"Blackface" in porn

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Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 5:19PM I'm looking for examples of blackface in porn - aside from The Seven Seductions (which also features "yellowface," a very common feature in porn), Deep Inside Vanessa Del Rio, and that Kieran Lee music video (which isn't porn), I am struggling to think of any. There have to be other Dark Bros. movies too right? To clarify (if you even care), this is for an article I'm writing, not because I get off on blackface. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 6:06PM ^I think that it was used in at least one BlackonBlackCrime.com scene. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 6:10PM ^ Thanks. 60 seconds of looking at that site was enough for me though. Miserable. If someone can tell me which scene specifically, that would be nice. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 6:48PM ^I did a bit of looking. This is a preview of the specific scene that I was referring to, but perhaps there was others that I'm not aware of. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 6:55PM ^ Thank you for doing it for me. :) [Link]

randomguy007 Member 121 Posts 3/12	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 8:58PM Kieran Lee in his foursome with Jada Stevens, Remy Lacroix, Phoenix Marie and another girl on Brazzers. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 9:02PM ^ Yeah that's the one I thought of instantly. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 9:26PM ^ Does he just have a thing for blackface or what? Thanks though! Keep em coming! [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 9:30PM Maybe I need to refresh my memory, but wasn't Keiran just really tan for that video? Didn't they use like a ton of bronzer on him? I'm not saying that made it any classier, but couldn't they just use the excuse "It's not blackface, he just got really tan"? I mean, there's plenty of examples of white folk who ran amok with their tanning obsession and the effect was simply confounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wa89-F2WvU [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 10:09PM ^ If it's the scene discussed and pictured [invalid URL removed]here then I think you would have a hard time arguing that it's not blackface. This is the same get up as the Sir Mix-A-Lot big butts video yes? [Link]
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 10:34PM ^ Indeed it is. [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Oct 31 2015 : 11:22PM That is the scene, but that isn't blackface. He just looks like your garden variety Jersey Shore oompa loompa rejects, albeit presented in Sir-Mix-Alot's fashion which can't be faulted because it is a parody. They literally didn't use black makeup, nor did they circle the eyes, nor did they use garish exaggerated fire truck red lipstick. When it's literally not what the term means, then how can it be said it is what it isn't? If it was up to me, I would just have hired a black male performer, but you know how Brazzers is. But yeah, if you look up blackface, and you think that Brazzers scene is the same, which is to say you cannot see the difference between real blackface and what they did, then I don't think I can help you. There is a very distinct difference between what Brazzers did with Keiran and what that BlackonBlackCrime site was doing. The latter was definitely no-fucks-given blackface. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 2:26AM ^ It could be that GGG isn't looking for literal "minstrel show" blackface (red lips and all) as much as scenes where a non-black performer is made to look darker for the appearance of seeming black. Which that Keiran scene is definitely guilty of, as there's no way to argue that the look they were going for was "Jersey Shore guido". Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/1/2015 2:27:06 AM [Link]
mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 4:20AM I'm sure Rob Black did something like that during his Extreme/Associate days as well as for when he was directing for Elegant Angel. [Link]
Cray Member 154 Posts 1/14	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 6:34AM ^ EA was the first thing that came to mind for me, but I can't remember the names of any films that featured it. [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 8:26AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ It could be that GGG isn't looking for literal "minstrel show" blackface (red lips and all) as much as scenes where a non-black performer is made to look darker for the appearance of seeming black. Which that Keiran scene is definitely guilty of, as there's no way to argue that the look they were going for was "Jersey Shore guido". Click to expand Exactly. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 8:31AM mcewan wrote: I'm sure Rob Black did something like that during his Extreme/Associate days as well as for when he was directing for Elegant Angel. Click to expand I will do some searching. Someone [invalid URL removed]mentioned that Zupko planned on using blackface for the Sammy Davis Jr. role in The Crack Pack, a parody of The Rat Pack. I checked the video and it looks like they changed their mind and cast Tyler Knight instead. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 8:36AM This review of The A-Team parody mentions that Cannibal is undercover "in blackface with an afro." [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 8:45AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: mcewan wrote: I'm sure Rob Black did something like that during his Extreme/Associate days as well as for when he was directing for Elegant Angel. Click to expand I will do some searching. Someone [invalid URL removed]mentioned[/url] that Zupko planned on using blackface for the Sammy Davis Jr. role in The Crack Pack, a parody of The Rat Pack. I checked the video and it looks like they changed their mind and cast Tyler Knight instead. Click to expand [invalid URL removed]There are links to the relevant Extreme Associates movies that use blackface here in a locked thread that got pretty heated about the topic. There are several directors/producers chiming in, two of whom are now dead. An interesting read. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 11:25AM I'm almost positive that Ron Jeremy did a fairly stereotypical, non-sex, blackface portrayal in "New Wave Hookers 5"...though it's been years since I've seen it. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 11:31AM ^ That would reconcile with my Dark Bros. comment for sure. Any and all Dark Bros. titles would be most appreciated - I know I have seen it but can't identify which ones except DIVDR. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 11:36AM ^Michael Ninn at that point, I believe. The last "New Wave Hookers" that iafd lists under the Darks is #4. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 11:41AM If I recall, the Dark Brothers used Jack Baker in stereotypical black roles, but he was actually black. [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 4:19PM whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ It could be that GGG isn't looking for literal "minstrel show" blackface (red lips and all) as much as scenes where a non-black performer is made to look darker for the appearance of seeming black. Which that Keiran scene is definitely guilty of, as there's no way to argue that the look they were going for was "Jersey Shore guido". Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/1/2015 2:27:06 AM Click to expand No way you say? Keiran looked 90% more like these guys than he looked like Sir Mix-a-Lot, and 99% more like these guys than he looked like blackface. What is interesting is that his real life oompa loompa Jersey Shore / "guido", as you put it, phenomenon is based on guys who desperately envy black male icons, and want to get as close to that as they can, while many of them are deeply racist. But how can it be argued that they make themselves look this way as a form of mockery? This is how they actually WANT to look, and if you look at Keiran in that video, it's practically indistinguishable from them. The only tell-tale signs that he's a parody of Sir-Mix-Alot, besides the obvious music video props and sound, is the outfit. But if you took him out of that outfit, he'd just blend right in amongst the oopma loompa crew. Hell, these oompa loompas are even darker and more garish than Keiran was. Edited by - Melvyn on 11/1/2015 4:20:18 PM [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 7:23PM ^ He was trying to imitate Sir Mix-a-Lot. Sir Mix-a-Lot is an African-American. Therefore, he was trying to imitate an African-American, and making his skin darker was a part of that imitation. It's about the intent, not the actual outcome. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/1/2015 7:23:38 PM [Link]

Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 9:54PM whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ He was trying to imitate Sir Mix-a-Lot. Click to expand Of course. whatsatelephonebill wrote:Sir Mix-a-Lot is an African-American. Click to expand Obviously. whatsatelephonebill wrote: Therefore, he was trying to imitate an African-American Click to expand Yeah but imitating an African-American doesn't automatically make it "blackface." I refer you to just look at that BlackonBlackCrime website that someone linked in here. That's a textbook example of blackface, replete with demarcation lines and sambo exaggeration. I don't see how anyone could say that is the same as them just using a lot of tanning product on Keiran. whatsatelephonebill wrote: and making his skin darker was a part of that imitation. It's about the intent, not the actual outcome. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/1/2015 7:23:38 PM Click to expand If it's about intent, then all they have to say is it wasn't intended as blackface, and since it isn't actually blackface, then wouldn't that be the end of the discussion? But how can you say the outcome is not relevant? Surely if the outcome was a professional Hollywood makeup job that actually fooled people into thinking it was really Sir-Mix-Alot, you couldn't call it blackface, could you? Now did Brazzers actually spring an exorbitant fee to get a team of Hollywood makeup artists to transform Keiran into Sir-Mix-Alot? No. But they also didn't do blackface. Edited by - Melvyn on 11/1/2015 10:02:22 PM [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Nov 1 2015 : 10:43PM ^ You're getting too hung up on the literal definition of blackface, when the creator of the thread has already said that they were looking more for performers pretending to be of African descent than the literal definition of the word. Gore Gore Girl wrote: whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ It could be that GGG isn't looking for literal "minstrel show" blackface (red lips and all) as much as scenes where a non-black performer is made to look darker for the appearance of seeming black. Which that Keiran scene is definitely guilty of, as there's no way to argue that the look they were going for was "Jersey Shore guido". Click to expand Exactly. Click to expand [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 5:09AM How is the article coming? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 8:55AM I gave the talk and it went great. Thanks! [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 9:16AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: I gave the talk and it went great. Thanks! Click to expand wat [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 10:01AM [Link]
Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12	Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 8:08AM I thought you were researching this for an article for your blog. But it was for a talk? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 8:40AM It was for an article which I wrote and then presented at a conference. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Dec 11 2015 : 12:17PM Since you said you presented already I am assuming that you no longer need references to blackface occurring. If you do, Lowell Pickett's 1975 film House of Kinky Pleasures features John Seeman as a servant in blackface having sex with two girls in Victorian era dress. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 7:04PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: It was for an article which I wrote and then presented at a conference. Click to expand Are you interested in sharing the article here? I think a lot of people would like to see your thoughts. [Link]

SgtSausage Member Pleased to Meat you 376 Posts 10/15	Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 7:37PM is this thread intended to indirectly offend specific type of people from a specific type of people ? [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 7:42PM ^No. Gore Gore Girl wanted information for a presentation she was set to give. [Link]