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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 12 2014 : 10:06AM
This is not a poll. What I'd like to know, preferably from posters that have had/have memberships with both sites, is: (1) Are the two sites so similar that they could be clones? (2) Even if they are clones, did/do you consider the content of the second site to be important to have? (3) I already have Brazzers (also RealityKings, BangBros, Mofos, Babes, Twistys and PeterNorth.com). Give me three reasons why I should or shouldn't add NaughtyAmerica. Money is not the issue here; Quality is. Also time. Do I want to spend the time collecting scenes from yet another site? If the quality is there, my answer is probably yes. HD content downloadable as MP4 files is a must. (4) Suggest other membership sites that you think are worthwhile. Thanks.
Here's my opinion on this: Honestly, I'm generally disappointed by what NA produces so I haven't rejoined in a long time. However, there is a ton of material in their catalog and so if you have the time to sift through it you will probably find stuff that you like since there is so much. And they generally cast really well with a lot of top names etc. The problem occurs in the presentation where its often pretty vanilla. But like I said, there's so much of it that you can probably find enough scenes to warrant 1 month's subscription. Just don't expect it to be super hardcore stuff. As far as other subscriptions -- that's tough to say, it depends on what you like. If you are able to join for one month its easy to spend some time downloading content. The problem with porn right now is that, in general, good content is not being produced at the same rate that poor-medocre quality is. And so what you get today is something like Brazzers where you get one good scene a week. NA might have a good one ever 2 weeks. Evil Angel has so many niches that I'm not into that it cuts into the amount of output that I want to see, so I don't join. Jules Jordan is pretty good but the update schedule is every other day. Hardx is great but the update schedule is weekly. ZTOD hasn't put out a good movie in a long time (tomorrow though is Veruca James no limits, which should be awesome). RK got really bad after the Manwin acquisition and now puts out maybe 1 worthy scene a week maybe. The Kelly Madison sites have a decent catalog but their output is not high (once a week...?) Elegant Angel has a great catalog and is highly representative of the latest boom/bust porn cycle (with 2013 starting the great porn recession in content) Wicked has been off their game for awhile but recently released the Samantha Saint is completely wicked 2 movie (which I'm hoping is a sign they are going to produce more hardcore stuff.) Also Asa Akira is a contract star with them now if you like her. I think its worth joining these sites (but probably do them one at a time as there is too much content to process all at once.) Jules Jordan ZTOD Elegant Angel Evil Angel Here's a link to my previous post about this: My XXX website subscription breakdown
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 12 2014 : 10:59AM
Hard to answer your question without knowing your preferences. (1) Both sites a very similar these days. Brazzers used to be a little more kinky/harder. But ZZ changend over the past 1-2 years. The camera work and lighting is awful now and the content has become very vanilla just like Naughty America. (3) I can only speak for myself but NA scenes are very boring. But if you like vanilla porn, NA would be perfect for you. Now the tricky part..the main male talent is one of the smallest and thinnest guys in the biz. It's no joy to watch. It's more like finger fucking. But maybe you don't care about stuf like that. Plus absolutely no egdy stuff. Mostly non-anal B/G scenes. So not much variety there. (4)My honset opinion, avoid the networks and join HardX, Elegant Angel, Jules Jordan or Evil angel.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 12 2014 : 11:26AM
^ One of the biggest strengths Brazzers has is the strength of its studs. Johnny Sins is currently about the best stud in the business. Danny D has a huge cock, that the girls look great playing with it, and reliably blows a great load. Keiran Lee (when he's not in the "douchebag English dickhead" personna... think Ben English), is a reliable-big-hard-cock-that-blows-a-load for the girls to work off. Studs make-or-break the scene, and too many sites and scenes suffer from lackluster male talent, that's for sure.
I will say that in most people's opinion, Naughty America loses out to Brazzers on the male talent front. They do use Johnny Sins, but not as much as Brazzers, and Kieran and Danny are contracted so they've never used them. Johnny Castle does about as many scenes for them as Kieran does for Brazzers, and Bill Bailey does about as much as Danny. Both have enough Brazzers scenes that you can judge them on their own merit there. Now to answer the proposed questions: 1.) As has been stated, they are very similar, but Brazzers has the harder edge, so NA basically compares to the more tame Brazzers scenes. 2.) There's more than enough good content there to be worth joining for a month to watch it. Whether you want to be there for longer kinda depends on what you like. 3.) The main reason to join is the archive (6000+ scenes going back to 2004-5). The main reason not to is if you don't like vanilla porn.
