Its a shame that there was no continuation of Gang Bang Girl series. The last one was Gang Bang Girl 37 if I remember correctly. I suspect that the production cost was thru the roof and diminishing returns returns as well as the competition took over perhaps?
The setup and outfit is perhaps the best type for my taste ... however Gang Bang Girl 35 with Ariana Jollee as the ehm ... star? ;)
Its a shame the music and the other sounds are not on different select able audio tracks or? ;)
However I would like to have a GBG scene with a private classic woman and setting but with the amount of gents in the GBG scene.
So tree to four times the amount of a gents that's in the more "conservative" private classic scenes.
I don't remember how good the scene is ... however there is one Private Classic Gang Bang where one gent bangs one woman. And there is another woman that is getting Gang Banged by 26 gents if I don't remember ... that have been one of the larger Gang Bangs of that time as well perhaps?
That would be a massive scene if one manages to book all does gents with one woman ...
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Yeah covid crushed them (for obv reasons) they had a bunch of girls lined up who canceled on them also (sidra saige posted abt flying out to film w/ them the night before and her scene never happened, i wanna say they had shoots scheduled w/ holly hotwife and jewels jade that never happened too) and for a small amateur outfit that really hurts. i know they even posted a video w/ one mainstream performer (name escapes me someone will know) who wasnt into it and they had to stop the scene.in the scene description one of the guys from the site talked abt how much of a loss they take when that happens.
its interesting theres been a progression of amateur bukkake sites in the deep south for the past 20 years-cohf, southernbukkake,tampabukkake,texasbukkake-but they dont stay around for more than 5 years w/o switching owners.
in the end it all comes down to money as ive said many times-youre talking abt30-40 grand in total for these kinds of scenes and the industry just isnt pulling in that kind of money like it was 15-20 years ago. dogfart is literally the only company left doing bukkakes w/ any kind of regularity.
Analbolic's GangBang Girls series was awesome. It actually dates back to the early 90s. I loved the stories and the set ups! GangBang Girls 1, with Trixy Tyler, was really the first gang bang I ever saw, and my mind was blown. I was shocked at how much I got off to the scene, in particular the ending. Ten guys cumming all over her face, instead of one or two or three? Yes, sign me up for more! I had all of the GBG VCRs in my VCR collection for a long time. Favorites were GBG 1 with Trixy Tyler, GBG 4 with Debi Diamond, GBG 12 with Crystal Wilder, GBG 13 with Francesca Le, GBG 15 with Nici Sterling, GBG 17 with Missy, GBG 18 with Sabrina Johnson, GBG 22 with Dina Jewel and GBG 23 with Oceane. But around this time, scenes in the GBG series occasionally were swallow scenes instead of facial scenes, so I found myself moving towards pure facial series (if I could find them). That was the heydey - the late 90s - of the late and great cumonherface.com (which also had a lot of great stories and set ups). Moving into the new millennium, blow bangs started to come into vogue, with Brandon Iron leading the charge. Some of his scenes had great stories and setups, many of which were pretty humorous.
I wonder if all does ladies of the Anabolic GBG series has worked on a farm or something ... because they are very good at handling bulls ... I think its so dirty that in GBG 32 Kimberly Franklin as a cheerleader poses in front of a whole football team and the scene is done on a American football field. And Cricket in GBG 25 in front of the Hockey team. And I agree that GBG 23 with Dina Jewel taking on a whole fire department crew. Its hotter when it all ends in a facial barrage at the end over the woman. I think the setup of the scenes in the earlier is better but the quality is better in the end because of better technology. I also like the outfits of the women earlier in the series compared to the later. Except for when the outfit fits the working position that the woman has ... its a disappointment to some extent.
Even if the quality was perhaps not as high compared to the Anabolic GBG series ... cumsquad/peesquad was also hot in some places.
Based on what we know I think the Wet Food 11 cast will be:
Arabella Raphael (confirmed on twitter) Sophia Burns (confirmed on twitter) Harley King (shot blowbang for Darkko this month) Willow Ryder (scene released on DarkkoTV earlier this year) Cherry Kiss (scene released on DarkkoTV this month)
First two are doubly confirmed as they wore Wet Food shirts in their tweets, but the others I could be wrong about or subject to change.
