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| thickwil Member 7 Posts 6/17 | As I mentioned before, I'd love to see a scene with Shawna Lenee and Elena Koshka together in a 3sm. Elena Koshka or Riley Steele would be spectacular additons to Blacked, but I don't know if either does interracial. I'd love to see any of these girls do a Blacked scene: Elena Koshka Riley Steele Georgie Lyall Alexis Fawx Cassidy Banks Alessandra Jane Anastasia Knight Sarah Vandella I'd love to see any of these girls return for some group scenes: Allie Rae Riley Starr Lennox Luxe Dolly Little Aspen Romanoff Hannah Hays Lily Rader Shawna Lenee Cherie Deville Marica Hase Edited by - thickwil on 12/30/2017 3:44:22 PM |
| Yoshikage Kira Member 115 Posts 11/17 | |
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | By the way, you did mention tattoos in your post, and I will admit that I'm much more accepting of girls with them...like Gina Valentina is pretty much my favorite pornstar right now. I actually hated the early days of Blacked and Tushy when Greg Lansky employed his "tattoo cover up tricks" on many of the girls featured, for me, it actually made for more of a distraction then if the tattoos were left uncovered. I also never liked how tats would be "airbrushed out" of the photo sets. |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | |
| InigoMontoya Deactivated User 218 Posts 11/09 | Personally I think they've done a better job of maintaining their standards on Vixen and Tushy recently. But that's probably partly due to the fact that they have a larger pool of talent to choose from, including those chicks that (currently) don't or rarely shoot IR. Tattoos are a real issue for me. If they can cover them up, I think they should. I don't mind modest ones, like Adria Rae's or Tori Black's or AJ Applegate's. But I think it's genuinely heartbreaking when a performer like, say, Kendra Sunderland or Alex Grey starts desecrating their otherwise flawless bodies with a whole bunch of random doodles. I just recently watched the Evelyn Claire & Anya Olsen scene on Vixen and seeing these random black doodles on Evelyn Claire's otherwise flawless body is tragic, as far as I'm concerned. They're free to do as they wish with their own bodies, obviously, but I was delighted when these sites launched and they would cover up even the modest tattoos. If they choose not to bother with that anymore either then that'd be another unique selling point down the drain.They're undoubtedly facing increased competition for talent and exclusives from other sites/producers these days. Which is why it seems even more strange to me that they chose to launch another IR site that doesn't significantly differ from the original. It feels like the obvious consequence would be that the exclusives and newbies that they do land will be spread thinner across the two sites rather than concentrated on the one. And that surely compromises the quality of the original. I feel like that would be less of an issue if the second site was clearly different from the original in content. Then no matter what or who they shot for the second site would have its own unique appeal. I'm sure there are fans of the new site's style but, personally, I don't think different lighting/setting and 5 minutes of cam footage at the start of every scene is enough to clearly distinguish it from Blacked; especially if as a knock-on effect it potentially compromises the established standards and consistency of Blacked's output. If the point of shooting more veteran IR performers is meant to differentiate them from other sites that are mimicking their style and snapping up most of the same talent, then the least they could do is shoot these performers in a different scenario to what we've seen them shoot time and time before. That's obviously more difficult with veteran performers, but it's not impossible to find something that they haven't shot routinely and therefore maintain more semblance of exclusivity. But since they've so far shot all of the veterans they've recently hired in run-of-the-mill b/g vaginal set-ups, I'm more inclined to believe that they're shooting with these performers to fill gaps left in their schedules by the launch of their second site. Edited by - InigoMontoya on 12/31/2017 11:49:55 AM |
| SirJerksAlot Deactivated User 392 Posts 2/17 | |
| Ohio is for lovers Deactivated User 563 Posts 1/10 | Kimmy Granger Jill Kassidy Most Blacked fans have been begging for those two to appear. Both have said they would do it. What's the hold up? Anyway, here's to hoping 2018 brings us back to the original Blacked. |
| Ohio is for lovers Deactivated User 563 Posts 1/10 | |
| spacemoose Member 64 Posts 11/14 | |
