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Luvinit
Member

7 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 8:59AM
Since Rob Black came out with BJ Adventures of Dr. Fellatio and the astounding BJ by Lovette, I've liked this genre. Never particularly liked beating the girl up (Gag Factor) or taking part in a simulated oral rape with fifteen of my closest buddies (various series). Judging by the number of offerings, I have some company. Get some really good looking and/or really skilled women and put them to work in a sex act that they obviously have a lot of experience performing and let me believe that I'm the guy on the receiving end and I'm happy.

But I get really frustrated by the number of people who don't do it right. First, the money shot is key (again, an area in which I have a lot of company) and it kills me as to how many directors don't know or care what they're doing. For guidance, look to Brandon Iron, as he shows 50 times at a shot, the guy is standing, the girl is kneeling, if the girl is undoubtedly willing to take the shot let her control where he sprays but as Jules Jordan said, most of the time she's going to dodge. That being said, the issue is that you've got to clearly show what's coming out and where.

Second, the guy is important, he's got to be productive, shall we say? A lot of the current offerings seem to be by people who are not gifted and there's a feeling of being let down.

Finally, the Recap in this genre is key for obvious reasons. Sometimes the quick flip from one to the other does the job when time is short. I get the feeling that some directors believe that a recap in a BJ film is redundant since the film itself is short scenes, but they're wrong. And please, don't forget the chapter stops on Recaps.

I guess what got me going was the current "Meat on the Grill" by Black Ice which messes up by allowing the dodge on almost every scene and even when they don't the positioning is so bad the view is poor. Consider that if there's going to be resistance on the money shot maybe that's someone that shouldn't be in a BJ movie. This along with the fact that gravity doesn't aid the position of the guy being seated and the woman being on the same level tends to make the shot run away from the woman at worse or create a "wiping" that is pretty inadequate. Great cast, badly done.

Also got "POV Suck Off 2" and while I wasn't quite as frustrated I was disappointed. When the end was good the positioning was bad and vice versa. If Luger had handled every scene like Ava Devine's (a true master if there ever was one) I would have had no problem. The inside shots on someone like Danielle Derek leaves you cheated.

Anyway, just had to get it off my chest and directors, get it off her chest.

David J. Bryan

Len Nicodemo
Doctor of Pornography (Po.D.)

On avatar hiatus
1224 Posts
2/06
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 9:55AM
There's a #2?

Edited by - Len Nicodemo on 2/23/2007 9:55:39 AM

Luvinit
Member

7 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 10:58AM
Yes, it's under the Mach 2 label. I think it came out last week.
JONNYESS
Member

217 Posts
12/06
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 7:51PM
I can definitely relate to your frustration.

The quality issues are related to the watering down of the industry in recent years. Anyone with a videocam can/is making lower-budget porno these days, with little artistic sense or production values. Low budget = 2nd and 3rd string on-screen talent as well.

I can only suggest you find a reviewer or two you can trust as far as likes/dislikes, and let others prescreen before you invest your hard earned $$...

tritone
Deactivated User

1009 Posts
4/03
Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 9:29PM
The problem with your critique is that the complaint is not about the blowjob portion, but the climax.

To me, the climax is an important part of the scene, but it is not everything. Its the journey that counts for me. I would rather have a well filmed BJ with a weak cumshot but otherwise sporting great eye contact and a pretty girl than something sub-standard with a great cumshot.

I agree that Dr. Fellatio #1 is a landmark BJ flick ( I remember jumping for joy when it came it in 1998-- someone had finally figured out exactly what I wanted see), but there has since been many fine, fine BJ movies since then.

In fact, a lot of guys would argue that what you call for, namely the guy jerking himself on ONTO the girl, diminshes the "sexiness" of the BJ because the girl does not finish him off. Indeed, I feel that the girl jerking the guy to finish is optimal. Now sometimes with them in control they will weasel out at the last minute and back away from the cum jets. But even in those cases there is just something extra-sexy about a girl making you shoot off with her hands or mouth. Its like she is totally devoted to your pleasure and that is very hot.


 
Hank
Member

34 Posts
1/07
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 10:52AM
I don't like BJ footage where the guy jerks himself off to come. The male actor shouldn't be allowed to touch his dick and the girl should do all the work. That is how God ment a BJ to be done.
modano
Member

316 Posts
12/05
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 3:00PM
a weak cumshot really brings the scene down in my opinion.
like if they nearly dont have any cum at all, or if it drips out or they have to squeez it out....
it loses its exciment by then for me atleast.

Manuel Ferrera's shots is an excellent example of how it should be done :)


Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 3:25PM
Maybe studios should start paying the male performer a bonus based on the quantity of cum delivered?


BSD
Senior Member

San Diego, CA
2508 Posts
11/03
Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 3:26PM
Friends -

And I don't like facial scenes, THAT DON'T END IN FACIALS!

I think we agree that we all hate the interminable jerk-to-pop sequences where the girl grows a beard and goes bald while she has her face upturned waiting for some loser to pop. Nobody likes that.

And in my perfect world, the blow job would be completely hands-free OF EVERYBODY, boy and girl. I like the girl handling and fondling the balls while she sucks, but for me all the shaft action should be licking, nibbling, and sucking, hoovering and sword swallowing.

But if the objective is a facial, then at the very end, the mope has to be holding and aiming. With most girls that I've seen, the girl just cannot be trusted to not dodge, or not aim it her chin, or chest, or somewhere else. That's not a knock on the girls, even the most willing will reflexively back away or turn away when that first blast hits, especially if it's a surprise, and many struggle to stay in place and take it. Most of the time, the mope has to be jerking and aiming while cumming to get the best facial effect.

The other part that is instinctive is the desire to be holding and stroking your dick while cumming. Unless your dick is actually encased in an orifice when you come, it just feels better when you're stroking as you pop. I know when I jack off, I don't take my hand off at the moment of truth to just watch my geyser. And a lot of times in porn, when you see a girl strokin' a guy off, just before he cums, he yanks her hand away and grabs his dick himself. It's instinctive. It feels better, and you probably cum better. So that's all the more reason why I have no issue with the guy holding his six shooter to paint a pretty face.

Again, my issue is specifically with the execution of the porn facial. If you signed on for a facial, and you're getting paid for a facial, then darlin' you gotta take a facial. The mope needs to make sure she gets one, and not have her there with cum hanging off of shoulders and elbows and whatnot. Or have her standing there giggling sweetly, while 50% of the nut is on the couch behind her.

BJ's in general involve a lot of personal preference.

BSD


Luvinit
Member

7 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 25 2007 : 11:46AM
A couple of clarifications. I don't look for the facial as the be all and end all but it's kind of the coupe de grace. A great facial after a bad BJ is no bargain.

The long stroke can be edited (and often is). The woman handling the business is preferable but as several have stated, not always practical.




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