^ Yeah, but they don't tell you that anywhere. They link to their OnlyFans via Twitter, but what are you getting for $15 a month? Which scenes? How many updates? Is there any added cost for the scenes themselves?
Same goes for the performers' OnlyFans, which they don't tell you about.
And as for Jax Slayher's website, which they also don't tell you about, it costs $30 a month or $60 for 3 months, but there are only 10 scenes listed on the site - 4 released in February 2021, 4 released in March 2021, then 2 more released 5 months later in August.
It's a shambolic operation that I wouldn't endorse with a single cent.
^ I agree in general, but Greg actually screwed up many of those scenes. I would get so frustrated when he would film ten minutes of reverse cowgirl and leave cowgirl out completely.
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Posted - Aug 25 2021 : 7:09PM
^ Agree. We can nitpick on specific acts, but I was more referring to the overall theme of his production which is vastly different from what we have now.
^ We just arent getting back what Greg did and there are a lot of small detailed stuff that people liked that he did and the new producers/directors did. I think the Julia Grandi scenes are the closest to how he directed (specifically the scenes that are shot inside like the recent Stefany Kyler scene and Sybil scene). I don't think the American shot scenes have much that remind me of Greg's scenes.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Aug 26 2021 : 11:49AM
You have to explain to me now what makes this collage so special or makes the current situation so boring? I mean, wasn't Greg Lansky the uncrowned king of boring generic cookie cutter porn? I had to laugh now and then when I saw gifs of Lansky's fake sex shots. What was so great back then that is so bad today?
^ It's actually the opposite of what the site was built on, which was finding fresh young beauties nobody had ever seen much of before, of the type who most people figured would never even do IR scenes. Yes, I know they mixed in veterans too. Rachel looks great here, but she's already done very many IR scenes, so you're not really seeing anything new with this one.
^ You make a great point, she's already done a lot of IR. These sites seem to bounce a LOT between veterans who've already done a copious amount of IR and can't/aren't going to show us anything new and relative newcomers who (I think) most people don't really care if they do IR, or vanilla for that matter. It's like the Gianna Dior showcase they did... sure she's hot, but was there anything at all in those scenes that separated them from any of the dozen plus IR scenes she's shot for years?
The American producers' attitude to these sites is simply bizarre. They've decided that their "cinematic" style is the USP of the sites, rather than Lansky's focus on casting, consistency, exclusivity and a crisp, inviting visual style.
Originally, you never knew what you were going to get in terms of who the next exclusive casting would be or what sort of unique group scene with what combo of the site's hottest talents would be next.
Now you never know what you're going to get in terms of visual style, bizarre plot, creepy fetish etc; and in terms of casting it may rarely be someone new or it could be a Brazzers mainstay. The female star may not even be white or the scene interracial anymore.
Want to see some unique group scenes? Too bad, you get Gianna Dior in another MMF but more "artistic" this time; or a Euro chick getting DP'd for the 20th time in her career; or a relatively fresh face paired with one of their mainstays or a non-white girl.
Lana Rhoades & Leah Gotti, Ariana Marie & Adria Rae, Elsa Jean & Rachel James & Sydney Cole, etc etc etc. these scenes would not happen today.
Kenzie Anne, for example, could be the star of this site at the moment. Her scenes could've been introduced with some fanfare. She could've got a showcase. We should all be on tenterhooks waiting for the MMF threesome or to see which other fresh-faced hottie she's going to turn up in a threesome or foursome with. Instead, there's just as much chance we'll never see her again and she'll go off and shoot 12 scenes for Vixen and Deeper instead. Or they've got her pencilled in for a threesome with Elsa Jean, Adriana Chechik or Kira Noir already while other new faces remain overlooked and unbooked.
Even the Euro scenes which were initially a fresh injection of sunshine and talent have lost their shine, literally, and their casting mojo.
Safest casting choices is how I would describe it.