Edited by - milkofthepoosey on 11/18/2023 12:50:13 PM
Arabelle, Sophia and Harley all posted tweets of them in Wet Food shirts. Willow and Cherry blowbang scenes they never posted that giveaway. Also, Darkko wouldn't release a Wet Food scene on his own site before hes even done shooting all of them. My point is first 3 are correct but last 2 are still unknowns until you see obvious promotion. I wouldn't mind Willow Ryder again. Her and Arabelle makes me so excited for this to eventually get a release date.
^^ Quiet only because unfortunately there just isn't anything to discuss. It continues to really suck for us fans out there because there just doesn't seem to be anyone supplying this content anymore. And being one who is not much of a fan of how Darkko films his blowbangs, just my personal opinion, those scenes don't provide anything for me. Really hoping we'll hear something from Mason/XEmpire about something Facialized related here early into the new year.
Hi there, I have a request. I very much like multiple facials / bukkake / blowbang videos. But in most of these scenes, at the end girls just stand on their knees waiting for cum to cover them and doing nothing. I'd very much like to see more scenes where girls are doing active handjob / mouthjobs right until their faces are covered. For example, I also like gloryhole vids because the girls really do the job until the end, but alas it almost always end with a swallow rather than a good facial in these scenes.
Any recommandations for good scenes with multiple facial / bukkake where it's the girl that does the job with her mouth / hands until the very end ? Or a glory hole with real facial finish ?
New Madison Wilde blowbang, from HussiePass apparently, is on the way:
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I don't remember much about the blowbangs HussiePass has done previously, I am hoping this one is at least half decent. Changes nothing for me though, Madison is probably my most wanted girl for when Mason shoots her next Facialized scenes (Hopefully this Spring!!!!), she's the perfect Facialized girl!!! But lets hope this one is good too!
I don't disagree, that is probably a contributing factor - or possibly the contributing factor - but would have thought the companies that have done it regularly before, be it HardX (XEmpire), DogFart would have kept it going. Not only to bring in those fans - of which I am sure there are more than a few - who join when there's a good blowbang, I know in particular a good Facialized scene coming out and wouldn't really otherwise be members. That, and to keep the catalogues somewhat fresh, I feel like the more I look the past year+ or so it's just a whole lot of the same exact sort of scenes without any real variety, and definitely no blowbangs to appeal to all of us (minus the Molly Little Facialized scene which was, predictably, great).
She also recently shot her first gangbang, confirming that all the guys came on her face. So we can look forward to two upcoming scenes of this cutie getting blasted in the face.
I've probably said it before in this thread, but the current woeful state of the blowbang niche really makes me long for the days of Brandon Iron. His stuff in the 2000 to 2010 decade was just the best. Bakers Dozen is THE definitive blowbang series, IMO, even more so than Facialized (and some might find that statement sacrilegious!). I find Facialized somewhat one dimensional and boring sometimes. At least Brandon made some effort to change up the story line and the locations a bit here and there. RIP Brandon, I miss you.
^ I don't necessarily disagree. Brandon Iron (RIP) was simply a legend of the game. Obviously times were different which plays a big role, but with his presence there were blowbangs going nonstop it seemed. Baker's Dozen, CoverMyFace, SpermCocktail, etc... And I do agree, there was variety in terms of where they were shot, whether there was a "plot" to some of them, a relatively large variety of how many guys depending on the girl. And it's impossible to dispute the crew Brandon had for his blowbang scenes was exceptional!!
But I think it's tough to compare because of the difference in eras. With Brandon's stuff, what you and I described is what we came to expect and he never disappointed! With the Facialized series, it is what it always has been which is why, for me anyways, I never thought about it compared to Brandon's stuff - because the way in which the scenes were shot (locations and all that) was completely different, but with both you knew you'd be getting a great scene! It was definitely Brandon and now Facialized carries the banner as the standard of the current day!!
Man oh man do I miss what Brandon gave us!! And miss when we knew we could expect a Facialized every single year right around this time! Now we're in a purgatory of nothing and it SUCKS!!
^^ I agree that Brandon's work was great. I still watch his stuff. The Baker's Dozen series remains my favourite in the genre.
^ I agree that the times were different, but I wonder what it would take to bring it back. Does piracy make these expensive shoots harder to justify, or is it just that there is so much porn out there that blowbangs are lost in the noise?
All good points. I may have been a little harsh about Facialized. For every one Facialized scene that I find boring, there are 3 or 4 that are awesome. I should have reserved my ire for Dog Fart. They have so many blowbangs that could have been awesome, as a lot of them have some really nice set ups, but weak load after weak load after no load after weak load after no load has just ruined so many of their scenes. Yeah, they've gotten better the last year and a half or so - but they haven't put out a new blowbang since the Kenzie Taylor scene last fall.
