Blackmail Genre - need more in adult films

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bigfoot Senior Member 1295 Posts 7/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 9:07AM I admit that one of my favorite fiction genres is blackmail/humiliation. There are googles of sites dedicated to stories about blackmail however, there are precious few films. Given the broad stroke of porn, I find this strange. In a blackmail story, a person (man or women) is caught in a compromising position. That indiscretion is documented (pictures, video, etc.,) and said documentation is shown to the person being blackmailed. There is shock and anger and eventually resignation. Terms are then agreed upon (for example, "do as I say or your husband/boss/friends/priest, etc., will get copies of the blackmail material). The person being blackmailed is forced to do things they ordinarily wouldn't do (have sex with the blackmailer, have sex with people the blackmailer designates, get dressed up in revealing clothes and go to a place where dressing like that would be humiliating (school, work, the mall, etc.,), enter a stripping contest at the local strip joint, seduce strangers, seduce students in their own class, etc., And there you have the basic blackmail story. My problem is that there is very little of this type of storytelling on DVD in the adult marketplace. Is it because it is "forced sex" or "rape"? If so, that is a false assumption. Obviously, the person being blackmailed is being forced to do sex acts. However, when you examine the genre, it is ALWAYS, 100% ALWAYS best to own up to the behavior for which you are being blackmailed. If you CHOOSE not to do that, the you are willing participating with the blackmailer. THAT IS A CHOICE. I will cite 2006's Corruption as a positive example of what can be achieved with a compelling story. It included Sex, Murder, Power, Deceit, Hunger, Perversion, Politics, and of course Political Corruption. It also included Blackmail, Bondage, S&M, Fisting, Forced Sex (Using the threat of harm against a loved one). This was a well made movie with humps of awards including six AVN awards including Best Video Feature. "Cry Wolf" is another well made movie with a blackmail theme that also won an AVN Award for best movie this past year. So where is the harm in attempting to reproduce what "Corruption" or "Cry Wolf" achieved? What is the backside? In addition, there have been the occasional vignettes that feature vignette sized blackmail situations (a teacher/stripper is recognized by one of her students and has sex with him to keep his mouth closed - a student tells the teacher she knows he gave Sally an A in math because she had sex with her and unless he does the same thing (the A + sex), she will turn him in, etc., Yet these scenes are few and far between and feature none of the sweet anguish - the "what-choice-do-I-have' moments - the looks of disgust when told what they must do and with whom they must do it with, the utter hatred of the blackmailer while the blackmailed is engaged in that activity, the realization that they are locked into servitude without a way out (despite being promised the incriminating material back, the blackmailer holds onto it - in many of the stories, the blackmailer makes the following statement, "sleep with me one time and I'll give you the video back" which is seldom true). Answer me this, there are people who are willing to shoot 12-on-1 gang bangs, take 50 pops on the face, do double anal, fuck Ron Jeremy, take Lexington Steele up the ass, shoot rough sex scenes where they are tied up, slapped, spanked, fucked with enormous dildo's, have their tits and pussy sucked into a glass tube, have their nipples clipped AND STILL, somehow blackmail themed movies are mostly taboo...... Can anyone explain this? Edited by - bigfoot on Apr 18 2009 [Link]
Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 9:19AM I think to do this well, you'd need to have solid writing (it'd probably be a feature), and yeah, I think it may be a grey area in terms of what's considered consensual in an sexual/erotic situation. As I said, it'd need brave and talented writing, and it would need someone bothered enough to go with it. Maybe on the gonzo-esque side, someone like Jake Malone would probably be able to pull something like this off. His stuff is all based around the edgy and psycho-sexual. The 'Fuck Slaves' series alone is testament to this. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 12:52PM bigfoot wrote: .... Answer me this, there are people who are willing to shoot 12-on-1 gang bangs, take 50 pops on the face, do double anal, fuck Ron Jeremy, take Lexington Steele up the ass, shoot rough sex scenes where they are tied up, slapped, spanked, fucked with enormous dildo's, have their tits and pussy sucked into a glass tube, have their nipples clipped AND STILL, somehow blackmail themed movies are mostly taboo......