in dp movies from Europe/Italy - Giorgio Grandi and Omar Galanti are in this doggy style dp position in several of their scenes together - all very comfortable with each other. As is Marco Nero with either of these two, Mike Angelo as well. Sometimes the girl flips her heels over her head and her ass/pussy are high up - and the guys go in for more doggy dp in this position - excellent body contact between the guys, a face to face position of the guys has them rubbing legs and chests...Ive even seen Omar and Giorgio and I think Marco and Omar do an ass to ass dp while the girl was in this upside down position - lots of ass rubbing here! I know of a scene where Omar was fisting a girl's ass and Giorgio positioned himself and started doing her in the ass while Omar's hand was in there - there was abotu 30 seconds of sliding contact between them. Porn - made in America, or for Europe/Italy as well - needs to focus on developing this marginally quasi bi overtones - and dap/dvp or any triple penetrations really need to have more overt guy contact (holding hips/butt) - the Italian guys dont seem to have a problem with it - although I wish the cameramen would stretch out the camera shot so we can actually see the male-male contact/holding during doggy dp and the guys full bodies in an ass to ass or face ot face dp while she is upside down.
