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petemurphy
Member


226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jan 21 2004 : 4:40AM
I thought I was getting a good deal.
I won two auctions for 5 DVDs: "LITTLE WHITE SLAVE GIRLS 1-2-3" and "SERVICE ANIMALS 13 + 14". The total was $53 including the $5 shipping and handling charge. A sweet deal , or so I thought.

The DVDs arrived today. Bootleg copies! Doh!
I should have known something was amiss since there were no cases or artwork included, but I've bought several legit DVDs that way in the past, saving a few $$$ in the process, but this time it didn't work out the way I planned.

Buyer beware!

I'm going to email the seller and ask if I can return the DVDs for a refund, just as soon as I cool off a little.

Here are links to the auctions I mentioned above:

Little White Slave Girls 1-2-3 ebay auction.

Service Animals 13 & 14 ebay auction.

(I apologize to the folks who are not registered for the eBay "Mature Audience" section: you will not be able to access the auctions.)

I looked though the icons here at ADT for one that would indicate "sucker", but this is as close as I could come: petemurphy =


"A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, 'Damn...that was fun.'" -- Pete Murphy

edited fer misteakes in spellling. Doh!

Edited by - petemurphy on Jan 21 2004

Edited by - petemurphy on Jan 21 2004

Scott Kinney
xxximports.com

New Jersey
369 Posts
5/02
Posted - Jan 21 2004 : 7:35AM
Pete,

Sorry that happened to you. It may be unfair, but
I've become pretty convinced that all the adult
videos and DVDs offered on eBay, and its second cousin,
twice removed, naughtybids, are bootlegs.

I wish you luck.

Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com

Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jan 21 2004 : 9:05AM
From my Buyer's Guide:
Perhaps the studios would want to invoke eBay's Safe Harbor and get the seller kicked for copyright infringement...

- Saki [faqs]

Scott Kinney
xxximports.com

New Jersey
369 Posts
5/02
Posted - Jan 21 2004 : 10:56AM
Sadly, from my own experience in chasing bootlegs off ebay,
Safe Harbor's 'investigations' seem to take just as long as the auction is running. Once the auction concludes,
then you receive a polite letter saying that the
disputed auction is over and there's nothing to investigate.

When I had more free time, I used to contact all the
bidders for items I knew to be bootlegs.


Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com

petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jan 21 2004 : 9:39PM
The dude says I can return the DVDs for a full refund, so I believe I will be sending those puppies back tomorrow.

It still gets my goat though: selling unauthorized copies of somebody else's work is bad enough, but selling copies while implying they are originals is even worse. I hope I never have to stoop to that to make ends meet.

98% of the DVDs I've bought off eBay have been fine, but that other 2% is a royal pain in the butt. I thought I was pretty good at avoiding the bootlegs, but I ignored too many warning signs with this guy.

Warning sign #1: He was new, with 0 feedback. Or at least this particular identity was new. He's way too slick to be brand new to eBay. Looking at his ratings now, only one person has complained that the DVDs are copies. Everyone else seems to be well pleased with his product!

Saki: I had not read your Buyer's Guide before. That's some good advice. And well written too!

Scott: It appears that eBay would rather spend their time enforcing their (very loosely defined) definition of obscenity than getting rid of the bootlegs.

 
timotei
Member

UK
271 Posts
4/02
Posted - Jan 22 2004 : 3:36AM
I hope you get your money back first, otherwise he's got the DVDs to sell again, and you'll have nothing. Although if you originally paid using a credit card, then you could do a chargeback.
Totally agree. Which is annoying for those of us outside the USA, who aren't allowed to view, buy or sell in the mature audiences category. And there isn't a similar category on the non-USA sites, so in effect I can't sell my adult items at all via eBay.
SergeantD
Member

40 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jan 24 2004 : 4:44AM
That's a pretty dumb thing to say Scott. I have been dealing (selling and buying) on Ebay for a long time and this is the first I have heard of true bootleg DVDs being sold. I have bought atleast 20 DVDs and ALL have been authentic. Copies (DVD and VHS) of classic porn is the only exception. Hard to find dubbed classics are being sold on Ebay at random but people usually know what they are getting and people usually don't have an issue with it unless it is crap quality. Hell, I even see Traci Lord movies being sold there, but it is fairly disguised. But to say that you are "convinced that all the adult videos and DVDs offered on eBay are bootlegs" is pretty ignorant. I would love to hear what else you are "convinced" of.

Anyway petermurphy, I'm sorry you were deceived the way you were but you should not let one bad seller ruin it for you. Not only were those movies copies but they HAD TO HAVE BEEN bad quality copies because all 5 of those DVDs are dual layer DVDs and would have to be put through a shrinking program to fit everything on a blank DVD-R. I am very educated about both topics since I burn lots of movies and sell on Ebay BUT I NEVER combine the 2.