(I will point out that "Cry Wolf", a story with blackmail did indeed win an AVN Award for best movie this past year.) Can anyone explain this? Click to expand Blackmail is against the law. And glorifying blackmail in porn movies wouldn't work well for the porn industry in terms of its public image. There are plenty of people who already condemn porn just for the sex in it. And there is no need to add another reason for such people to condemn porn even more. In a democratic society, people do have to worry about their public image and popularity. Because the public has a way of making unpopular people feel very uncomfortable. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 2:09PM Bigfoot, totally agree. I think the problem isn't so much the lack of this type of scenario being played out in flicks. The Grudgefuck series, countless 'girlfriend/wife/single mom forced to pay rent' scenarios, etc. They are out there in abundance. But they are always implied as the Gonzo nature of the vast majority of scenes out there today more or less rip all the story out in favor of the action. I admit I have enjoyed a few "fantasies of control" type of stories, very common in the [ invalid url ] section of Literotica. There are some very gifted writers over there to be sure, and most of these stories fall directly in line with your premise, although some of them certainly fall into rape fantasies. For example, a popular theme over there is a wife who wants to help her husband get a promotion, survive in jail, whatever. So to do this she lets herself be humiliated/violated sexually to help him out, usually out of fear of him losing his job, their livelihood, his life or whatever. Now similar types of this scenario can be found in "Twisted as Fuck," (esp the first scene) or more commonly any countless scenes involving "schoolgirls" who fuck their teacher for a passing grade, to get out of trouble or whatever or "babysitters" caught doing something wrong and having to fuck the dad to not get in trouble for ignoring the baby. Go buy any of the Kelly the Coed series or "Babysitter" (hundreds of different variations on this title) series and you'll get several such scenes. I've seen this dozens of times in a variety of other DVD's as well. From my perspective, this type of SCENE is actually VERY common in the industry. But the setup, the lengthy premise behind the scene, the drama of the inner turmoil, the look on the womans face when she submits to what she deems as coerced sexual acts, the (in stories at least) inevitable downward spiral of degradation that follows once she first gives in, etc.....this is totally a lost art form in porn if it ever existed at all. The simple reason is that porn producers are just too lazy and porn consumers are just too content with gonzo-style of productions. No story, straight to the ass, powerpistoningpenii and jack off to pop. Boom, string 5 of those together and you've got a shippable product. Rinse and repeat. I think what you want is the buildup/setup. Because you can find the scenario itself (forced/non-consent or coerced sex) in abundance. I tend to agree with you in that I would LOVE to see a bit more buildup of to this scenario as that "fantasy of control" appeals to me as a amateur Dominant. My wife and I role-play this all the time and I can list a large number of porn titles/scenes that play to this fantasy. But sadly, almost NONE of them are as good as the stories and the theater of the mind. So I stick with Literotica and we use these as fuel for our own sick fantasies. Which I assure you are better than a video, but still....I see your point. Let me know if you'd like a short compilation of scenes, but they are abundant. Just not likely with the story surrounding them that you desire. Edited by - LubenLuv on 3/19/2009 2:17:12 PM [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 4:40PM Dan wrote: Blackmail is against the law. And glorifying blackmail in porn movies wouldn't work well for the porn industry in terms of its public image. There are plenty of people who already condemn porn just for the sex in it. And there is no need to add another reason for such people to condemn porn even more. In a democratic society, people do have to worry about their public image and popularity. Because the public has a way of making unpopular people feel very uncomfortable. Click to expand Oh please, How many porn features resolve around murders, robberies, smuggling, or people trying to swindle other people out of their money or property? The most mainstreamy porn movie filmed in the last decade is about pirates. An anti-porn lobby condemning a porn movie because it glorifies blackmail is like MADD condemning a drunk driver because the driver ruined a perfectly good Corvette by jacking it up like a monster truck. [mod edit: cropped quote] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 3/19/2009 4:49:59 PM [Link]