There are 4 sites that offer a similar type of porn. There's Naughty America (NA), Brazzer, Reality Kings (RK) and Bangbros(BB). The first two tend to offer small scenario based porn while the other two tend to offer real (fake) amateurs having sex. For the most part they all hire the same girls with RK and BB having a much bigger amount of new girls but I think it's more a question of where they shoot as opposed to their ability at finding new talent. NA and Brazzer seem to only hire known porn performers and if you do a good job than you are likely to comeback while the same can't be said for the girls on the other two sites. I think the biggest difference between Brazzer and NA is that the sex on NA tends to be a little more vanilla. It's still hot but there is less a feeling of circus act porn. One of my pet peeves with Brazzer is that their directors have a tendency of shooting their sex scenes in such a way that you get a variety of angles but there is often very little actual heat between the players. It makes for more intense sex but less passionate. Another big difference is that NA has significantly less anal scenes than Brazzer. I believe they have the least amount out of the 4 sites I named. Now that can be great news for someone who doesn't like anal because you know you'll get a lot more standard porn. Since you have already mentioned some of the male performers on Brazzer than I checked NA's 12 most recent updates here is the breakdown. Derrick Pierce has 2 scenes, Bill Bailey has 2 scenes and so does Johnny Castle. Then you have Mark Wood, Daniel Hunter, Rocco Reed, Danny Mountain, Seth Gamble and Bruce Venture each with one scene. If you are the type of person who enjoys watching porn performers play a role in a scenario based scene where they will have a more standard type of sex but any less hot and passionate than NA should meet your needs.
I wonder why Naughty America tries to pass for a milf site ("milf porn movies, hot milf sex videos and more" is what you read when you enter the site) when you see milf stuff only occasionally and with always younger "milfs" as any other generalistic site. Few years ago it was possible to find more mature stuff (from women in their forties to those in their sixties like Jewel or Lola Lee), now the only woman over fifty who sometimes shoots for them is Deauxma. "Milf porn movies"? Please.
^ Because you're probably the only person I've seen say that MILF starts anywhere near 50, as most people would say somewhere around 35-40 (and they shoot tons of MILF movies with women in their 40s like Julia Ann or Lisa Ann or Emma Starr or Veronica Avluv or Brandi Love or Darla Crane or......I don't think I need to keep going at this point.) Or, more to the point, I'd argue that they probably shoot more MILF porn than any of the other major networks, and because of the volume of scenes that they shoot/release in general, they might even generally shoot more hardcore (as in b/g) MILF porn than any other site on the internet. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 4/12/2014 6:46:06 PM Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 4/12/2014 6:48:03 PM
I haven't say that, I've said that years ago they weren't "vanilla" even about the age of performers, it was possible to find also older women. But I agree with you that aforty years old like the ones you've mentioned are certainly milfs. But you see girls in their early thirties or even in their twenties called like that. And by the way, on Naughty america that if they shoot twenty scenes just two or three are milf scenes, so it's just a generalistic vanilla porn site. I doubt that if you want to pay for a site to see interracial you would choose a site were occasionaly you can find also an interracial scene.
Actually, I would join a site like Jules Jordan or Evil Angel specifically for their interracial scenes, even though I know that it isn't all that they do, because my tastes aren't narrow enough that I wouldn't be able to find any other scenes I like there. But that's not the argument we started with. My actual point was that, even if they do only shoot 2-3 MILF scenes per every 20 scenes (it's actually a tad bit higher than that, but that's not the point either), because they release 13 scenes every week, that still adds up to about 65-90 b/g MILF scenes a year, which is more than nearly every other site out there, including the ones that cater exclusively to MILFs.
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IRLover91 Deactivated User
1091 Posts 11/13
Posted - Apr 12 2014 : 9:14PM
Skip both, try BB or RK. Don't waste time on Mofos.
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"Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13
Posted - Apr 12 2014 : 10:54PM
^ I agree. Unless, of course, you're someone who needs the porn scene to have a storyline and you enjoy pornstars trying their hand at acting.
Well, they no longer shoot amateur/semi-pro performers and go through model agencies almost exclusively for their talent these days. That's pretty much the sole reason those older women no longer feature on NA, I would say.
