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| HeidiHanson Member  Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 |  Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:02PMHi Guys! Ok, so a few of my friends and I have been going around with a debate, should gals in porn go for the boob job, or stay natural, even if on the less endowed side? Seems to me, its just a matter of time before gals with A or B cups are either pressured into a boob job by managers/agents/ others, or perhaps they feel like their careers will go further with one? I have this issue myself from time to time... I wanted a boob job since I was 15, and only ended up an A cup (skinny gals never have boobs unless they buy them! LOL) but never did it for a few reasons -- money, kinda weird having plastic in there, I play sports and being A cup is pretty convenient (no bouncing or backackes), I like to sleep on my stomach, all my boyfriends have liked my perky tits with large nipples..on and on.. HOWEVER my agent and manager have mentioned it several times that some bolt-ons would make a lot more guys happy.. But I am just not sure.. What do YOU guys think???? In general, and about myself as well?  [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:07PM Some of my favourite boobjobs: Jessica Lynn, Shawna Lenee, Madelyn Marie, Britney Amber, Phoenix Marie, Shyla Stylez (the first one), Kimberly Franklin, Lichelle Marie, Amandla (swedish redhead) and Jenni Lee. Edited by - jaktarn on 6/2/2009 6:08:46 PM  [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:17PM I am not pro or con, just curious if its even really necessary... Most guys are happy with a mouthful, although there are breast obsessed guys, too! ;o) [Link] |
| Cornell Lingus Senior Member Carryin', contrarian, libertarian 2982 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:19PM [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:21PM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:26PM [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:27PM I thought that link was in my profile... will go add it! [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:31PM I got it to work from your post now and you could easily pull of a small boobjob. [Link] |
| anj Member 142 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:33PM [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:35PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 6:42PM [Link] |
| mbmalpha137 Member 386 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 7:16PM [Link] |
| Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 8:38PM They look awesome in a swim-suit. They don't look awesome when I take it off. (unless I pose JUST RIGHT) My boyfriend hates them. He knew me 'before' and thinks what I did to my boobs is criminal. He still loves me. Any man who wants you will not care one way or the other, even though he probably will have a preference. The preference will probably be "no implants". When I was younger I thought bigger was better. I thought I looked un-womanly. I thought my lopsided little boobies would be better if they were at least lopsided big boobies. All the popular girls had big tits. Now I'm older, I know better. Little boobies are perky and fresh and cute and just as womanly and pretty as big tits. Bigger tits are just bigger - they aren't better. You won't earn much more in porn with implants. If you're a feature dancer you will earn more if your job turns out nice and doesn't look too wonky. Same thing if you're an escort. My opinion (and advice if you're asking) is "don't do it". [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 9:01PM My sister had hers done, but she weighs twice as much as I do so they blend right in. Luckily she never had any issues with them (well, so far!) I was thinking of staying pretty small IF I ever did it.. but man being able to fill out a bathing suit would be nice, the only lure is the stuff you can't wear (well) being perky tittied --- tee hee.. but I am fine with them as they are. You're right, most guys I know say NOOOOOO!! too, so thanks for your input, and perhaps I will just have to remain popular amongst those guys who prefer natural and perky over big and buxom.. ;o) There's room for every shape and style girl in the world, or at least there should be... Sincerely Heidi [Link] |
| SexDriven75 Member 193 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 9:30PM When will the implant craze end? No 'real man' would choose to play with toys over the real thing. I've been especially surprised by some stars getting implants who really didn't need them (Katja Kassin, Sophie Dee). Check out my ADT thread Favorite New Starlets and POV! [Link] |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 9:46PM [Link] |
| absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 9:57PM However, I can see the argument for big boobs, especially in the MILF obsessed phase of porn we are currently in, but I don't remember big boobs being a prerequisite in the cougar handbook...lol I can see getting implants for improving ones self esteem, if/when self esteem is a serious issue, or for filling out clothing properly, if other means of enhancement aren't working adequately. Reconstructive surgery is of course another very good reason. Other than that, I just don't see the benefits, when looking at it from a risk V. reward perspective. Edited by - absynth on 6/2/2009 9:58:38 PM [Link] |
| Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 10:16PM *****The Dr. of Nasty***** [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 10:25PM Besides, the opinions of my friends/fans/passersby helps me make my descisions when I am on the fence.. so far NO is winning... :P Just messin with ya Dr No.. [Link] |
| absynth Member absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 10:47PM [Link] |
| Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 10:51PM I also don't like when girls ask us our opinion when they already know what they will do and so on. Do what you want is all I can say. *****The Dr. of Nasty***** [Link] |
| detmut Member 91 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 11:46PM [Link] |
| jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 11:57PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 2 2009 : 11:57PM (Disclaimer: I don't know who you are, and I don't know who represents you, so I'm not making any specific allegations about any specific individuals. I simply don't believe that the trend we've seen over the last five years for large percentages of the girls in the business to get implants -- even girls who have spectacular natural racks -- would have happened if money wasn't changing hands behind the scenes.) [Link] |
Gentleman Jon  All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:34AM [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:34AM I wondered that myself. I am not just talking about my own Yay or Nay, I have seen a lot of stars get them, like its a rite of passage or something, a year or so into the business, out comes the boob job card. Like Jenny Hendrix was adorable before the boobs, and she still is. Either way it probably didn't matter in her case. I have been a mainstream fashion model for years, and small boobs go along with the territory..Being fairly new to the porn world, its all new to me what people expect the gals to do, what the gals expect themselves to do, or conceive what everyone else expects from them. I will leave it as saying 1) I would love to have bigger (like perhaps full b/ almost c) boobs, but my body type is, and always has been, lean/toned; and unless I gain 20 lbs in my ass, my boobs won't follow... and since 2) I have a fairly toned ass now, then #1 is not gonna be an option 3) I don't oppose implants, if they look good, and its a personal decision (which it would be in my case) - I just posed the question because more of the behind the scenes people in the biz have mentioned a boob job to me and my friends than fans have (which makes your comment make more sense now)- 4) if I ever, for whatever motivation, get one, speaking only for myself, it would be a midlife crisis type of thing (I would think, although that's years off in my book) - guys buy a porche, gals get boobs? Sounds about right... And because you only live once, it could be nice in my final stretch to live on the other end of the stick.. or rack LOL....maybe... or not.. But most likely I would just say WTF and be skinny, perky and small tittied forever... ;O) 5) as for the other part of the question, boob job or no boob job for other gals, I would say to leave it alone, too.. Natural is good -- hey, I am and example of a fairly rarer type of star for a variety of reasons, in addition to having a full bush as it is, why not go all the way with natural boobs! I am glad for you guys and gals comments though, so I will take the opinions to the table as my arsenal.. next time it comes up! [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:42AM But don't worry about if you don't appeal to every demographic. Instead, try to make yourself even more appealing to porn fans who are already predisposed to like you. Accentuate the assets that you already have, instead of fretting about what you think you lack. But Kimi's post is probably the best advice in this thread so far. I agree. I think actually instead of a new set of boobs, I need a new agent. I think that pressure is enforced so that if I would or other gals would go under the knife, appeal to a larger audience, THEY (agent) could make more money. I am probably going to go the route my best freind and manager suggests, and do my own thing/own dvd's/own solo site, the way I want to do it, and for whom I want to make happy (myself and my current fans of course)..after all, for ME, porn is a sexual outlet and the occasional income is a happy consequence. Thanks guys!! [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 1:55AM All i will say is that some of the agents/directors pushing every girl to become a fake tit/bleached blonde cliché seem to be stuck in the 1980's. these guys clearly have no idea what many fans actually want, i guess they can comfort themselves by blaming all drops in dvd sales on piracy rather than actually listening to what the paying customers think. Edited by - wheat on 6/3/2009 2:03:32 AM [Link] |
| junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 2:46AM Wayne In Dallas [Link] |
