it wasn't as good as i was expecting but it's still a good show.
I agree about what you said about the camera angles. The shots were often too tight. And yes, Kinzie definitely looks very different
Edited by - MASAMUNE on 2/5/2006 3:50:03 AM
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| p_ramezap Senior Member 1549 Posts 5/03 | Just finished watching this one from William H and Elegant Angel. There has been a lot of talk of Naomi and Kinzie Kenner's anal scenes in this one. So here is what I think. Kinzie is in the first scene. The kinize that I saw here though is not the same Kinzie that I had seen in Lil' Red Riding Slut or prior to that. She's got implants and is wearing heavy make up, she actually looks like Courtney Simpson a bit. So, gone is her innocent girl next door look, but you get a heavy dosage of hot ass slamming in return with lots of ATM. Great to see Kinzie start doing anal with this type of intensity, but I prefer the way she looked in LRRS. Naomi, well here is one of her first anal scenes to be released. She sure has big booty and with a dick in it, it looks nicer. she pretty much fucks van Damage with her ass and pussy, this must have been an easy pay for Van :). she does anal in doggie and cowgirl. I had a problem with the way some of these shots wear captured with bad angles. I don't know what William H was thinking but when a girl is doing anal cowgirl I rather see the shot from 4 or five feet back with the frame capturing the girl's body and ass riding the cock, not an angle shot from down between the legs of the guy. I loved the music though through out the film, If William H is reading this, let me know who mixed the beats here. Pretty cool. [Link] |
| MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | The two girls I rented it for- Kinzie Kenner-The hair? The make-up? The implants? The dirty talk? Yep, you guessed it. She's become pornified. Most of the girls eventually get here after being in the biz long enough, and sometimes I find the transition hot. With Kinzie? I might if not for the implants. Naomi-Up until her scene, I pretty much hated the film, from the music video editing and tease sequences to the tight shots with a minimum of wide shots. And the technical aspects of this one pissed me off too, but Naomi just looks so hot getting to work Van's dick and you rarely ever get to see girls do that in porn. If you've seen her BTS in Big Cocks in Her Little Box 1, you know that she claims to actually love being with guys with smaller dicks because she really knows how to "work it" without worrying about hurting herself. So, I'm glad that in her 2nd anal (we still don't know what her 1st anal was) she got to do just that. In the last two days, I watched Big Wet Asses 7 , Angels of Debauchery 5 , and Big Booty White Butts 3 for Naomi. In BWA 7 , I got music video porn. In Angels , I got a great photographer crafting a beautiful yet somewhat hollow film. In Big Booty 3 , I got people mostly enjoying themselves and having sex without paying too much attention to the cameara in their face. But I'm just one consumer. Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/5/2006 11:39:35 AM |
| Liquidnoose Member Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer 226 Posts 1/05 | As far as this quote:(((((In the last two days, I watched big wet asses 7 , Angels of Debauchery 5 , and big Booty White Butts 3 for Naomi. In BWA 7 , I got music video porn. In Angels , I got a great photographer crafting a beautiful yet somewhat hollow film. In big Booty 3 , I got people mostly enjoying themselves and having sex without paying too much attention to the cameara in their face. But I'm just one consumer.))))) I'd have to agree..I've seen AoD 5 and was dissappointed in Naomi's scene..just not much to it and "hollow" best describes that scene. People are forgetting the hot FLOWER TUCCI scene and the TIANNA LYNN Bonus scene, which totally kicked ass! |
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| bauer024 Senior Member It is what it is 1345 Posts 12/05 | |
| Tiana Lynn Elegant Angel 422 Posts 4/05 | I have to say, I can't keep my hands off her new tits, Alright I'll let you get back to the topic |
| Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05 | |
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| Twizted6 Senior Member Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined 1229 Posts 7/05 | It already had a worthy cast, Tiana made this a must-have. Other asses that should be considered for this series: Edited by - Twizted6 on 2/6/2006 7:33:58 PM |
| dicknjane Member 171 Posts 1/06 | Based on the above comments I would hazard a guess you don't do a lot of sugar coating. Soooo .... I'm not up to BWA 7 yet but do have BWA 6 in the queue ... it got the AVN Best Anal Themed Series so I thought I would try it. Please share your opinion ... Jane hates BWA and if its a dud, I might as well zap it. Thanks, dick Edited by - dicknjane on 2/6/2006 1:03:18 PM |