| Dat_1_Dude Senior Member 1779 Posts 1/15 | Speaking of the beginning. Lets talk about young and fresh. What makes a girl young? Age, experience? Is Riley Reid considered young because she can still look like a minor? Because the very first update I see is Cherie Deville. Up until the Dani Daniels showcase, the only girls still around are Cherie, Jada Stevens, Jillian Janson, Anissa Kate, and Keisha Grey(RIP August Ames) and aside from Mischa Brooks and Brook Wylde ---- there's a bunch of flameouts that never amounted to much - which sadly is the issue when you hunt for talent in the sorority house. I dont come to games to watch the second string, I wanna see the all stars. And obviously, others agree as to why there has been more veteran influence lately. Pure18 amd TeensLoveHugeCocks is over there. Last I checked, site is called Blacked not Potty Trained I must've also missed the memo on the unilateral definition of attractiveness. Didnt know the only hot girls that existed looked like walls of white paint and all others with unique characteristics were pigeonholed into the ugly corner. Didnt know if a girl did 100 scenes made her a lesser performer than a girl with just 10. And at what point does a girl lose her freshness? Whats this subjective qualifier? How many nuts do you bust before you toss her aside like a piece of meat? I get it, some of you guys are prejudiced to WOC, some of you are diploma chasers, some of you dont realize that watching porn, a majority of the girls are going to be enhanced one way or another. Hey Greg - Lana Rhoades and Eva Lovia have implants now - put em on the cant shoot list. Janice Griffith and Natalia Starr did interracial scenes for Bangbros - they are obviously washed now because we know Bangbros is the same quality as Blacked anyway The purpose behind this site was the encapsulate porn as an art, and Greg has the cognizance to realize that every person is beautiful in unique ways and imperfections keep everyone from looking like carbon copy robots. He created BlackedRaw so he could shoot girls that would be accepted by those who aren't warped over shallow petty physical characteristics like skin tone, piercings, and tattoos. Which is why I'm shocked he's putting either Katrina Jade, Amber Ivy, Ivy Lebelle, or Monique Alexander next - cant wait to see all the bitching and denigration of another solid performer who deserves the spotlight over some young holdout manipulating the genre to get a payday. Because Greg is all about making IR only acceptable if you get paid enough to do it. Actually they dont deserve you guys, yall are ungrateful and act spoiled. Like yall really watch every scene ever made by every performer, legally. |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | To be honest, if he wants a more steady influx of young/fresh girls, what he should be doing is going after the girls like Evelyn Claire (and Kendra Sunderland), and going through cam sites and making offers to the most popular performers there to shoot for him exclusively. You get the bonuses of a built in fanbase and a performer that's more likely to stick around in the industry than trying to recruit true amateurs through something like Craigslist or Model Mayhem and dealing with all the bullshit that can come from that. |
| InigoMontoya Deactivated User 218 Posts 11/09 | Well, that was quite a tantrum a couple of posts up. People can pretend that this site is about artistry rather than making money if they like, but that'd be a lie. They can pretend that this site hasn't been focused primarily on young, fresh talent in previous years, but it'd be a lie. They can pretend that nobody else wants to see women with curves and that people don't appreciate an occasional update with a smoking hot veteran who's been under the knife a few times, but it'd be a lie. However, the fact is that there appeared to be a shift in the focus of their content in 2017, which people have noticed and are allowed to express their opinions on without fanboys shitting all over them. It's a fucking commodity not a charity! Just because some people were satisfied with what they put out in 2017, or because they want to white knight on behalf of their favourite performers, doesn't mean others' opinions on the product they're charging money for aren't valid. If you had a cable/streaming TV service that was showing 90% original programming for its first few years, then one year they started showing re-runs and syndicated shows; before launching a sister channel and moving some of their remaining original content over to it and charging a separate subscription fee, would that service's original customers have no right to complain? 2018 is a new year and hopefully the content on Blacked gets back to its best. If BlackedRaw starts knocking it out of the park too, then that's fucking wonderful. But as things stand, many people thought 2017 was a disappointment and aren't sure what to expect from the site going forward. And it's funny that someone who complains about people bitching about and denigrating performers uses terms like "no-clout holdout", "walls of white paint", "carbon copy robots" and nonsense like that to describe the women that they don't want to see on the site. That whole screed was kinda sad, to be honest. |
