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dumblonde
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 10:54AM
What's the deal with Bruce Seven? Forgive my ignorance, but the only thing that I know about him is that he is revered and had a cool doll made in his likeness :)

I've been getting more interested in older porn, and watched a few Ginger Lynn movies recently that were directed by him. Aside from Ginger I wasn't all that impressed, but I don't think that these were some of his best work, so I was wondering what flicks people can recommend.

Thanks!

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 1:09PM
Most of the good stuff I saw from him was all girl stuff. His Buttslammers series was great and I also liked a bunch of his all girl bondage stuff.

When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling

rjk13
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10/02
Posted - May 28 2004 : 1:26PM
I sometimes revisit some of the early Ginger movies, but find them close to unwatchable. He had a very haphazard style, but I assume his importance is more in his influence on some of the actors who worked for him, and later became directors.

I suppose there are some nuggets among the dross. I have a fond recollection of a 3 girl slutfest in a junkyard, with lots of oil slobbered about, and a mercurial Debi Diamond going over the top. Can't think of the name of the movie though.

dumblonde
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 3:08PM
Yeah, some of the scenes were pretty good, but then most of these were shot about 20 years ago.

He does seem to have a thing for oil, which is cool, he he.

Even though these aren't on DVD, I took some SCREENSHOTS of Gentlemen Prefer Ginger, The World According to Ginger, and Ginger's Sex Asylum, which was kinda goofy.

malkira
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323 Posts
6/02
Posted - May 28 2004 : 5:51PM
DB, check out his Takin' It To The Limit series. The premise is that various pornstars go to Bruce and Bionca to have them set up scenarios for them where they can live out some of their kinkier fantasies. A lot of the scenes are prefaced by a girl doing a dance for Bruce or Bionca, which I usually found to be a little boring, but once the sex starts, look out! Volumes 1 & 2 are both excellent. The Beyond Reality series is also some of his better work.

I think the first B7 movie I ever saw was Ginger On The Rocks, way back in the mid-80's. It would be considered tame by todays standards (some might say lack of standards!), but at the time, I thought the double dildo scene with Ginger and Amber Lynn was pretty hot.

 
dumblonde
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Posted - May 28 2004 : 9:27PM
Thanks malkira, I'll check those out. I did see Beyond Reality: Bionca's Best, and enjoyed the diversity of the scenes, but was wondering why it's called Bionca's Best, if they were directed by Bruce. Perhaps it's another case of the wife getting the credit, while the husband actually does the directing?

What I like is that the females are more sexually aggressive than most of today's stuff, and the men less repressed.

I just saw Ginger On The Rocks (on a borrowed tape), and it was much better. I agree, that scene with Amber Lynn was smoking hot, even though I'm not much into g/g.

MORE SCREENSHOTS HERE

Lazerus
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9/03
Posted - May 29 2004 : 6:26AM
You might have got a better response to this post if you would have put it in the porn pool forum--Bruce was always more revered by the wall-to-wall raincoaters than the feature fans.

From a historical point of view, Seven may be the most important figure in hardcore in the last 25 years. First, he was one of the directors who broke the video format onto the commercial marketplace in the early 1980's; early stuff like Aerobisex Girls and Loose Ends proved that people would buy shot-on-video en masse when many critics claimed video would never be accepted by fans, given the dropoff in technical quality from film. Second, in many ways he was a mentor to John Stagliano, and formed Evil/Elegant Angel with him in 1989. And you know where that went (Patrick Collins, who started by working on a few of Bruce's fetish videos and then became his business manager, eventually assumed control of Elegant Angel later on, but that is a long and nasty tale). Seven had a large impact on both Stagliano's style as well as countless other video shooters during the era. It is not inaccurate to call him the spiritual godfather of shot-on-video wall-to-wall and gonzo as we see it today. As you may have noticed even from the Ginger videos (a few of which at least had the barest thread of plot to them), Seven liked young looking girls and constant action (and oil, oil, and more oil). He really was at his best in g/g and bondage stuff; I don't think regular b/g scenes did much for him. He usually preferred group/orgy action where studs were involved, and he was one of the early video guys who popularized anal sex. The Loose Ends series represents him best in this regard. Buttslammers is the best of a long line of outstanding plotless g/g romps. Buttman Vs. Buttwoman was a project he worked on with Stagliano, and is in some ways a passing of the torch from one man to the next. Taking It to The Limit was the final series of gonzo-styled sex vignettes Seven directed, but he was crippled by a series of strokes around this time, and Bionca did a lot of the work, under his watchful eye of course. The softcore bondage stuff is worth watching, for fans who like the genre; Kim Wylde started out with Seven, as I recall.

malkira
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6/02
Posted - May 29 2004 : 2:32PM
Nice appreciation of B7's work, Lazerus. I'd forgotten about the Loose Ends series. I still have a few volumes, I'll have to pull them out. It's been a while since I've seen them. Bruce was one of the first directors in the video era who knew how to shoot a scene that was nasty and erotic.
babby
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2/04
Posted - May 31 2004 : 11:53AM
let me tell you people something, he is the greatest of all time in my opinion. jill kelly and felecia were made stars by the work they did for bruce seven. i have the enrire buttslammers and the takin it to the limit series,and i have many of his all girl and bondage movies. and i cant get enough of his porn. we need another like him today.
dumblonde
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Posted - Jun 1 2004 : 12:07AM
Thanks for all your replies and suggestions, and especially Lazerus, who seems to be a walking encyclopedia of porn history! I appreciate it.
skronker
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Posted - Jun 1 2004 : 12:32AM
The doll creeps me out.

"Taking It to the Limit" has some amazing scenes across the run of the series. I'd vote for those.

ultradamno
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Silencio...
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Posted - Jun 1 2004 : 3:59AM
...esp. those Vanessa Chase and Careena Collins scenes...good stuff.
dumblonde
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Posted - Jun 7 2004 : 10:27PM
Hey, I like the doll! I'd love to see them make a flick, kinda like an X-rated 'Bride Of Chuckie' with it.

Maybe I'm twisted, but dolls, puppets and clowns rock!

EagleSpirit
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7/03
Posted - Jun 17 2004 : 1:51AM
Have you ever lied in bed trying to go to sleep for hours without it happening? So I get to thinking about Bruce Seven all of a sudden and get the irrestible urge to log onto ADT. Damn ADT.

Well aside from the useless information I just provided back to Bruce Seven.

Bruce Seven went where others feared in "his day." Not only did he push the boundaries but he set a standard for a high level of quality. Although he made a lot of movies it didn't seem like he was pumping them out for a quota. Bruce Seven was a true artist who cared about his work. It wasn't about being "harder" than anybody else, he filmed what he liked and was VERY good at it.

Question: How many of Bruce Seven's movies featured first's? (In a blown out of proportion marketing scheme)

I have never seen a boxcover on a Bruce Seven movie that clearly states something like..., ah you know what I mean, I don't want to piss anybody off.

It just seems to me that when a person is under the gun to produce x amount of movies for x amount of dollars that the quality might take the back seat.

Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Jun 19 2004 : 9:16PM
I like the Buttslamers series, but that's not really what I would call "feature".

My favourite movie from him would be "Corruption" (coast to coast), some very hot scenes in that one!

 
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Jun 19 2004 : 9:18PM
It's a 1990 movie, unfortunately I don't think it was ever released on DVD, what a shame!

Joey




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