It's as though we are in some post-apocalyptic period for this niche but no one witnessed the nukes going off? I mean, the output hasn't been great for awhile, but at least.....some stuff here and there.
Now Nothing at all. And not just for the BB niche. GBs too, and just about anything with more than 3 performers in a scene.
Just to point to one place I closely follow....After the pandemic it looked like Dogfart was picking up again, doing at least one every 2-3 months. not a ton but something to look forward to still. Well then I think they got sold or something; their format changed to the same thing most everyone uses. They started including stuff in their feed that was not even real content for their own site? They got rid of their excellent Pro-Am type content for whatever crazy reason. But the overall content was still OK for a bit. But I think that was just stuff that had been in production from the previous owners/producers.
Now the vast majority of their content is the most vanilla boring shit that is the same shit I see practically everywhere. 1 on 1 practically as far as the eye can see. They occasionally throw out a 2 on 1 but when you compare that with what the site used to routinely do, it just feels incredibly lame. I don't think i can justify paying for them or most any of the other humdrum crap factories.
Really Blackedraw is one of the few that is still doing proper group scenes (even if just a handful a year) but damn they are expensive. Then again if I cancel all the others it would probably make sense as far as who I should be supporting.
I suspect there is a lot of decent stuff out there on OnlyFans but I literally don't understand the business model there or how to know what I am paying for ahead of time. Like how do I become a fan of someone if I don't know them already or can't preview what it is that they are doing? (this is not just a rhetorical question; I really want to know what the deal is there!! Because I suspect I am an old idjeet and might just need to be properly educated)
Agree 100%! I go back to watch Brandon's work quite often because it stands the test of time and continues to be really great!! Just top tier type of content.
As for the reason, I wish I had the answer. I get that there is piracy and that's a big issue without a doubt, but for that to be the reason to completely abandon certain/most more niche genres is wild to me. With Mason and XEmpire's whole catalogue you used to haver the guarantee of Facialized scenes, Gangbang Me scenes and the occasional bits of variety mixed in, now it's just simply all the same - and this is not just an XEmpire problem it is seemingly everywhere. Not totally sure the reason but man is it a sad, sad reality for those of us who may only really be most interested when those 'variety' type scenes are made. Just crazy to me that they're completely abandoned when there are a good number of diehard fans who are so regularly asking for it and wanting it.
^^^ & ^^, Kasiall and Kwerkzmann: Both make great points that I've long been feeling too. DF blowbangs were there and something to look forward to, albeit always disappointing (old CumBang scenes were great though imo) because they were weak loads (as you said). But they had a lot of variety in their catalogue, the had a ton of IRBlowbangs, Cumbangs, they had big gangbangs, smaller gangling-ish scenes - from all of that to just 1 on 1 scene after 1 on 1 scene after 1 on 1 scene. Seemingly out of nowhere they just stopped. Hell the DF twitter even asked about who should be the next girl they give a blowbang to back in April and there has been nothing since. A staggeringly abrupt end to a genre that so many love it seems, just brutal.
Will keep a glimmer of faith we'll still get some Facialized news at some point this spring, but not holding my breath. Seems like we're relegated to hoping PremiumBukkake comes up with something worth anything or if one of the Japanese sites pumps some great quality out more regularly, we have nothing else.
^ I guess it's something. Nothing that really gets me all that excited but something is better than absolutely nothing at this point. I wonder if this will spurn more blowbang/bukkake scenes to come from studios....Looking specifically Mason and HardX/XEmpire and Facialized I believe they and DF are run by the same parent company so...
Shrooms Q is ready for blowbangs. Hope some producers find her tweet! For some reason I was not able the embed this specific tweet, so here is what she wrote:
SHOOTING IN MIAMI AREA UNTIL MAY 11th 🙆♀️ companies and collaborators are more then welcome to reach out! (@HussieModels). I would love to shoot BBG, STEP SISTER, VR, MAYBE SOME FIRSTS TOO. LIKE SOME BLOWBANGS, & MAYBE A LIL GANG BANG IN THERE!!!