Is there a reason for that? Anyway lately it's been hard to see also performers like Nina Hartley, Persia Monir, Vanessa Videl, Amber Lynn, Sexy Vanessa, Erica Lauren, Magdalene St. Michaels, Rebecca Bardoux, just to mention few performers that I wouldn't certainly consider amateurs or semi-pro.
How many of them are agency-represented and located in California, or are willing to fly out on their own dime? NA in their early days was just an upstart company and they used to do things quite a bit differently than more established companies, including paying for performers to travel to NA's shooting locations...smaller outfits in places like Arizona or the East Coast still operate that way, but NA is just another cog in the Valley porn machine these days. (Didn't they also move their main studios from San Diego to LA a couple of years ago?) I really don't think there's any special reason for the ways they've changed, except that as they grew they found that being "just another company" is easier on the bottom line.
^ Their main production headquarters has been in LA since like 2005-6 or sometime around there. It's their corporate headquarters was (and still is) in San Diego. What happened a few years ago was that they had to shut down their main studio completely, and rely on using the same houses/sets as everyone else (in other words, they couldn't afford the overhead of keeping the studio running just to make their scenes). And for a lot of those women, it's not even that they aren't willing to bring them out there, so much as, as they've become more and more mainstream, those scenes have been doing worse and worse on their site. The people that have been members for years sometimes appreciate them, but the people that have joined over the past 3-4 years basically hate them and want to see the same mainstream performers that they see everywhere else.
who directs at Naughty america ?? Mark wood ?? The filming is way better for N.A , good angles on all positions !! The thing for N.A is there is seduction , sensual and erotic play before the performers had sex and thats what i like !! Sites like my first sex teacher , my friends hot mom !! so hot watch
Both Brazzers and NA's primary function is to attract people who like B/G porn with all but one of the sites on each network being B/G. If that's what you like then it's worth joining one or the other as there's a ton of content on each network. If you like G/G then don't waste your time as it's not worth it. 1. yes I think they are too similar because it seems like both networks are trying to pit one site against the others to see who's got the best. I.E 'big tits in sport vs. naughty athletics, big tits at work vs. naughty office etc, etc 2. Only if you feel you have to everything available. 3. Reasons not to join. 1. Not enough G/G content. 2. Inferior content to Brazzers. 3. Not enough variety (DP, DV, IR, etc, etc) I guess you could roll those three reasons into one. Reasons to join, I can only think of one, some of the most recent content is 4K. I personally don't have much time for either so I would suggest the DDF network first and 21st sextury as a back-up. Both sites cater for most niches in equal amounts and all in HD (1080, 720, 480) Oh, and on another note, as an Englishman and a proud Englishman we'll have less of the "douchebag English dickhead" jibe thank you very much. Edited by - lezlover on 4/14/2014 7:07:29 PM
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 14 2014 : 8:40PM
(1) Thank you for your thoughtful response. (2) The "douchebag English dickhead" remark was in reference to one performer, and one of the character personnas that performer employs from time to time. In no way meant to disparagingly characterize Englishmen, or English porn performers, as a group.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 1:50PM
Went ahead and joined NaughtyAmerica today, to add to my membership sites. For me, being very similar to Brazzers is a good thing. LOTS of girls that I want to see more of, and NA happens to have them. What pushed right over the edge, however, was that they have a hardcore scene of Jayden Taylors -- with her original equipment (i.e. pre boob-job and pre all the new god-awful ink). "Original" Jayden Taylors has become my new mission in life. Two things to note when you join (I joined for 1-year membership): (1) Be sure to uncheck a pre-checked trial membership gotcha (and I always take screencaps to prove that that's what I did before clicking to join any site). (2) NA considers the 1-year membership to be a "trial" membership. WTF! It gets worse: after your 1-year "trial membership" is up, they will automatically start re-billing on a monthly basis at $24.95/per month. WTF! So, be sure to mark your calendars to remind you to address this before they roll you over and start screwing you :) Content looks great, though.
Thanks Goldstein, I had a sneaky feeling that's what you might've meant so having cleared that up there's no offence taken on my part :) I would still highly recommend the DDF network though. Edited by - lezlover on 4/15/2014 3:08:28 PM
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 4:26PM
^ I've encountered a few 4k videos so far, but haven't tried downloading one yet. I'm not certain that my PowerDVD12 can play 4k (although I know beginning with PowerDVD13 it can).