| Ohio is for lovers Deactivated User 563 Posts 1/10 | Amen!!! As a paying member, I have the right to voice my displeasure at the trend of Blacked. I don't go to Jules Jordan begging him to shoot young fresh faced IR newbies. I don't because I realize that's not what he typically shoots. Nothing wrong with his vision. Again, if Blacked doesn't get back to what it was, I will be canceling my subscription. As a customer, that's my prerogative! |
| JayLovesPorn Member 163 Posts 12/16 | |
| 4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01 | https://twitter.com/GregLansky/status/947605106110992385 |
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| blkknight1 Member 707 Posts 10/09 | I think that one factor that some are forgetting is that shooting a scene is a two way street. Lansky has to want to shoot a girl and the girl has to want to shoot for him as well. Just because Blacked is a very popular site does not mean that every girl wants to shoot for it or if they do it does not mean they want to when Lansky approaches them and asks them. The reason why some of these more established performers may have popped up on the site this year as opposed to the past it because they said no in the first year or so but the offer stayed open. Tasha Reign was approached in Blacked first year but her agent convinced her to say no. Kenzie Reeves had a go see with Lansky earlier this year and passed on shooting with Blacked saying she was holding off on shooting any IR. There is a performer who says that she has an open offer from Lansky to shoot for Blacked when ever she chooses to do so. Too many times we lay the blame for casting totally on the producers but they can only do scenes with girls that say yes we don't know if it was Lanksy plan to have lots of newer girls appear on Blacked in it's first year, he may have wanted to have more established girls appear more often but they said no. When the site launched he had Cherie Deville, Jada Stevens, Anissa Kate all established veteran IR stars and even some of the "new" talent had already shot multiple IR scenes, Scarlet Red, Mary Lynn, August Ames, Tysen Rich, and some of the exclusive girls had been around for nearly a year before they shot for Blacked. So again what do you guys define as new and fresh because by my count from their launch in May 2014-December 2014 only 6 girls had been in porn 6 months or less and had 0 IR scenes before Blacked, in the past 12 month Dec 2016-Dec 2017 17 girls that were in porn 6 months or less and 0 IR scenes have appeared on Blacked. |
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| InigoMontoya Deactivated User 218 Posts 11/09 | I don't think there's a definitive description of what constitutes young and fresh. It's not exactly specific. And any definition you do offer up will just be used to tediously try and debunk your opinion - "But [insert performer] was [insert age], had X number of scenes and had been in the business for X number of years before she appeared on Blacked" I think we all know what young and fresh constitutes when we see it. It's pretty obvious that Nikki Benz, Jada Stevens, Marica Hase, Isis Love and so on, the likes of which we've seen far more of on Blacked this year, don't fit that description. Trying to draw a distinction between one of the girls from this year who had less than 6 months experience and no IR and past performers who had closer to a year in the business and no IR is just splitting hairs. It's not really either such performers that are at issue. In previous years you could name only a handful of bona fide veteran performers who appeared on the site, and yet even most of them would be (pretty) new to IR. As mentioned earlier in the thread, the site has always featured these types of performers on occasion; but in 2017 the ratio was all wrong and, especially on top of all the Blacked returnees from previous years, as well as fewer exclusives and group scenes, it gave the site a distinctly different feel. As one guy said above, the reveal used to be a big deal. I remember the site regularly crashing when that clock hit 00:00:00:00. Doesn't seem to happen anymore. I can't tell you who they should be hiring, because I'm not about to go trawling all the casting websites looking for anybody with IR on their card or indulge in guesswork about who might be convinced behind the scenes to drop their first IR scene. All I can do is offer my opinion on what they're actually serving up. -------------------- On a separate note, I see from that New Year Tweet someone posted that Lansky is still adopting his 'haters gonna hate' approach to criticism. Fair enough. He's living the life. No point personally getting hung up on negativity. But I hope somebody at the company is taking notes, because giving unsatisfied customers the middle finger is never the best way to run a business. |