| Jordan1 Member Fishing, a fun hobby! 490 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 5:31AM The most egregious horror is when they have some of the best looking breasts on the planet and then they go and destroy them! Just because some of them are small, they feel the need to go and fuck them up. Two of my favorite small breasted performers that sent shock waves through me when I found out that they recently stuffed themselves are Ice La Fox and Isis Love. WHY???!!!! Since they've been around for a while, I thought that they had enough self-confidence to not fall victim to the pressure. Unfortunately, even some of the most seemingly self-confident ones eventually succumb. I just don't understand why women feel the need to do that to themselves when there isn't anything wrong with them. Most guys prefer a all-natural woman. I believe there is some nefarious reason why most higher-ups keep pushing performers into getting them, promising them more money and fame. I personally think that it's all bullshit! There are a lot of natural-breasted performers who earn top dollar & win awards. If I were a big-time director and/or producer, I would give priority to the natural-breasted performers. To me, this would be the right thing to do because their look is unique to them instead of the cookie-cutter look and therefore makes it more appealing. Heidi, until now I had never heard of you. I just went to Freeones to see for myself. You would be surprised how many fans out there only like small breasts, so I still say stay natural. [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 8:05AM Confidence is sexy and you don't get confidence from surgery. Good marketing makes you money, not surgery. If your agent can't do that for you then get another agent. You are very marketable. Kimi, I'm glad you're here. I've heard the same thing from other top stars. I wish they would also post their experiences. [Link] |
| Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 8:11AM My preference is natural, it's ok if they aren't perfect. A boob job that turns out bad can't really be justified. [Link] |
| Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 8:15AM *****The Dr. of Nasty***** [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 8:18AM [Link] |
| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:20PM This message board has always been chock full of hardcore old-school fans of porn, who for some reason seem to be disproportionately on the side of real boobs. Meanwhile, inside the porn industry most of the girls have gotten a boobjob. Why have they gotten a boob job? Because they make more money, either from work, feature dancing, or escorting. If you are 18-22, implants aren't necessary to get work in the business. if you are 25-31, implants would probably help you get more work. If you are over 31, a boobjob is almost required to be honest. And by the way, the implication that agents are getting kickbacks for referring girls to get boob jobs as their main motivation for pushing them to do it isn't false. Agents simply know that the girl will work more because of them, thus making the agent more money. That's a pretty simple concept unless you are a conspiracy theorist. [Link] |
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| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:33PM [Link] |
| Jordan1 Member Fishing, a fun hobby! 490 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:52PM I've been a subscriber to Videobox for years. They have global viewership and I have yet to see a vast majority of posters there say that they prefer bolt-ons. In fact, much like here at ADT, the overwhelming amount of posters do not like implants. This is also true anecdotally within my friends and family. What I believe is happening is that the power brokers in the industry are the ones who are driving the market for money being made. They are purposely forcing contract girls to get them by threatening them with the reprisal of them not being in features, and are also giving the better parts and deals to bolt-on performers. [Link] |
| Cerebral Jedi Senior Member I don't trust men who don't like big tits. 1067 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 12:55PM [Link] |
| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 1:31PM [Link] |
| Cerebral Jedi Senior Member I don't trust men who don't like big tits. 1067 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 2:24PM And if the money dries up, the companies would change to reflect what most of the people want.Edited by - Cerebral Jedi on 6/3/2009 2:25:05 PM [Link] |
| wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 2:48PM Edited by - wheat on 6/3/2009 5:29:00 PM [Link] |
| Stud_Rob Member 703 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 3:01PM [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 5:41PM Having said all of that, if you *you* would like implants, for yourself, and you feel that *you* would feel more attractive, than it's worth a thought. Pressure from your agent to conform to what seems to sell better shouldn't be the reason you go under the knife (much as I can see why, from a business perspective, they might encourage it.) Best wishes. John [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 6:02PM ..and no, I am not 'just another porn star' by default; for one, I am not in the business as a sole career, I only model if the job suits me,(I work as a horse trainer so have other income) and two, I am working on my own projects with help of my best friend, an XXX producer who likes to work outside the box anyway,(which means more arty and picky projects catering to a smaller more specific demographic),three, I will have my own solo site up and as another mentioned before, I will be pretty much only concerned with those guys who like my look anyway, not trying to appeal to Bang Bro's or Reality Kings etc.. Although I did have a shoot approved with Reality Kings, I just didn't take it because the male talent was not to my liking.. So I can afford to be picky, I work as much or little as I want, I am not trying to be Jenna or Tara, just little ole me that gets off getting others off, wherever that road takes me... ;o), and four, I am already a niche product with a fluffy, soft bush, so that puts me away from the cookie cutter gals already.. And the bush stays.... [Link] |
