when is julia ann's bbg scene with Jack Napier & Justin Long being released? Do you have any info for us? thanks.
julia ann said your the one to ask.
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| chloezoe Member 170 Posts 10/06 |  Posted - Jun 16 2009 : 11:23PMwhen is julia ann's bbg scene with Jack Napier & Justin Long being released? Do you have any info for us? thanks. julia ann said your the one to ask. [Link] |
| Riverrat0013 Member New Jersey 150 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jun 17 2009 : 8:05AM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 17 2009 : 2:52PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 17 2009 : 2:54PM I'm pretty sure that's a cuckolding scene, and if that's the case, it's out any day now! [Link] |
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| Better Than You Member England 6 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Jun 17 2009 : 3:54PM [Link] |
| xayhoundb Senior Member 2721 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 17 2009 : 11:27PM [Link] |
| Julia Ann Member 279 Posts 10/04 | Posted - Jun 19 2009 : 3:14PM [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 4:48AM ^ Ouch!!! Billy I am waiting to see how you explain yourself out of this one.  [Link] |
| Putt Member 186 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 8:38PM [Link] |
| franco Deactivated User 766 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jun 20 2009 : 8:40PM This chick was a hot milf who basically only does IR. Havent seen her in awhile but everyone on the boards loved her. She used to be willing to do IR Gangbangs. hotmommyleeza@aol.com http://www.phonesexsweethearts.com/leeza.html http://www.freeones.com/html/l_links/Leeza_Jones/ [Link] |
| xayhoundb Senior Member 2721 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 2:08AM [Link] |
| smallcock Deactivated User 131 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Jun 21 2009 : 4:07PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 22 2009 : 12:01AM [Link] |
| sauce Deactivated User 43 Posts 6/09 | Posted - Jun 22 2009 : 4:14PM And have you spoken to spring thomas over the years since she left? i always wondered what she was up to Now N days. [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 3:07PM Bring those girls back too. Those were great sites. And who was Ruth Blackwells babydaddy lol Also Billy do you have an mail address I can reach you on. I have some ideas I would like you to see. Edited by - Shagdog on 6/23/2009 3:10:10 PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 8:57PM ST and I remain friendly. She's doing great! [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 8:58PM 2) OK 3) No one knows for sure 4) I don't really do "ideas" very well. No offense...but my days of developing new ideas into a site are pretty much done for now. But thanks bro! I appreciate the offer! [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 9:02PM Edited by - Shagdog on 6/23/2009 9:03:20 PM [Link] |
| jimmygabriel Member 22 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 9:46PM [Link] |
| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 5:00AM Billy are you doing all the camera work for the new site "cuckold sessions" ? [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 11:17AM Why BonB wont lay theyre tracks down on DVD never ceases to boggle me? You can download theyre scenes off edit and burn it to dvd with converter software, so? why be a paying BonB customer?unless you like gangbangs,cucking and prego/writing xtra crispy and sicko/kinky stuff? All BonB is doing is denying another revenue stream and denying fans who would buy their DVD stuff to play on theyre big screen if available.crazy? [mod edit: Coming to a website where many of the members make their money by selling porn, and then talking about how to get it for free without permission, is tacky and insensitive at the very least, not to mention also being illegal. I'd advise you to not do that again.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 7/7/2009 2:47:53 PM [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 3:34PM Im pro DVD and support HushHush,Bone,(hi nate) Lethal hardcore,(hi stoney) Midas Exp(hi Jerry), Vouyer Media(hi Vinnie and VanStyles) among others. I am down on web only porn businesses who dont put thier content on DVD. If BoB for example wont put thier content on DVD(and they wont)and someone goes on say, MrM forum or reasonable facsimile forum thereof downloads a favorite scene to dvd, I wouldnt blame them. Wholesale downloading of tons of content for free is wrong and hurts the porn biz and this is what is happening unfortunetly. [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 5:49PM In the case of your post that I edited, your words had given me the impression not that you were calling attention to a problem but rather that you were instructing people how to illegally acquire the material in question. Thus, the edit. [oh in particular I felt that way because you pointed people not only to a forum but to an exact place on it.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 7/7/2009 5:49:58 PM [Link] |
| rockbottom Member 25 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 3:43PM [Link] |