bigfoot Senior Member 1295 Posts 7/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 7:54PM Dan wrote: Blackmail is against the law. And glorifying blackmail in porn movies wouldn't work well for the porn industry in terms of its public image. Click to expand Dan, I undersdtand your point about the industry image, but blackmail being against the law is a weak argument. Murder is against the law as is stalking and a thousand other acts that are littered over the cinematic landscape. Yet, I can name hundreds of titles that deal with murder - straight and porn, and dozens that deal with stalking. Hell, I just watched one last week (Wicked's "One Man's Obsession" starring the lovely Jessica Drake and Randy Spears as the stalker/peeping Tom). The best thing the industry can do is to put out quality merchandise - period. Whether it's the lovely Vivid girls reading from scripts while sucking on condems, Jake Malone redefining Rough Sex or Amateurs hoping for their 15 minutes, as a consumer all I want is quality. The message gets lost because, honestly, who is looking for a message in their porn? The public image will be what it always has and should be - adult entertainment is legally made by consenting adults who make a product long used by other consenting adults. The products contain the same privelages afforded to all forms of entertainment - freedom of speech, content, etc., etc., blah, blah - you know - stand lawyer stuff. [Link]
bigfoot Senior Member 1295 Posts 7/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 8:02PM LubeNLuv wrote: I think what you want is the buildup/setup. Click to expand I think you might be correct. That is so important to quality storytelling. It is funny, I reveiw/rate my DVD's and leave notes so I know what I'm coming back to. I looked up Twisted as Fuck (Kylie is simply amazing, isn't she?) and here are the notes I left for that DVD that are on target with this discussion: The problem with this type of DVD that explores dominant sexuality, is that it can only go so far and without humilation or degradation (two things that are allowed but female directors will not make) it is all "fake" - if not fake, then certainly "not-entirely-real" and that difference is the missing element Let me know if you'd like a short compilation of scenes, but they are abundant. Just not likely with the story surrounding them that you desire.. Click to expand I would love whatever you have. In the spirit of sharing, I have quite the library of blackmail, humiliation and mind control themed stories. I can also recommend some excellent sites if you are interested. [Link]
JONNYESS Member 217 Posts 12/06	Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 11:01PM I myself would be interested in a well produced series along this theme, but I feel blackmail is probably too complicated a concept for the typical impatient porn purveyor, who just wants to get to the action [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 26 2009 : 10:30PM bigfoot wrote: Is it because it is "forced sex" or "rape"? If so, that is a false assumption. Obviously, the person being blackmailed is being forced to do sex acts. However, when you examine the genre, it is ALWAYS, 100% ALWAYS best to own up to the behavior for which you are being blackmailed. If you CHOOSE not to do that, the you are willing participating with the blackmailer. THAT IS A CHOICE. Click to expand i think you're forgetting that the key word here is COERCION. i get where you're coming from and why you think it's a harmless fantasy, but if it's done wrong it simply comes out as rape. which is fucked up. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 12:33AM There are a bunch with this type theme from the mid/late 70s and early 80s. Names are escaping me at the moment but I'm pretty sure that Avon released a few. Unfortunately most aren't released on DVD and the few that have seen a release are in poor shape. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 3:50AM One word - Salieri. [Link]
CheChitala Member 7 Posts 3/09	Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 8:19PM oh yes, bigfoot is definitely onto something here..the blackmail theme is really sexy and stimulaing but its got to be acted out well without the woman just acting like she's resisting only just to gladly have the sex..check out Vanessa of the universe getting blackmailed by a driver in The Final Test(1978) and Stacy valentine in Red Vibe Diaries 3..pls could you list one or two blackmail story sites?...I remember my Ex and I used to always roleplay where she was the bosses high handed wife who led the womens local community union and I was blackmaling her nicely over one of her earlier indiscretions..starting off by making love to her respectfully with much of her clothing on to cover her nakedness(in missionary position)then later on taking of her clothes, giving oral and making her act more whorishly...intoxicating I tell you! an Evil angel production of blacmail theme might probably be better than a Vivid or Wicked pictures one. [Link]
deputyduffy Member 396 Posts 8/08	Posted - Mar 27 2009 : 8:48PM Hardware wrote: One word - Salieri. Click to expand I don't know if this is right....but.... [Link]