Scott Kinney
xxximports.com

New Jersey
369 Posts
5/02
Posted - Jan 24 2004 : 9:21AM
I apologize for offending you. I obviously used
too broad a brush. My experience in chasing down sellers
of DBM, Videorama and other imported titles (heck, even
"The Fist the Whole Fist... and "Tampa Tushy Fest") has
definitely colored my view of ebay and naughtybids.

As someone protecting the interests of the copyright owner,
I'm much less forgiving of 'dubs', 'copies' and 'homemade' than you might be.

Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com
julesjordanvideo
JulesJordan.com

Professional Perverts
1003 Posts
9/01
Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 1:09AM
ebay is full of crooks and pirates,i'm ripping ebay open as we speak. Ebay seems to be a pirates dream.
Lots of canadian versions on there too, which are edited to conform to canadian standards, lots of good stuff missing in those.
skronker
Notable Legendary Icon

Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 2:19AM
Get 'em, Jules!
Too$hort
Member

Oaktown
107 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 2:50AM
I got ripped on eBay from an auction for Killer Pussy #3-#6 which were bootleg.
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 2:41PM
Did you ask the seller for a refund?

"A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, 'Damn...that was fun.'" -- Pete Murphy

Porn Scout
Deactivated User

3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 11:43PM
I've gotten ripped a few times, most recently for School of Cock from Zero Tolerance. The others have been Up Your Ass 15, 18, & 19. Each time was with a different seller and in each case, they didn't stay in business very long. It seems like they get suspended once enough people complain. But, I think there is a lot of bootleg action going on from sellers advertising VCD's rather than DVD's. Feedback rating is a good thing to look at and also the asking price. These guys almost always start their auctions down at the $1.00 level and ask for an exorbitant shipping charge, like $8 or $9.
SergeantD
Member

40 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jan 31 2004 : 8:44AM
Exactly, Feedback is everything on Ebay. If the guy has over 100 transactions and atleast a 95% positive rating, he is not selling bootlegs. Any bad feedback he received was most likely due to a delay in the mail system or failed email addressses. I have over 400 transactions with 2 negative and 1 of the negatives was because I failed to email the guy when I shipped his item. He received the item in less than a week, but he still wanted an email. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Anyway, like I stated earlier. Ebay is a GREAT source for hard to find, authentic and cheap items. You just need to be careful as to who you deal with.

choad
Member

124 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 31 2004 : 11:05PM
some good input from everyone. i've never gotten bootlegs on ebay, but i have been scammed a few times.
i generally only buy from sellers with at least 100 rating, but i have made a few exceptions.
people that leave feedback for bootlegs obviously don't care they're bootlegs, which is unfortunate because i personally feel pumping your money into the porn industry is far more worthwhile than any hollywood hack or musical pirate.

cheers to all.

 
bargainman
New Member

Southern California
2 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 5:19AM
As a relatively new seller on eBay myself, I can tell you from my perspective that not everyone is a scammer. Most of the larger and legit sellers on eBay will tell you that the DVDs they are selling are shrinkwrapped in their "original packaging" and come straight from the manufacturer or distributor. If you don't see anything like that in their auction listings, I certainly wouldn't buy from them.
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Feb 15 2004 : 2:08AM
Still waiting for that refund.
Desespere
Member

6 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 16 2004 : 6:39PM
I was ripped off royally by a longtime seller on eBay. I won an auction for a brand new copy of Diva Girls. The seller had over 500 positive feedbacks, so I had no reason not to trust the guy. I asked him if he had any other Jeanna Fine movies and he said that he had 12 others. He gave me a good deal (average of $14.00 per DVD).

One week after paying, I received a package from him. The box only had the DVD that I had won, not the others that I bought. I contacted the seller and he pretended to know nothing about myself buying the other 12 DVDs. I sent him a copy of the money order that he cashed, but he still refused to give me the DVDs or a refund. eBay would not do anything because the additional DVDs were not purchased on the site. The cops in the seller's area also would do nothing. They told me it was a civil matter and to sue the seller in court. Considering the seller lives in another state, I was not able to sue him.

I finally gave up after trying to get a refund for 4 weeks. The only consolation was that the seller has now been kicked off of eBay because he ripped off several other people.

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Feb 16 2004 : 7:13PM
If the items were shipped to you through the mail it could be considered mail fraud.
Germanicus
Member

Berkshire, U.K.
42 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 26 2004 : 4:08AM
Online auction is not as much of a bargain as it used to be. I use it to get rare stuff.
Rip off merchants can easily rack up a few hundred positive feedbacks, then start the scam.
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Mar 1 2004 : 2:49AM
I emailed the seller to ask where my refund was.
He emailed that I would get it as soon as I returned the discs.
I emailed the USPS tracking info showing that he had received them weeks ago. (Glad I spent the extra money for tracking!)
He emailed that he's mailing me a check. (Isn't that one of the three greatest lies of all time?)

I noticed that this seller isn't selling any of Jules Jordan's stuff anymore.

A house without a dog or a cat is the house of a scoundrel.
-- Portuguese Proverb

petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Mar 2 2004 : 10:13PM
Whoo-hoo!!! I got my refund!

Now if only the check will clear.

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