| ellroy Member I love the smell of Gottlieb in the morning. 67 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 4:12PM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 4:30PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 5:25PM [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 5:28PM This dude used to foul up the Mr Marcus board bragging about the same shit. I really appreciate this mod. [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 5:33PM Still, 14 sites is pretty good going for $35 bucks a month...that's a little more than $2 per site, per month by my reckoning. [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 9 2009 : 5:44PM As a thought, the distribution model for DVDs requires a fairly different ball game from distributing on the web. Distribution on DVD is a gamble; you re-edit, author the DVDs, print a gazillion of them, and fight tooth and nail to have stores sell them for a profit. Once the video is on DVD, it becomes doubly easy to pirate the material, and that 'exclusive' marker has to vanish from the site. Having said that, the topic of if any producers should sell on DVD is probably worthy of it's own thread. John [Link] |
| billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 1:25AM And while I'm at it, I'll go ahead and get myself in trouble by leaking this info: by fall, there's 3 more sites going up, one of which is guaranteed to melt some brains. 'nuff said. [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 9:07AM there is still many fans who prefer porn on DVD. BoB has recieved many,many requests(even by your admission billy)to have BoB scenes made available on DVD. BoB refuses. BoB then adds fuel to the wholesale file sharing fire crippling many players in the industry.how can you deny that fact? this is opinion,Im not the only fan with this opinion.this is AdultDVD talk, lets talk, even if the topic is a hot button issue. you should be grateful ,most people would just comment good work Billy and then go find your scenes on a file sharing site behind your back. Im gonna say it again, put your BoB stuff on DVD.just the 1on1's would make me happy. [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 9:52AM Just because members have membership to all 15 sites doesn't actually mean they have to utilise it. They can just choose to look at the sites that interest them. It's not like Billy Watson comes to your house and points a loaded gun at your head and tells you which scenes/sites you may or may not look at. Also, are you seriously suggesting that if you were offered access to four sites for $35 versus access to 15 sites (including the 4 you really want) for the same amount of money, you'd just take the 4 site option? Really? RiiiightThis is actually a fairly salient point.Perhaps because it doesn't actually make financial sense to them to put the content out on DVD? You've got a whole raft of other expenses to figure in: Authoring, Duplication, Sleeve Art & Printing, Physical Distribution (to the postcodes that allow it, lest we forget...another advantage of web-exclusivity) and Physical Storage. Whilst the content itself is already effectively paid for, it still might not work out as being profitable enough a venture to justify doing it.Again, logic? Putting the content out on DVD will reduce piracy how? You can rip content off a DVD with as little effort as it takes to download a scene off a website. If you're suggesting people will pirate the scenes because they can't get a DVD version, how do you explain the fact that they are prepared to download the non-DVD version in the first place, if they are so bound and determined to have a DVD version? That's like justifying car theft because the manufacturer doesn't make that particular model as a convertible too.  [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 10:26AM A.) I dont want to pay for content I have no intent of ever watching.I dont believe there is anyone interested in all sites. As Billy says, its $2 per site.Ok ,then charge me $8 for 4 sites of my choice.by BoB billys reckoning. B.) The reason BoB hasnt put theyre content on DVD is obviously oblivious to you. You pulled your response out of your arse like a gay dude does to a butt plug. So your saying all DVD porn production companies should just shut down and go internet only.That there is is ZERO market for quality.the market has been saturated.saturated with crap.there is a strong DVD market for quality IR 1on1 content that hasnt already been released on DVD previously.the incredible amount of previously released comps out now is skewing the DVD market even lower.If BoB made theyre content available to DVD, they will have no problem getting, xrent,bush, excalibur ,gamelink ,this place and anyone one else i didnt mention to carry the line and it would be a big hit for them as well as BoB.let them worry about zip codes.if your worried about getting the max hardcore treatment , dont put your wife writting, cuck and trainwreck content on dvd. who needs cover art? the name and some simple but sharp graphics and stills on the back cover. C.) Content will always be pirated to some degree. there is no sense pushing(literally)a percentage of fans that would be paying customers if said