Are there beautiful girls who can be convinced to do IR/Anal? Yes. But Blacked seems content with its subscriber base. That should be ok but compared to where they could be they seem to have undermined their growth potential.
I would say they wasted last few years and have perhaps hopelessly diluted their brand at this point.
^ I simply don't understand blind devotion to a brand like this - even if you actually like the current content they've been providing is there never a desire to have better?
These companies do not care one bit about the consumer and yet they have this loyal base that devours whatever slop they're served up as content.
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99 Posts 6/21
Posted - Aug 31 2021 : 4:07AM
It's true but I'm really happy they're giving veterans like Rachel or Britney Amber a shot too. They never looked better, every good pornstar should get a Vixen/Blacked/Tushy scene at least once just because of their makeup department.
Next scene looks like Maitland Ward with Troy Francisco which means it will probably be a Kayden Kross scene ugh.
Of course they care. Without the consumers they'd have no cash! Some of you don't realise that this is primarily a business and what matters most to these people is the bottom line on the accounts. If they didn't have plenty of customers who liked what they are doing they'd go bust. It's all too easy saying the average Blacked fan is some kind of idiot for accepting whatever the site throws at them. Every consumer has the same right to like or dislike what they see. If the site was a fraction as awful as some of you are making out they'd have closed it down ages ago as they'd have lost loads of fans!
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You keep signing back up, only to complain and make suggestions that they never respond to.
You're giving them your money for a product you openly and regularly express dissatisfaction with.
You want them to go back to updates every 5 days, but give them your money regardless even as they ignore your requests. You say " If VMG cares about its fans then they should listen to their PAYING subscribers and get back to an update every 5 days!" yet they've been ignoring you for months and there's absolutely no sign of them ever going back.
You say you want more "big splash" debuts, but then say "I'm not gonna hold my breath".
You're the exact type of consumer that guy was talking about. They have no incentive to change because guys like you are propping up their bottom line no matter what they give you.
A couple of weeks ago they were deleting the comments of customers who've been subbed to them for over 2 years continuously because they were critical of the direction and the choice to release a showcase across 5 sites.
We recently saw an interview from one of their directors who explicitly stated that they changed the style of the sites contrary to what they understand their customers actually wanted from them.
Bottom line is, they will do as they please and ignore what the customers want because they have plenty of customers like you who are willing to keep giving them money regardless.
^ You make some pretty big assumptions about what I do and don't subscribe to! The reality is I sign up for a single month now and again when I see there's something coming up that I like the trailer of. You try to make out that I'm the problem but you're the one who continues paying them for something you don't like! I ONLY pay them when they put something up that I like. If you and those like you stopped giving them your dollars they'd be more likely to reflect on why their customers have gone. Rather than getting wound up you should perhaps just 'move on'.
^ I'm not subbed. I saw where these sites were going and saw my direct criticism falling on deaf ears, they deleted comments I made, so I withdrew my financial backing.
I'd be glad to see them get back to where they once were, given the dearth of quality on other sites also, which is why I continue to air my opinions via other channels.
You can still see comments once you've unsubbed though, which is how I can see that you've actually been subbed for 3 to 6 months this time.
Perhaps you can explain the logic to me of signing up to a site, providing a financial endorsement of their product, only to complain about what you're getting for your money? You signed up to sites that offer 1 update a week. Why do you expect them to listen to your demands that they go back to 5 day updates?
Your most recent question asking when they're going back to the 5 day updates has a net total of 42 upvotes. That's at least 42 subscribers still handing over their cash for a product that does not meet their expecations. How does that make sense?
And did this highly supported comment merit a reply from the moderators? No. But a guy who wrote "I love Rachel" gets a response. The guy who wrote "This is Not just porn, it's artwork, great Job by the Director!" got a response. Seems they're only interested in praise.
They've landed the golden goose. Make what they want. Change the sites how they wish. Allow the quality to slip. Produce less product for the same price. Ignore customer dissatisfaction. Because some people will just keep handing over money.