I Always Judge the sites on their ff and ffm content. Because those are the scene I like. Brazzers: Has the most ffm content and a steady hot and mean series. But Hot and mean only has one good scene a month. The ffm content is not steady. Sometimes there are weeks with 3 ffm scenes. Other weeks there is hardly one ffm scene. Naughty America: Almost no lesbian stuf. Mainly fm scenes. Hardly any ffm stuff except for 2 chicks same time. In that series one out of 5 scenes is good. The rest is too clean and boring. Bangbross: Had a great series called Milfsoup. There where some nice ffm scene but suddenly they stopped. Also their lesbian stuff Party of three suddenly stopped. That lesbian series had 1 good scene every two months. The rest was boring. Nowadays they jump into the mother-daughter-boyfriend stuff. 1 out of every 4 scenes is ok. Reality Kings: I love this site the most with a steady flow of In the VIp (lesbian and ffm orgy), mombangsteens is great (1 out of 3 scenes is good). They have a good flow of other ffm scenes. I am a bit bored with we live together. I miss the 3-somes and the light is tooo fucking bright. All together these sites are ok but they are all too soft in general. Brazzers used to be edgy but is becoming more boring. They also shoot more and more in a studio in stead of location. For me evil angel has the most variety and the still have nast yshit to offer.
Just so you know, you can cancel pretty much anytime in the next 11 months (I mean I wouldn't cancel today, but next week should be fine), and that will stop them from rebilling you and you'll keep the rest of your membership, so you don't have to remember to cancel 10 months from now or something.
I've looked at both for the Galaxy Awards and would have a hard time justifying both. In my opinion, Brazzers has a much better network with more variety. If it were a coin toss between the networks and money was an issue, it would still be a no brainer for me as I think Naughty America disrespects its supporters by only allowing them to view their movies in anamorphic widescreen on their website and refuses to put out their DVDs in anamorphic widescreen despite those who buy their DVDs paying a premium price to get those scenes. “No man’s life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session” - Mark Twain
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 8:56AM
I'm continuing to enjoy the NaughtyAmerica content, and am glad I went ahead and added it to my portfolio. But, porn is porn, and there are always the navigating-the-minefield gotchas the porn consumer constantly has to be alert to. Here are two more (numbered here as 3 and 4): (3) When you login to the membership pages, the entire page is, in effect, ads for add-on upcharge sites. You actually have to carefully click on another "Continue To Member's Area" box. I mention this because clicking on any of the ads "+ Access Now" boxes -- and I'm sure they nail a lot of people who do so merely out of curiosity -- signs you up for a $17.95 month-to-month rebilled until cancelled add-on site (using your credit card information they already have from when you originally joined). This isn't my first rodeo, so I wasn't nailed. However, in reviews I read about the site before joining, people have complained about exactly this being done to them. (4) .f4v files There are quite a few scenes where the higher-resolution (e.g. 1080 and 720 HD "MP4" content) is only available for download as an .f4v file -- instead of just giving you a standard .mp4 file that is compatible with everything. The .f4v file appears to be a restrictive container with embedded ".mp4" content. Now, if all you want to do is watch the file on your computer, fine (sort of). FYI, PowerDVD 12 is unable to play these files. However, the excellent and free VLC Media Player can play these files beautifully. The problem is for guys like me that want to edit and harvest files (e.g. edit and keep a standalone cumshot clip) -- PowerDirector 10, for example, cannot open or process .f4v files -- and/or simply play the files on computers and media players of my choosing. I have found a temporary work-a-round using Audials Tunebite Platinum 10 (Note: v11 is now available). Audials Tunebite Platinum 10 can extract the underlying .mp4 file and allow you to convert and save it as multiple file types and qualities (including .mp4). The drawback is that Audials Tunebite Platinum 10 is only capable of outputting the file at a maximum of 720 HD resolution. Still a watchable quality result, but not 1080 HD. And, what a lot of unnecessary extra work I'm hoping that .f4v support will become more widespread with mainstream video editing and playback programs, without all the container and conversion nonsense, going forward.
^ I don't have a NA subscription right now (and no f4v files from when I did) to try it out, but Avidemux might be able to extract the 1080p videos from the Flash container and remux them to a standard MP4.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 4:19PM
^ I'm doing this already with Audials Tunebite Platinum 10. Also, it actually looks like the files Audials is creating are 1080 (even though the conversion menu shows 720 as the highest setting). It is still a pain-in-the-ass.