content were offered on DVD into pirates. Piracy is a mountain. You have to chip away at it. put your stuff an dvd and now you got a smaller mountain. [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 11:11AM [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 12:00PM Also, you're not paying for content that you have no intention of watching. You're paying for the site you want to see, you just get the rest bundled in for free as a bonus. Talk about looking the proverbial gift horse in the mouth...I suppose when they roll out the three new sites they have in development and add them to the program, you'll want to pay less than $2 to join the ones you want, right?Nice. Let me guess...BlacksOnBoys was one of the sites you were most interested in?Nowhere have I said or even remotely suggested anything like that. There is no universally-applicable 'one size fits all' business model for every company. What works for BoB might not work for New Sensations, and vice versa....and the surest and most logical way to cure saturation or oversaturation of the DVD marketplace is to release even more DVD product?Says you (again, conjecture as opposed to fact), but then even a cursory reading of your previous posts indicates that you have a personal preference for 'IR 1on1', so I'm getting the acute impression that you are carrying something of a torch or 'hard-on' for this particular type of niche/scene, and as such are evidently something of a monomaniacal and distinctly myopic broken record in this regard, incapable of seeing the wood for the trees. It may come as something of a shock to you, but what is true for you isn't necessarily true for the population at large. People have different tastes and opinions, and I would imagine some of them even like 'train wrecks', otherwise BoB wouldn't bother shooting them if they were indeed that unpopular, as you seem to think they are.Again, baseless conjecture. I dare say the guy who runs BoB has some hard facts and figures and projections as to the potential viability of such a venture, and the knock-on impact upon his core web-based business, and that's the reason why he has foregone releasing DVDs. How do you know it would be a big hit, by the way? For a website as well-established and ubiquitous as BoB, I'd imagine a lot of people interested in IR have already been/still are a member and thus seen their content online and as such would not be motivated to buy the DVD. I'm sure such a consideration would weigh fairly heavily in the minds of retailers and distributors too. Also, as a purely online entity, 'this place' doesn't actually physically 'carry' anything. However, a producer and/or retailer of physical DVDs does have to 'carry' stuff, and storage space (i.e. renting a warehouse) costs money.You're missing the point. Some zipcodes don't allow any adult material whatsoever. Even your precious 'IR 1on1's' would fall foul. However, with a website, you can reach these customers (and their money!) that would otherwise have been denied to you.I can only think you typed this at haste. Go back and re-read it and see if you can spot the irony of your statement. It's akin to saying 'Who needs cutlery? Just give me a knife, fork and spoon!' Also, regardless of how much or how little you spend on the cover design, it's still going to cost money to print it onto sleeves.My analogy about the convertible didn't sink in, did it? Again, not wishing to sound like Spock, but your argument is completely illogical. If these supposed DVD-centricist fans are so adverse to the web-based versions of the content, why are they pirating it in the first place? Sounds like an extremely flimsy excuse to me. By your reckoning, it would be okay to steal food from a restaurant that didn't offer takeout. [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 12:38PM the oversaturation is due to to inferior knock off product and over aggressive compilation releases.fans who buy/rent ,the bulk of the DVD market, dont fool with comps, they got it on the 1st run and are discriminating,they know what is good and what isnt.the downsizing of the porn industry will continue until most of the low quality guys bite the dust. this leaves a window of opportunity for BoB to enter the DVD market and rule the IR segment for the next few years. Says me? If the Blackzilla and other IR series from Hush/Bone were mega DVD hits, BoB would not be? the Hush/Bone DVD numbers have dropped because they have stopped producing new IR product and are now running comps. The 1on1 series have been the best movers. Who in the porn industry doesnt have the zip code data readily available to them? Anybody who has done any mail business knows there are all kind of zip codes and states in some cases depending on the product you cant send your wares to.zip codes are tooth picks. Common sense has to come in to play somewhere ? BoB could have dropped theyre material to DVD years ago even when DVD sales/rent numbers were better and didnt when the market wasnt saturated.(which are skewed due to comps and lack of new production). If IR wasnt popular BoB website wouldnt have been so popular, so? you can read ,but cant seem to see the trees through the woods and there in lies the problem. Carno, Im glad you think the BonBoys site alone is worth your $35 a mo. [Link] |
| StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 1:06PM Oh Brother Where Art Thou? [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 2:23PM By the way, you do realise ADT has a Gay forum too, and that by patronising ADT even as a mere surfer as opposed to an active link/ad clicker, you are helping to partially fund the existence of it? Hell, you're practically on the down low just being here.Yet these big companies still put out comps? Why is that? I mean, it must be tantamount to commercial suicide to do it, to put out a product that has absolutely no buying audience, yet still they persist. What's even more surprising is that the distributors and retailers then compound the studio's error by buying said compilations off them. Please refer back to my post where I say 'What is true for you isn't necessarily true for everyone else'. You might not buy compilations, but there are a lot of occasional customers who do, and they make up a pretty sizeable demographic chunk of the market. Or you can just continue blithely along in your deluded belief that the studios, distributors and retailers put comps out simply because they enjoy losing money. Whatever works best for you.Leisure Time (and their various aliases/sub-labels) are still going, I believe and they make a living on churning out low quality comps. They are like the cockroaches that will survive the oncoming pornogeddon/pornocaust. You'd think they would have been squeezed out by now, yet still they remain....and after those few years, then what (and that's supposing that there actually is a physical DVD market of any significant size by that time, post-'downsizing' of the industry)? They'll now be locked into a dwindling business model with various overheads. There's a damn good reason they're not breaking their necks to change their business model and get in on the 'action', so to speak.Again, just go back and re-read what you're typing and try and let the significance of what you're saying sink in. Per your reasoning, BoB should adopt the same business model as HushHush/Bone Digital, that is to say websites and DVDs concurrently. Yet for some reason (despite having the superior business model to BoB), according to you, they have now 'stopped producing new IR product' and instead are 'now running comps'. Oddly enough, despite having the inferior business model, BoB continues to produce new IR product for their network of sites month after month (with the obvious exception of the now-retired Spring Thomas). How can that be?Again, you've failed to grasp the issue. If you have a physical product (like a DVD) that you can't ship to various zipcodes, then you lose the potential business from those zipcodes. With a website, you can circumvent this problem entirely. If you can already reach 100% of your potential customer base via one delivery format (the internet), why would you make the effort to switch to an alternative delivery format (DVD) which might only be able to reach something like 50% or less of your potential customer base? The simple answer is: You would not. I tend to think that is probably BoB's outlook as well.Rick, if our little discussion has demonstrated anything, it's that you are indeed the last person who should be attempting to take people to task on the grounds of a lack of common sense. Seriously.Could have. Didn't. Remained internet exclusive. Still producing new material. Has the penny dropped yet? Indeed, can it ever?Again, nowhere in my previous posts have I said or even remotely suggested that IR wasn't popular. You know what I said about you and common sense? Well, that goes double for you in terms of literacy and reading comprehension I'm afraid to say.You'd love it. Instead of butt plugs getting pulled out of guys' asses, it's big black cocks. Lot's of IR 1on1's too. How can you not love that? [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 2:39PM A DVD runs around $15-$20. For less than the cost of three DVDs, you could (in theory) download the entire network of sites he runs, potentially several dozens of DVDs. The whole 'four dollars a site' argument rings false. You're not paying attention to the marketing lesson. To make DVDs costs money. To sell DVDs costs money. You're essentially complaining that one of your favorite pizza places doesn't deliver. A former Drill Instructor used to say to us "Tough shit, bucky boy." A quick look on file sharing sites shows that DVD porn is pirated to a much greater degree than websites. There are programs that turn a DVD into an AVI file with two clicks; to download, then upload, entire sites requires a lot more time and effort. The fact is, most DVD only companies are going downhill, at such an alarming rate that it leaves newer/smaller producers (say, me) scratching our heads thinking "it just isn't going to be worth the investment." In fact, I'd be very surprised if the entire distribution model hasn't moved to VOD fifteen years from now. History shows us that the DVD format, itself, is barely more than 10 years old. There are great file format conversion programs. It'd probably be worth your time to buy the membership, download the scenes you want, convert