| SexDriven75 Member 193 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 6:17PM It seems to me that when a girl has it in her head that she wants implants, it's the beginning of the end. The end result seems inevitable and no amount of "No Don't Do It"'s can prevent it. Don't worry, there's plenty of fresh new young (all-natural) girls always cumming into the biz to make fans able to boycott those who get implants (you hear that Katja K. and Sohphie D.?). My advice? Trim the bush and put on 20lbs. Check out my ADT thread Favorite New Starlets and POV! [Link] |
| JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 6:24PM I completely agree with you; if you're only taking what work you want to take, than implants wouldn't be a justifiable expense or risk. Warm wishes, John [Link] |
| Jordan1 Member Fishing, a fun hobby! 490 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 7:15PM There are many things that directors do in movies that the viewers definitely don't like but they continually do it anyway. One is in b/g scenes in which most of the time the male performer is jacking himself off to cum. If because of stopping and starting while shooting messes things up, why the fuck don't they just tell the male to jack off until he's close and let the woman take over and begin shooting again. Even if they show him jacking off, at very least show the woman taking over. Is that so difficult? Another one is in g/g strap-on scenes. They'll show them sucking a strap-on for several minutes. Pointless really as hardly anyone actually enjoys seeing that but this is almost always done. As I've stated in another thread, only on occasion in Dom scenes does it have any value, and then only for a short period of time. My point is that on certain issues they simply don't give a fuck. They feel that they can to a degree force the viewers to accept want they want because if they don't, and say, I won't watch any movie with implants, their choices will be limited in some otherwise good material. So the viewer has to grudgingly accept that this just goes with a part of porn. Believe me, I have a ton of bolt-on footage, but obviously it's not because I want to see it. It's because I had no fucking choice because either the DVD had other scenes I preferred, or that a scene I downloaded had a performance that was good and I just have to try to not to look at the bolt-ons because it's not something that turns me on. It kind of reminds me of Henry Ford's infamous comment talking about his cars. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something like, I don't care what color the car is as long as it's black. Even though the consumers were begging for different colors, he didn't care and everyone had to deal with it because they wanted a car. Maybe one day bolt-ons will go the way of one color only Model T's, relegated into old history. To cap off my point, lets say that almost all of the movers and shakers felt like me, you would hardly ever see implants in the industry because the performers would know that getting them would make it more difficult for them. What the female performers should all do is be proud of their bodies and not let these people brain-wash them into thinking that their tits are inferior just because they aren't DD's and I guarantee that the sales will not drop. As I also stated earlier, there are a lot of natural-breasted performers that make top-dollar and win awards in spite of the discrimination by these higher-ups of natural-breasted woman in the industry because of their outstanding performances and confidence. I just thought about something. I have yet to see a DVD or Website entitled: Bolt-ons Only, or similar. You will however see a lot of DVD's and Websites that are for natural-breasted viewing. Hmmmmmm, I wonder why that is. Heidi, keep what you have! You'll be better off. [Link] |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 7:19PM Great post by the way. I think you make a lot of sense. This is a feeling I have had a while but haven't been able to formulate. [Link] |
| HeidiHanson Member Make it Real or Forgeddaboutit! 76 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 7:52PM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 8:24PM As for the supposed preference of the masses for implants, well, look at the top performers of today, look at their boobs, and make the decision for yourself. (And in answer to the request to trim your bush, I say, let your garden grow! That light pubic hair looks fantastic--as do you in general--in those pics on free ones. I'd definitely pay money to see your scenes.) [Link] |
| codybangs Digital Playground 676 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 9:05PM Not to go off topic, I think the hardest girls to find in this biz is one who is completely natural without tattoos and piercings everywhere. I think that's where the market where it can grow well if you're a cute new girl. Most importantly really, just do with makes you feel happy. Because if you're not happy with them, why are you going to make yourself miserable? [Link] |
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