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threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 15 2005 : 11:54PM
Why is it that sometimes when I post on a thread, the thread doesn't get bumped to the top of the list, and I don't show up as the last poster, even though my reply is clearly there? I have even gone back and added a minor edit again to try to bump them to the top, but it doesn't work, and still shows the 2nd to last poster as being the most recent.
cv
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594 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jul 15 2005 : 11:56PM
The elves.

They're getting smashed and not worried about managing this forum.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 12:45AM
Until you refresh your screen, it will usually display what is cached in memory. If you want to see an updated screen, click on the reload icon at the top of your browser.
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 12:48AM
The instance she is referring to doesn't get fixed with a refresh. It's happened before to me as well.
threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:02AM
Right, it doesn't get fixed with a refresh, and I can be chatting with another poster, and it will show the same on their refreshed screen. It only happens occasionally, but is sucks if I have replied to a post on page 3, and it stays on page 3.
 
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:23AM
Flash and 3SB, the same thing has happened to me - not often, but it did happen. Cv might be right after all!
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:24AM
Uh oh, technical problem - this calls for a beer!
GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:25AM
Things get stuck sometimes. That's why you need lube.
Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:34AM
And beer.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 1:30PM
There are a few tables that get updated when a user posts. At some points during the day the database server is quite busy. The posting process used to run as a transaction in the past which ensured that all of the tables where updated. I changed that because I didn't like the table locking that occured. So once in a while this will happen.

BTW, which page isn't updating? Is it forum.asp or the main forum?

threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 9:17AM
Forum pages. Like right at this moment (depending on how quickly someone reads this post) I just replied to the Lottery poll in the poll forum. It didn't bump, and it still shows Neitzsche as the last response. However, if you open it, my reply is there.

Thanks for your explanation Drew.

Hurrab
Member

Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 11:39AM
Beer, beer, beer...
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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5/04
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 1:10PM
Boobies!
And beer too!

Jacco

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 4:47PM
Which web browser are you using?
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 4:48PM
Also, when you see this happen try a Ctrl+F5 to force a refresh of the page.
 
Hurrab
Member

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256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 7:41AM
+1!

{trying even harder to derail thread}

threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 10:17AM
Sometimes Firefox, sometimes IE. Doesn't matter. Sometimes it happens when I am chatting with another user, and they see the same thing I am seeing. Therefore, it is not an issue on our end.

It's really no big deal. I just wanted to point it out, because as other people have experienced, it really does happen.

Edited by - threesomebody on 7/18/2005 10:18:21 AM

GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 11:02AM
OK, this just happened to me posting on the "Girls only: Sex object by proxy? Time to prove it!" on Jul 18 2005 : 10:59:17 AM. I tried the cntrl F5 but that didn't work. It failed to updated in both the polls forum page and the all forums page.

I was viewing it on Firefox 1.0.2 running on Windows XP.

Btw, this has also happened to me running IE on XP.

Hopefully this will help.

threesomebody
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2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 11:22AM
I just read that post too, GDC, and noticed that your's was the last response, but it hadn't been bumped, and still showed Robbie as the last poster. Obviously refreshing your screen wouldn't help ME to see it correctly.
GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 11:34AM
Drew, would you like a little lube for your databases?

I have Astroglide and Liquid Silk. Although, I'm thinking Slippery Stuff might be best to really loosen up those sticky indexes or maybe Eros for long-lasting, super-slick entity-relationships.

Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 11:48AM
GirlinDC the thread you refer to just bumped for me.

Maybe the system has a childish hangup about "girl germs".

VincentVanGauge
Former Fucking Virgin

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1412 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:03PM
I have a similar problem. Sometimes people talk about new avatars, and I think WTF, I don't see a new avatar? Then I have to wait until the day after, then I see the new avatar, too.

Our happiness hangs by a thread and Nonsense is its name.

GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:05PM
Vince, the cntrl+F5 does work with new avatars. Sometimes you may need to log out of your browser, then use cntrl+F5 again. Worst case scenario, try emptying your browser cookies.
Robbie
Member

884 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:28PM
No probs here with bumping
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:35PM
The web server instructs your browser to store a cached copy of all avatars on your local computer for 24 hours. This way your computer doesn't fetch every avatar on every forum thread which saves us tons of bandwidth. You should be able to do Ctrl+F5 to force a reload of all content on a page.

 
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
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Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:39PM
Cookies shouldn't have an effect. It's clearing your temporary internet files that will fix it.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:40PM
Do you use a proxy server?

Also, I think there's a FireFox update available to fix some security related bugs.

VincentVanGauge
Former Fucking Virgin

Paying trib-ute to SinncentVanSage
1412 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:43PM
Thank you.

Our happiness hangs by a thread and Nonsense is its name.

GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:49PM
It's really not a big problem. It's probably happened to maybe a dozen posts I've done, with random threads (length of the thread does not seem to make a difference). Except for one case I can think of, someone following me in posting has always bumped the thread. Even in that one case, I think the second response after mine bumped up the thread.

My theory is at the moment I'm posting, I think there may be a maximum number of operations occurring in the database, so the data update isn't made to update the tables for the forum pages. Or possibly another person is posting at the same moment and the database only responds to one update and not both occurring at the same instance.

Not a big deal as the response itself is saved and someone else posting will end up bumping the thread.

GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 12:52PM
No proxy server and I have all the necessary updates. If I view in IE, the same thing occurs. However, as 3SB pointed out, we both see the same thing (even when using cntrl+F5...which btw does work for me with avatars) which suggests it is not on our client side but on the server side.
GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 1:04PM
Btw, Robbie and Cuddly Wombat, next time you see a post about a problem, it's polite to *leave it alone* until staff has a chance to take a look and see what the problem might be...especially if it's something that is difficult to replicate on demand. That was the whole point of why I was very specific about the post so they can examine it and verify it is occurring and try to figure out why.

Edited to add: And in this case, have people trying to view the thread using different browsers, so you can test and figure out if it's the browser or something on the ADT server side.

Edited by - girlindc on 7/18/2005 1:32:57 PM

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 1:12PM
it's probably how firefox is set up to check for a new version of documents, go take a look in about:config.

fwiw, if you don't mind the occasional reload-from-rightclick, setting it to "once per session" takes a lot of load off of the server and will signifigantly speed up browsing. just use the active topics function when you need to and you might notice a difference,

GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 1:31PM
Except, as both 3SB and I experienced, it also happens with IE.

My guess is Cuddly Wombat must have seen the same thing on whatever browser he's on...otherwise he wouldn't have bothered bumping the thread my post was on, he would have just said it appeared bumped to him.

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 1:38PM
if it's some huge problem, disable all forms of caching save for cookies.
GirlinDC
Member

271 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 2:04PM
I consider this problem on par with what type of lube I feel like buying for this weekend.

Which is to say, if I'm bored I might research it and talk about it. (I'm bored right now) But it doesn't really matter, because it all works in the end, anyways.

 
threesomebody
Official BlowBang Judge

Would you like my autograph?
2491 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 2:25PM
James, if you were viewing the thread, you would have seen the same thing that GDC and I were seeing. I reiterate for the umpteenth time, it isn't on the client side. ANY ADT users would have seen the same thing.
Robbie
Member

884 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 2:36PM
3SB specifically mentioned me by name in her post at 11:22. Therefore I thought is useful to respond and let her know that I was experiencing no bumping problem at my end. Fair enough?
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jul 21 2005 : 10:29AM
Sorry.

As an aside, I note that this is a very common problem that I have noticed at ADT over the past few years. I will see that a thread has not received any new posts since my last visit (ie, the thread is not purple and the last recorded post in the thread description is one that I have previously viewed), but when I click on the thread I will find sometimes up to two or three new posts that have not bumped the thread.

edited to add: I am viewing the forum through an AOL version 7.0 browser.

Edited by - Cuddly Wombat on 7/21/2005 10:43:58 AM

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