them to DVD, burn them, and be done with it. It should be worth noting, that Billy Watson doesn't personally decide what happens to the material he shoots. Complaining to him that Dogfart doesn't do X, Y, or Z is a bit like chewing out the recording engineer because you hate Sony Record's business model. John [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 2:41PM John [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 2:46PM I have been in the mail order business,there are zip codes, communities,cities and states where you cant send BBs or pellet guns, cross bows ,ammo etc to.Your suggesting since Daisy and Crosman cant sell thier product mailorder to every zip code in the 50 states, they should just sell wholesale to megabox sporting goods stores? I understand enough about zip codes and local ordinances to know you merely want to argue something that is pointless the 1st time you mentioned it.all the companies like xrent dvd, bush, excalibur etc seem to be handling zip code issues just fine for EXP,Bone,Hush,NewSensations, WestCoast, Lethal hardcore just to scratch the surface. So why is BoB gonna have such a zip crisis? a significant number of potential customers still want theyre porn on DVD,so the answer is if there are some areas we cant sell DVD in we wont sell DVD at all?brilliant. carno,Do you get anywhere with this nonsense in the Gay forum? [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 2:55PM If you believe there's a significant market vacuum for IR porn on DVD that isn't already being met by the many (many many many) other companies who also cater to the genre, it stands to reason that someone will ultimately step up to fill it. Personally, I think BoB is going the wise route, in sticking to their online only format, as twenty years from now it's likely to be the only format. John [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 3:14PM [Link] |
| StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 3:35PM Not to mention, you can shoot harder content on the net and not deal with the headaches of local laws. Also, whether you all like this or not, many porn consumers have reasons for keeping that part of their life in the dark. Many people walk in my home and see my DVD collection, few if any use my computer. I imagine it is also a lot cheaper to produce internet content as well (again reducing overhead) It is greener. The only thing I can see that DVD's offer that a lot of websites don't is more options and more BTS. But my hope is a lot of sites will begin offering more BTS content. I don't have anything against DVD's , but the truth is it is not always the best vehicle for distribution, especially for lower budget productions. "He says they've already got one..."May we see it? Monty Python's Holy Grail. [Link] |
| Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 3:36PM [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 4:06PM Again, let's examine the logic of this argument: The porn you want isn't available on DVD, ergo you illegally download a copy which is an exact reproduction of the content you would find on the paysite, identical in every way (such being the nature of digital media). I fail to see how this solves the problem of the content not being available on DVD. You're getting the exact same content you would have got had you paid up and joined the site and legally downloaded it. All I see is a weak attempt to justify piracy, I'm afraid. [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 4:08PM As soon as I read your pizza place metaphor, I thought to myself 'Finally, someone gets it!' [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 4:15PM John [Link] |
| Carnoscenti Member 23 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 4:22PM As you correctly point out, when you invite someone into your home, they will most likely see your DVD collection, your CD, rack, your bookshelf etc., and will draw their own conclusions based on what they find there. Whereas certain items (say a book by a cult author or a CD by a cutting-edge band) will be proudly on display because the owner likes how they reflect on his personality and impress visitors, we all know the porn collection isn't going to be on open display, but more than likely hidden away somewhere if it even exists in a physical form. So, whereas the impetus is there for the consumer to buy the official CD, DVD or book rather than pirate it (lest potential girlfriends catch sight of a shelf full of ripped CDs and think 'Jesus, what an amoral cheapskate!'), no such impetus exists when it comes to porn. I think therefore the industry needs to get together and thrash out a plan to make porn a little 'hipper'...there are certainly quite a few breakthrough people currently doing their respective parts on this front (Stormy, Sasha Grey, the alt.porn crowd etc.), but I still feel more could be done. What's needed is porn that people won't be embarrassed to display on their shelves (I have Nic Andrews' 'Dark Angels' mixed in with my regular horror movies, for example), but rather the exact opposite. What the industry needs is 'Porn You Can Be Proud Of!' Edited by - Carnoscenti on 7/10/2009 4:25:20 PM [Link] |
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