It's an absolute joke of a situation really . Swallowing seems to be dead these days. All the great swallowers are gone - we had incredible swallowers a few years back. We had the amazing Delilah Strong, Faith Leon , Jasmine Bryne, Chelsie Rae , Taryn Thomas and Bobbi Starr. We have a fair few hot rimmers these days as it's the inn fetish but not much Swallowing in American porn these days. There are some nasty and hot chicks doing legal porno scenes with some good swallowing, piss drinking etc. Jolee Love, Ria Sunn are two very hot nasty chicks . Hope blowbangs and swallowing scenes make a comeback 🙏🤞👅👌
+10000 Before the pandemic there had been a return of this kind of scene that so many fans like.How can we not also remember the NCDA series,Sperm receptacles. Mike John is also back but I don't know if he is planning new scenes. I hope so and I hope there will be more swallowing blowbangs and gangbangs.
I really fail to understand how people can't see why producers have shied away from gangbangs and blowbangs in the West. It's like you have zero capability of taking a step back and looking at the situation.
They died when piracy became prevelant, literally over a decade ago, because of the costs. Simple as. Only the most dedicated survived, and even then they still became few and far between, and resorting to cost cutting measures like reducing the number of guys.
Let's break it down. I'm pulling the figures out my ass a little bit because I don't exactly know what rates are these days, but they're educated guesses.
Let's say you shoot a scene with 8 dudes. So let's to hire 8 dudes, $450 each, that's $3600 just to hire the dudes.
To hire the girl, let's say her base rate for a bg scene is 800. For a more hardcore act like this, let's say her rate is $1500. So that's $5100 just to hire the talent.
Then let's add on whatever bullshit fees are associated with producing a scene. Agency fees, location hiring, makeup, others involved in the production behind the camera, let's say another $2k for all that. So just to shoot one blowbang scene with 8 dudes and 1 girl, you're looking at at least $7k just to shoot it. That's $14k for 2 scenes, $21k for 3 scenes.
Is physical media even relevant today? Let's say it is and they do a physical media release. Let's say they have a deal to produce 2000 Blu Rays for $4 a pop. That's $8k for your physical media run. So to release this 3-scene movie, it's going to cost almost $30k. How many of these blurays will sell these days? Anyone's guess.
So forget the physical media and let's look at subscription instead. They put the scenes up on their subscription sites. Let's say it's $30 a month, so less credit card fees and web hosting fees and bandwidth fees etc., let's say one $30 subscription gives them $14 of actual net income. To recoup the costs of those 3 scenes for $20k, they'd need almost 1500 subscribers to offset the cost. And yet all it takes is for one of those 1500 subscribers to be a dick and upload it to some torrent site, and your $7k scene or $20k movie is all over the internet for absolutely free.
So why the fuck would you take the risk of spending $20k+ on one blowbang or gangbang movie, when your chance of recouping the costs is incredibly low?
The only reason you have outliers like premiumbukkake or analvids is you have someone rich bankrolling everything, you take advantage of the girls who are from less developed nations, or you simply pump out volume in the hopes that it offsets the costs in the long run.
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Posted - Apr 28 2024 : 8:43PM
and if anything id bet your cost guesses are low*. i think the average performer cost is 1500 for just b/g anal. id guess for a fairly new girl youre looking at $5000< just for a single blowbang (id love to know what molly littles rate was for her facialized scene). id bet if you wanted to get an a lister like mason did for massive facials back in the day youd be looking at 15k-20k just for her fee.
theres also other advantages pbk and spermmania have. thanks to socialized medicine the guys tests are essentially free, so neither they or the production have to cover what would be a massive production cost. and since they use amateur guys their rates are going to be way lower than american industry pros (who are going to have to turn down other shoots to do it). Hell im not even sure they are paid. when texasbukkake started (and was putting out A+ content) i dont know the guys WERE paid since my understanding is it was just dudes from the east texas swinging scene.
*brandon iron said the most he spent on a bakers dozen scene was $50k. ive always assumed it was amy reids scene which had 2 girls 12+ guys and was right around the time amy won best new starlet at avn. still if $50k was the HIGH end of blowbangs 15 years ago, with inflation id bet its the moderate cost at this point. id bet something like jenna haze/lisa ann/lexi belle/bonnie rottens MF scenes would cost you nearly $100k at this point
No doubt I realize the high cost,but I hope that even the actresses in order to remain in history can ask for something less. One of the most incredible scenes in recent years remains that of Angela White,as incredible as the entire dvd. I would still like to see more swallowing scenes even if they are not blowbangs. Sometimes in the finale the camera fades out or there are too many facials. The great performers there are Angela,Liz Jordan,Gia Derza,Alena,Valentina...and many fans love this genre
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