^ I wonder how much of a factor that they push network subscriptions now. Maybe there are those who like the other sites more and just see blacked as some sort of bonus. As far as supporting them financially I dont know what the solution is if you want them to change. Like others I am just an infrequent subscriber now. Just pay to see the few scenes I like and then cancel.
Glad I did cancel though the last three updates would have been something I passed on. Melodrama scene,Milf scene and now thick girl. Such a hodge podge of things they are doing now. I got my Stefany Kyler and Sybil scenes and then will have to see if there are more scenes to my liking to pay for in the future.
At the risk of looking a gift horse in the mouth. That picture of Jia looks good but wish a new girl could be showcased. There are so many fresh girls they seem to be passing on now and girls they have had on their other sites. Like if that picture had Spencer Bradly for example I would resign up. I have already seen Jia a few times and seen her in a pair of threesomes already. A huge part of the blurring of the scene was seeing the reveal of someone you hadn't seen. Next scene after this will probably be another retread or based on past two scenes could be a milf or big girl which is no good to me.
This is one of the bigger issues with these sites that frequently gets overshadowed by the more glaring problems with their content. Popular models should definitely be recast and/or revisited but when you "showcase" a model that has been shown rather extensively on your site it isn't really a showcase. I'm lukewarm with Jia as a performer but I do like Gianna Dior and the same concept applies to that lackluster showcase she recently received - we don't see anything new, at all. Jia has a half dozen IR scenes on Blacked and BlackedRaw in all combinations, minus BBG, and since that doesn't appear to be in the cards why not diversify a little and show us new/newer models? It isn't a reflection of the quality of the performer or their physical attractiveness but there's only so many times you can be given scene combination a+b before you just don't care enough that a sub is worth the price to see it.
I'd really like to have a reason to renew my sub but for the price being asked if you can't provide at minimum 1 update per week across your entire network, in my opinion, you deserve nothing from the consumer. Even then, six scenes per month for $50 is a complete ripoff, but it's a benchmark to start.
excellent post Nimmo (imho) ... another problem and perhaps the most glaring to me with blacked is the total lack of imagination with regards to storylines. I thought the storylines at the beginning were very good and there was a variety. With that said, the storylines now over the past couple of years at least are rehashed over and over again. I may be biased because a scene I had suggested on several occasions did not even receive acknowledgement. I still hold out hope that someone at blacked understands the lack of storyline quality and variety and digs back to take the time to look at my suggestion or reaches out. Thx for the opportunity to contribute to this conversation
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Posted - Sep 5 2021 : 1:55PM
oof that last word is so easy to misread 😅😅😅
speaking of the Gianna Dior showcase, one thing that pissed me off is that in the last scene of the showcase with Manuel, they have the BBG scene playing on monitors in the background... except the action happening in the monitors is nowhere to be found in the actual BBG scene. and arguably, the angles of the action happening in the monitors is one of the better angles compared to the actual scene.
So, a showcase for a girl who already has how many scenes with them? Here's another redhead for you, easily hot and beautiful enough for a showcase, with the added excitement of freshness....Lenina Crowne. https://img60.pixhost.to/images/133/232825267_dnvlgpdpbdlj.jpg [url=558113]https://ist6-4.filesor.com/[link removed: hosting pirated content]
Unfortunately we won't see Lenina on VMG anytime soon ... at least in Julia Grandi's production in Europe. Moreover she seems focused on producing her own content.
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As much as like Julia Grandi's work those tweets do reveal a flaw in how they book european scenes. They apparently just use girls from her own agency. Lenina Crowne would be nice to see on Blacked but if everything goes through Julia then its not happening. Stateside it seems like Motley Models is the go to agency but they do use girls from other agencies as well.
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Edited by - Flash on 9/12/2021 6:53:30 PM
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122 Posts 6/21
Posted - Sep 8 2021 : 12:49AM
^ surprised the MODs have let's this post run so long.