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| Dat_1_Dude Senior Member 1779 Posts 1/15 | Some guys like women, other like girls....that's what it comes down to. Syndicated reruns? Lmao. Lansky pulling veterans is like Netflix or Hulu stealing away hot long standing cable programs like X Factor and Game of Thrones. You know it's not a flop and now you can cut out your old provider and be more committed to the new wave Like I said, no one comes to Broadway to watch the alternates. No one wants to see c-level directors work with A-list talent either. We want the Scoresese, Tarantino, Coppola visionaries collecting the ensemble casts. Tom Brady still runs circles around all those young QBs and Bill Belichek could coach a team of frat boys to the playoffs. Nobody claiming they are over the hill or dissatisfied watching them Not everything was perfect for Blacked, but female casting was definitely one of Lansky's strengths. Scenery, lack of diversity in positions, scene formats are up for debate. Greg smartened up, opened the market up, because his site name is Blacked not "Amateurs". Go to clips4sale or teamskeet if you want a site flooded with d-list newbies. These dudes in their feelings because Greg is catering to every perspective, not just theirs. First it was implants, then it was tattoos, then it was no more fake wigs, and hopefully next is more non-white girls. The answer is right in front of them and they cant acknowledge it, he's here to make money, not be a specialty fetish site |
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| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | I'm sure she will. The "Brazzers Babes" are becoming prevalent on all of the GLN sites. Edited by - Mass Facialties on 1/2/2018 2:57:18 AM |
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| InigoMontoya Deactivated User 218 Posts 11/09 | And then they shit all over people who like the original style and would be disappointed to see it change. I get it now. More non-white chicks ( Then they trot out bullshit analogies about Tom Brady and Tarantino, which basically amounts to "I've got a hard-on for these people and would watch anything they produce for the rest of eternity". According to that analogy August Ames, Jillian Janson, Keisha Grey and so on should've never made it onto the site back when it launched. Their content should've been all Janet 'Tom Brady' Mason, Juelz 'Tarantino' Ventura or Dana 'Scorsese' Dearmond instead. Sorry Moka Mora, Hadley Viscara, Giselle Palmer and co. Your debuts will have to be put on hold while we drop that 50th Sarah Vandella IR scene that everybody's been crying out for. The fact is that this site became a revelation with only a small number of IR veterans and established performers appearing. Claiming that "no one comes to Broadway to watch the alternates" completely contradicts the success of this site. [o\|] And guess what? X Factor is repetitive mainstream garbage. Its ratings are tanking and the only people left watching are those with no imagination or too obese to reach the remote. Anyone who would be happy to see their premium cable/streaming service buy the rights to X Factor needs their head read. And Game of Thrones is ending after one more season. Why? Because the producers have told their story and didn't want the show to get stale. But you realise that Game of Thrones was produced by a premium cable channel famous for its original programming, right? Because that's what premium services do. They create original content. Your own analogy shoots down your vision for this site. Other sites should be looking to get their hands on Blacked's performers to "re-run", not the other way around. It's already been stated repeatedly that nobody has a problem with a variety of performers appearing occasionally. They just don't want to see the balance shifting too far in that direction. There's a site where you can already see all the performers and content you're desperate for: it's called the Dogfart Network. Fake tits, tattoos and MILFs galore. Kindly stop advocating changes to this site which would undermine it for those who enjoy it as it originally was. Edited by - InigoMontoya on 1/2/2018 9:53:38 AM Edited by - InigoMontoya on 1/2/2018 9:57:06 AM |
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| InigoMontoya Deactivated User 218 Posts 11/09 | Maybe in a race to the bottom. I don't want them to cater to my specific expectations. Far from it. There are a lot of things I would be glad to see on Blacked, but which don't fit their established style. I don't go around lobbying for them or shitting on people who complain when they do appear. All I want is for 2018 to see a return to the type and quality of output they were producing for the first 3 years of their existence. Karly Baker for the first update of 2018 is a decent place to start. Anyway, I'm done with talking about this shit for a while. Let's see how 2018 goes. |
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