| flesheater Deactivated User 36 Posts 12/05 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | There are going to be different reactions to this one. For instance, from Bono's review we know that he absolutely loved the low-angle shot used by H. for the cowgirl positions whereas in this thread p_ramezap has pointed to that angle as one he had issues with. However, p_ramezap liked the music in the background of the scenes whereas Masamune didn't seem too fond of it (same for me). Plus, the bulk of my review is spent exploring the camera angles and editing in the film whereas Masamune barely references it and Bono in fact makes no mention of the editing. It's all subjective. I won't rent or buy anything directed by William H. (I do feel bad that I failed to mention his co-editor, Dick Wadd, in my review) in the future whereas others might feel even more compelled to seek out his work after seeing BWA 7. The following applies if William H's/Dick Wadd's editing was a stylistic choice instead of a means to cover-up scenes that didn't go well: While I appreciate attempting to rise above the point-and-film dynamic that is so prevelant in today's industry, William goes overboard I think. He attempts to create heat via kinetic editing, but while the style he's fighting smacks of laziness the one he's utilizing rubs me as being overly-manipulative. There was one time-compression sequence that I did find interesting though. It was during doggy anal with Georgia and Sascha when he cuts 3 times from the same angle (her head changes position each time I think) to connotate this feeling that the two of them fucked like that forever. However, how do I know that it wasn't done just because Sascha couldn't pop and he kept having to go at it which made the scene drag on forever? Through this forum, I can find out. As a random consumer, I can't. There is a certain beauty to that can be achieved with the minimalism of point-and-film. Just look at Buttman's Ass Adoro. However, the counter-argument can be made with the example of Ed Powers. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I can't think of such a comparison because whether it's Big Wet Asses 7 or one of the latest installments of Hustler's Young Latin Girls or even one of Cash Markman's Hawaii based films for Surfer Pictures, misused editing by way of being overused gets me everytime. This is not to say that I blindly see film editing and think foul because if that were the case I would have to hate all pornos not to mention other realms of film. Plus, I've seen pornos with heavy editing that utilize the function erotically, though the first one that comes to mind is a Chuck Vincent film so it's an unfair comparison. It's just that when editing is what I notice the most in porn, I'm going to be turned off. "Jane hates BWA" I haven't seen BWA 6 to be honest. Too many Euro girls for my tastes. So, I can only advise you on BWA 7, and if Jane already hates BWA I didn't see anything in #7 that would change her mind. But that's just one guy's opinion. Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/7/2006 1:16:59 PM |
| M vanHouten Member 183 Posts 3/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Really? I can see them on my computer, but since they do point to my hard-drive I guess that's to be expected. This is my first time incorporating pictures in any review. So, sorry for the mistake. I've e-mailed Steph about it after your post, and will just pull the pics for the time being. I'm still not sure if I want to incorporate pics in the future, or if I'd prefer just to link the girls' name to her corresponding page at ExcaliburFilms' Star Page (I've been thinking about doing this for a while, and I just recently noticed that Crucifixio used to do this in all of his reviews before becoming incorporating screenshots). Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/7/2006 12:49:38 PM |
| Chris73 Member 170 Posts 12/05 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | |
| William H. Nutsack The 3rd. Member 33 Posts 11/05 | Some Hate the music. Some like the camera angles others dont. You cant please everyone. This is an interesting thing about sex. What is one mans(or womans) cup of tea may be another mans cup of soupy bowel movement. To all that liked it im glad you did to all that did not, sorry it was not your thing but I do have a dvd I know you will enjoy. The William H. solo masterbation four hour stroke off! Just me in a cheap hotel POV style jacking my little cock for hours. Lots of music that I wrote. Tons of low angle shots(so you can see my balls and hairy asshole) and a grand finale of me laying on my back and cumming in my own face! THIS IS HOT STUFF! ...edited by Dick Wadd. |
| Chris73 Member 170 Posts 12/05 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Okay, I'm reluctant to say this because you have adopted the exact right attitude about this, and the issue should be closed. However, in the interest of fairness, if I singled you out in my review for editing that a separate person going by "Dick Wadd" actually did I apologize. Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/7/2006 1:30:24 PM |