Fiend667 New Member 2 Posts 3/09	Posted - Mar 28 2009 : 6:40AM Its not live action but there are some moderately decent Hentai offerings in the Blackmail/humiliation genre. In many cases the 2D animated girls actual express more emotion than the girls in live action porn these days. If you can stand subtitles the japanese also tend to use very decent voice actors/actresses. [Link]
Strangelybrown New Member 5 Posts 6/09	Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 2:19AM So has anybody got a list of movies to find? I think the Blackmail/seduction/corruption being the more rewarding of the mvoies out there. I have all the Mario Salieri movies already. [Link]

sickguy Deactivated User I'm unofficially Beauty Dior's #1 Fan 736 Posts 9/06	Posted - Jun 27 2009 : 2:59PM bigfoot wrote: I admit that one of my favorite fiction genres is blackmail/humiliation. Click to expand + 1 There's huge market for this and why nobody seems to want to tap into it I have no idea. [Link]
deputyduffy Member 396 Posts 8/08	Posted - Jun 28 2009 : 11:40AM Answer me this, there are people who are willing to shoot 12-on-1 gang bangs, take 50 pops on the face, do double anal, fuck Ron Jeremy, take Lexington Steele up the ass, shoot rough sex scenes where they are tied up, slapped, spanked, fucked with enormous dildo's, have their tits and pussy sucked into a glass tube, have their nipples clipped AND STILL, somehow blackmail themed movies are mostly taboo...... Can anyone explain this? Not in a million years. [Link]
booradley Member 9 Posts 3/09	Posted - Jun 28 2009 : 11:48AM Theres a thin line between blackmail/coercion/humiliation and non-consent. Some people think non-consent is a hot genre; executed well could make for good movies indeed. Except that the actresses need to, well, act. They need to go along with the movie. And, usually, acting which seems more real than not is considered good acting. We also try to get movies which are as real as possible. Not always, but I like it more if the sex is 'real'. For a good, reality-inducing non-consent movie, you don't really need to act. And if they're not acting, then it's rape. So this genre is a contradiction in itself. Anyways, if you can get past that point and enjoy fantasy humiliation, try out publicdisgrace.com. Or humiliated.com. There are some good movies there, but I hate the 'before' or 'after' scenes where the actress shows onscreen that it was consent. Edited by - booradley on 6/28/2009 11:49:50 AM [Link]
natrap New Member 1 Posts 11/09	Posted - Nov 19 2009 : 12:11PM I was just looking into this myself and thought I'd mention a scene I just saw. In Jack's POV 15 scene 1 with Faye Reagan has a bit of blackmail. The prelude was quite enticing I thought. I'd like to know if there is more out there like that. [Link]
kantabcd Deactivated User 167 Posts 5/09	Posted - Nov 19 2009 : 7:45PM Edited by - kantabcd on 2/14/2010 1:08:46 PM [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Nov 22 2009 : 8:34AM ^ I take it you don't get turned on by bondage/flogging. Why should we not be able to get off because you think it is bad? That is what is wrong with the government regulating porn, they attempt to impose their morals on me. I think all consentual non-killing and non-maiming porn should be legal as long as the actors are of such an age that they understand what they are getting into (I can live with an age 18 barrier to porn to keep kids out of my smut collection). Get off your high horse and enjoy your gangbangs (which aren't much "better" than BDSM in my opinion)! [Link]
tigerxxx New Member 1 Posts 1/10	Posted - Jan 21 2010 : 1:08PM Definitely you have to watch some movies from Mario Salieri such as "conceta licata" , "scenegiata napolitana" , and "Otages" . But for me the best two movies in blackmail genre is "Le Maitre Chanteur 1" & "Le maitre chanteur 2" with Lea Martini plays excellent the blackmailed woman from a photographer who blackmails her into "things" she cant imagine. In my opinion is the best sequel on that subject. Another movie that i remember is "Prison" again with Lea Martini. Of course if you have some other "blackamail-movies" suggestions please post them. [Link]
sickguy Deactivated User I'm unofficially Beauty Dior's #1 Fan 736 Posts 9/06	Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 4:36AM ^^^ The turn on for me is the reverse. I idea of the female black mailing the male is the turn on for me. [Link]
bigfoot Senior Member 1295 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:31AM Some titles to check out - Vista Valley PTA, 1981, NuTech Digital - Great spoof! Great Blackmail! Jesse St. James should be remembered as a bigger star than she is. Centerspread Girls, 1982, Caballero Girlvert #4, 2003, JM OProductions - Ashley Blue discovers that her high school nemesis Crystal Ray is doing porn. Blackmail ensues Hanky Panky, 1998, Metro [Link]
CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11	Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:50AM ^ Corruption is one of my 10 favorite porn movies of all time. [Link]

