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Nick Nightingale
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Posted - May 30 2005 : 6:17PM
Hello,
Well, I've lurked long enough so after reading up on the proper etiquette, I figure it's time to dive into the pool.

I guess I should mention that I work in the video industry, but not the "Adult" video industry. Also, I thought about posting this in the "Tech Talk" section of the forum, but that seemed to deal more with Post Production issues like dvd authoring. If this post does belong over there I apologize.

My first question has to do with the cameras Mr. Stagliano uses to film his Buttman movies. After buying and watching the "Fashionistas" and "Wild Goose Chase" I was very impressed with the look of sex on 35mm film. The extras in both give an interesting chance to compare/contrast the different techniques that Mr. Stagliano used in each film. There must have been advances made in 35mm cameras because he talks about how in "Wild Goose Chase" most of the shots are tripod mounted due to the cameras' weight. In the "Fashionistas" making of feature however he is clearly seen several times using a hand held technique with awesome results.

I plan on buying the "Adventures of Buttman" next which the box cover mentions was shot on betacam. However, "Bend Over Babes 1&2" were shot on hi-8? When did he make the move to DV tape?

I'm sorry to sound so nitpicky [anal even!], but I find that the type of film/tape stock used to shoot porn greatly affects my enjoyment of the feature. Perhaps others are curious as well. Or, maybe I am just like one of those nerds on the baseball forums who speculate on what type of shoelaces Johnny Damon uses.

Thanks for reading!

Fidelio,
NN

"I play most nights at the Sonata Cafe..."

Topic Moved by - hardware on May 30 2005

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Posted - May 30 2005 : 6:28PM
Welcome to the forums, Nick. Since I understand that you are mainly interested in discussing the technical aspects of shooting porn, I'm moving this to Tech Talk.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - May 30 2005 : 9:01PM
Nick - Wild Goose Chase and Face Dance 1 and 2 were both shot on film (Face Dance 1 and 2 are on 16mm).

Buttman in the Crack is on Betacam. Almost everything shot before 1990 was Betacam. (Mystic Pieces, Shadow Dancers, etc.)

His first DV was Buttman in Budapest in 1997.

Nick Nightingale
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Posted - May 30 2005 : 10:04PM
Thank you for the info Tricia!

NN

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Posted - May 30 2005 : 11:11PM
I actually think this is a very interesting topic, & Stag's ability to maintain his style despite the various camera weights & exposure issues is testament to his dedication to porn as valid filmmaking ....
 
juha
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Posted - May 31 2005 : 4:40PM
I always wonder why Paul Thomas' shot-on-film stuff looks so bad?
blixxx
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Posted - Jun 9 2005 : 2:27PM
I would shoot my content on film if I could afford it! Until then...its minidv for me...
TonyC
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Posted - Jun 10 2005 : 7:24AM
Step one: Stop refering to your work as "content".

-T.C.

blixxx
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Posted - Jun 10 2005 : 8:39AM
Step two: go fuck yourself!
TonyC
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Posted - Jun 10 2005 : 11:40AM
Fuck myself? I thought step two was to try and getting into Tricia's pants.

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Posted - Jun 10 2005 : 9:36PM
Step three: Cut the bullshit or you will find yourself out of here.
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Posted - Jun 10 2005 : 10:46PM
What camera did he used for the DV?
Nick Nightingale
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Posted - Jun 11 2005 : 2:43AM
An interesting question ?!? Also, did he use the same camera for Buda!?!

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blixxx
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Posted - Jun 11 2005 : 12:45PM
come on bill, no need to be a nigger!
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Posted - Jun 11 2005 : 1:37PM
I never did understand the attraction of joining just so you could get kicked out.
 
juha
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Posted - Jun 11 2005 : 3:52PM
Nick Nightingale
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Posted - Jun 11 2005 : 10:32PM
Hey!
That jerk totally killed my topic?!?

Buzz-Kill AssAssIn....

Besides, Charles Manson is so 20th century. Now Patricia Krenwinkel, SHE's in it for the long haul......

Anyway, i am looking forward to viewing "Adventures of Buttman" this week so I'll get back to everyone with my thoughts. Perhaps I need to read the Review Etiqutte page..


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TonyC
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Posted - Jun 12 2005 : 9:10AM
Since I like talking about cameras, I'll see if I can't get your thread back on the rails.

Given the timeframe (1997) it's likely that Buda was shot on a Sony VX1000, the first three-chip MiniDV camera.

In about a month, the VX1000 more or less killed Hi8 as a lower-cost alternative to BetaSP. No matter what quality lens/camerablock you paired with Hi8, Hi8 still had a lot of drop outs. Over the next few years, the VX1000 and its decendents would hollow out the BetaSP market as well, offering "good-enough" quality at a price that was one fourth the cost of even Sony's cheepo UVW100.

-TC

Nick Nightingale
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Posted - Jun 12 2005 : 10:16AM
Thanks for the history lesson Tony, I must be a gear nerd, but I find that stuff fascinating. It's the same thing over at music forums.

"When Dean Markely introduced their Super Slinky Ultra Light gauge guitar strings back in '83 they totally changed the Glam Metal tapping landscape. See Quiet Riot's "Battleaxe" as proof."

So, what do you think of JVC's JY-HD10U HDTV Camcorder?
Will it help countless indie porn directors get over the HD hurdle?

Thanks again,
NN


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