Automatic no-buy for me. I have trouble just typing my password. And it sounds like they are set up to scam us dopes. Edited by - Blackie on 4/18/2014 4:49:17 PM
No, I'm fairly sure you're not. As far as I can tell, Tunebite is outright re-encoding the file, not merely remuxing it to a different container format (which is a matter of seconds, as long as Avidemux can read the file correctly, and preserves the video content exactly).
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wolvie667 Deactivated User
4467 Posts 4/11
Posted - Apr 20 2014 : 12:52AM
I think Brazzers has the upperhand. Just because for me NA there scenes are starting to look-a-like.. And NA does have thing for bringing out a lot of scenes from one website of theirs after each other... Like 3 or four MFHM scenes in a week. At least brazzers just spreads all of it.
BRAZZERS - silicone babes , more money , contract studs !! mass production !! Mass members !! Naughty america - financially less rich , less money , quality way better , niche market !!
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zooloo752 Deactivated User
5 Posts 10/16
Posted - Oct 16 2016 : 4:05AM
why N.A has stopped using xander corvus and jessy jones ?? rates are too high ?? cut costs ?? instead proposing limp dick small dick - damon dice , sean lawless , van wylde to us ??
For me Brazzers is finished when you leave James deen, Jordan Ash, Manual Ferrara and you work with Keiran, Danny D, Jordi !!!for me it's the stupidity Is this Keiran better than James ,Jordan , Manual !!! I have seen here many post as "best scenes in 2015" "best scene in 2016" no person wrote that Keiran has done a good scene no person wrote the name of Keiran or the name of Danny D Danny D hhhha all these scenes is stupid all these scenes are cold Kerian like to be as Manual since a long time he can not have they left all good pornostars for people watching ONLY Kerian and despite that many people do not like . Jordan was the best in Brazzers they saw it it has fired all that to make it stupid Propaganda has Kerian
Good to bring this topic back to life. I Always loved 2chicks same time... but the setups are all the same and the lack of interaction between women is a big flaw.. Brazzers.... I only watch the gg and ffm stuff and it has ups and downs... in quality. The quantoty of ffm scenes is strange. Sometimes weeks wothout any ffm and there are weeks with 3 ffm scenes in one week.
I'm no longer a member of either, but if I had to re-join one it would be Brazzers because, as Aya said, they still do G/G. Naughty America revived the 'Lesbian Girl On Girl' site (just like bangbros did with PO3), probably to generate extra revenue from G/G fans thinking they were bringing it back, and then (just like bangbros did) after 1 scene, tossed it back in the trash bin. Speaking of Brazzers though, they did 3 HAM scenes in 7 days!!! As far as I can remember they have never done that before, so credit to them for doing so.
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hoochimama Deactivated User
1437 Posts 5/10
Posted - Oct 26 2016 : 9:40AM
Vanilla vs Vanilla. Mostly the same chicks, similar shooting styles etc. Brazzers should edge ahead since they do have a bit more variety to their stuff, if something's trending like Pokemon Go they'll make porn of it, they have more costume and scenario variety. NA is more milf centered but it's not like brazzers doesn't have tons of it either. Brazzers might have struck a real blow against's NAs milf schtick by contracting a very young looking guy like Jordi El Nino Polla whose youth/age contrast really brings out the milfiness in those pornstars. NA is still stuck doing stepmom/friends mom/teacher scenarios with dudes who barely look any younger than the women. If I could only look at one pornsite for the rest of my life either would work as they're fairly balanced in their offerings, fortunately there is an infinite variety of porn available for just 15-30$ a month so I'd rather just keep trying new sites that have something I haven't seen before, be it the models, the scenarios, the photography etc. Variety is the spice of life and the porn world. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 10/26/2016 9:53:58 AM
^^They should do what Reality Kings did and open another G/G site. They could afford it.
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Pennywize Deactivated User
310 Posts 8/16
Posted - Oct 26 2016 : 8:08PM
LOL every post you mention g/g. Its not that profitable any more and not as popular any more either. Best bet for a studio is to have some g/g scenes mixed in with their b/g stuff. A studio focusing ONLY on g/g is gonna end up starving.
^And every post you and 95% of the other members around here talk about B/G, so what? There are plenty of studios doing fine with just G/G; Girlsway, Girlfriends, Sweetheart Video, All Girl Massage, etc. Edited by - Aya on 10/27/2016 1:52:08 AM