TheLeader Member 69 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:51AM Blackmail (Digital Playground) sounds like exactly what you are looking for. Jesse Jane is being blackmailed by an ex because she wants to hide her past as a pornstar from her new boyfriend. [Link]
NiteOwl47 New Member 2 Posts 12/12	Posted - Jan 5 2013 : 3:32PM My thanks to Bigfoot for the specific movie recommendations. Because I have had difficulty finding blackmail films that exactly push my buttons, I have spent money to have custom videos done. To see what I enjoy most, visit NicheClips in the Pro Villain store. I have a custom blackmail video set starring Lexi Belle called "Secretary's Choice", and another starring Faye Raegan called "Blackmailed Trophy Wife". I have a few others there too that are not strictly blackmail, but still non-violent non-consensual clips starring Lexi Belle (Purchased), Hope (Kidnapped), Tiffany Star (Senator's Daughter). I contracted for a 5-video series starring Karlie Montana and Samantha Ryan, also a blackmailed trophy wife script. It's on www.fetishbombs.com if you prefer girl/girl. I don't, but I drool over Karlie, and the series turned out great. I have one offered by Red Light HQ Videos called "Losing the Bet" starring Faye that I really like. And I have several scattered on Rachel Steele's sites. She has excellent search capability so you can look for the keyword blackmail. I have no income or marketing rights to any of the videos listed here, just my own copies that cost me a lot more than they will cost you, but satisfy my individual taste completely. Hope you find something here that you enjoy. [Link]
keyodi Member 19 Posts 11/13	Posted - Nov 13 2013 : 3:12PM I know this is an old post but...... I to am a fan of the blackmail genre, their is a scene called "suck for my silence" featuring jenni lee & kerian lee, he catches her having dinner with someone other than her husband and by her reaction its clear this guy was more than a friend so he makes her give up the pussy for his silence its a great scene jenni acts like she doesn't wanna do it through out the sex scene, [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - Nov 13 2013 : 8:35PM i mentioned in this thread link to Fake Taxi thread that blackmail is used to get the Driver some action with his passengers (staged of course but fun) [Link]
keyodi Member 19 Posts 11/13	Posted - Sep 10 2014 : 11:48AM Anyone find anymore blackmail vids? [Link]
hoochimama Deactivated User 1437 Posts 5/10	Posted - Sep 10 2014 : 1:52PM ^Aside from the sites NiteOwl47 already mentioned, have you tried clips4sale and other dark fetish sites? Seemed to be a pretty common theme in older smut features and the now extinct pornstarpunishment too. It's practically a vanilla genre when it comes to JAVs. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 9/10/2014 1:56:44 PM [Link]
CRFlixxx Member 60 Posts 4/13	Posted - Sep 10 2014 : 7:24PM They are hard to find. Brazzers has a few. NaughtyAmerica has some. I remember one on Brazzers with Lezly Zen, she's a teacher who's stripping on the side, a student video taped her and said, give me a little of that and your secret is safe. Another featured Gina Lynn, not quite blackmaily but it did feature a boss saying if you sleep with me I'll give you a promotion. The husband said, why not we could use the money, and she winds up sleeping with boss to spite her husband. Another featured Gianna Michaels being a doctor who's blackmailed by a patient for some reason. One on Naughty America a long time ago featured Josyln James being blackmailed by 2 students over something. Those are the only ones I remember off hand, but type into google search blackmail site:brazzers.com and do the same for naughty america and you'll find a few more by searching old links and alternate links, but most of them are female's blackmailing men. EDIT: And I also agree I'd like to see, not only Blackmail, but Hypnosis, Mind Control, Drugging scenarios. Stuff that's non-consensual but not as rough as Kink.com gets. Just give me some mainstream or gonzo type sex, wrapped in a non consensual storyline. Also just remembered, one of Mike Johns films, I believe Teenage Spermaholics 3, had Jasmine Byrne in a blow bang and gang bang where she's blackmailed by Von Swine as "payment" to the bad guys harassing him, then as a thank you for the guys that helped him. She gets analed and swallows every load, great scene even without the blackmail angle, with it, give it that nice extra kink. Edited by - CRFlixxx on 9/10/2014 7:34:24 PM [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 11 2014 : 6:11PM ^ Kink does blackmail well but I understand if you aren't into the whole BDSM scene. I can't think of any titles now but I could come up with a bunch of ideas for non BDSM blackmail scenes (most of them could be probably be incorporated into BDSM as well) if I were a director/producer. I think blackmail scenes will always be a part of porn. [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 3:50PM Another one,staged but still looks ok xxxpawn.com [Link]