| William H. Nutsack The 3rd. Member 33 Posts 11/05 | and Flowers "cellulite". |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Considering that to me "bad fake tits" is practically an oxymoron, I see your point. Most everyone else around here who has chosen to comment on it seems to like Kinzie's implants. Heck, from this very thread we know what Tiana Lynn thinks about 'em. "Flowers 'cellulite'" I debated on that one. Believe me. I took it out, put it back in, and took it out several times. I knew putting it in there might be miscontrued as being a criticism on Flower's body when in fact I think her body is perfectly fine. Plus, I'm always the one commenting in threads that I hope the industry pressure doesn't get to such-and-such girl and influence her to start losing too much weight. It simply came down to describing what I saw. I meant no ill-will with it, even pointing out as much in the review. Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/7/2006 4:33:49 PM |
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| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Don't worry. If it weren't for Crucifioxio speaking up at one point, I'd probably still be writing "ladder" when I meant "latter". And if William H. can handle my criticism, I sure as shit should be able to deal with something correcting my grammar. "bad fake tits" Yeah, since you point it out, it is more of a needless repetition than a creative use of contrasts. I guess what I should have said in that post is "good fake tits". Edited by - -Kelly- on 2/7/2006 8:31:05 PM |
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| M vanHouten Member 183 Posts 3/04 |
It has no ass worship: The camera angles restrict your view on the girl's body. There's hardly any teasing. There's no rubbing and caressing the oiled up asses. There's no slippery wet sex: The oil is quickly absorbed into the body and forms into a white waxy substance while fucking. Also, this movie has a really claustrophobic feel to it. The same tight shots from the same couch with the same background.
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| johnshaft820 Member 271 Posts 1/05 | The original concept has died out in the later editions but some of the stylistic tics remain. So now they're just visual effects without any conceptual basis, at least not one that I can identify. Apparently this bothers some viewers more than others...I'll have to check out BWA 7 to see where this one stands. |
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| Twizted6 Senior Member Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined 1229 Posts 7/05 | I really liked some of Zupko's early stuff (Days of Whore), but I felt he could have done better with this series. I've only seen #4 and I'm waiting for #7 to arrive, but I think he should have had the actors apply the oil by hand, rather than the noisy sprayer. In the future, don't just follow in Zupko's footsteps, but make this your own series. I believe there is a lot of potential for this series to be one of the best. I loves me some oiled-up asses! [:P)] By the way, just a few girls to ponder for upcumming releases: Edited by - Twizted6 on 2/9/2006 1:37:15 AM |
| Liquidnoose Member Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer 226 Posts 1/05 | I understand the criticisms but no one but me has talked about the TIANNA LYNN scene..it is one of the hottest I've seen..I love that she shows the POV camera her ass/pussy as she is blowing the guy...totally fantastic! I think someone asked what was NAOMI'S first anaa scene and I just saw the trailer for NAOMI: THERE'S ONLY ONE ont he evil angel site...it is listed as her first...and the movie looks hot...NAOMI has dissappointed me the first 2 scenes I've seen but this one looks awesome! |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Naomi's scene, and this movie, did not live up to the hype for me. I like Flower and Georgia a lot, but I've seen much more enjoyable things from them in the recent past. And as hot and beautiful as she is, I've seen about twenty Naomi scenes in the past six months, so maybe I'm getting a little sated on her. This series was good when it was new to me, (although I didn't really like the editing and frenetic style then, either), "BWA 3" and "BWA 4" had great casts, but since then the casting hasn't really excited me. I liked this cast, but the sparks just weren't there. BSD Edited by - BSD on 2/9/2006 8:32:23 PM |
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| broncster2614 Deactivated User 404 Posts 3/04 | This movie had real potential, with all that ass being in the cast. Edited by - broncster2614 on 2/10/2006 12:43:56 AM |
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| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | As for big butt movies in general. I think only directors who have a real passion for butts can shoot these kind of movies the way I like them, that's why I don't care much for movies from Zupko or Jordan simply because they don't have the same passion as Stagliano himself. Even T.T.Boy and his black crew know how to capture that passion on camera. |
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| Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04 | Can't wait to see Naomi's unbelievably phat ass get a similar treatment. Not bad. Not bad at all (at least so far). |
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