Edited by - Doughboy on 11/4/2005 12:28:35 PM

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PLEASE!!!!! Do not discontinue this series. I too would pay $100/title for these DVDs. Maybe only one per year? Or pay the guys less money? Something!?!?

Brandon, please dont abandon your fan base here!!!

50-1 is cool and all, and I understand your logic, but it's not the cum swallowing PINNACLE that AGSOI is.

Again, i beg you for mercy :-)

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For what it's worth, I would be willing to pay more for Good Source releases myself. Hell, I've been willing to spend full retail on impulse purchases for things that I later had buyer remorse for purchasing. Good Source is an automatic-buy for me anyway.

One other thought - I don't know what the economics of it would be, but for what you pack onto one disc, you could probably do two discs and charge more (ala Evil Angel).

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If you don't like something, there's nobody holding a gun to your head making you watch it. No need to denigrate anyone else's tastes.

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I have put my heart and soul into a bunch of movies that have come and gone, just like the girls with the checks I wrote them! The problem is an average movie sells about the same as a balls-out, supersized movie like INTENSITIES IN 1O CITIES #2. Double-disc, shot in 10 cities around the world, etc.

We don't even charge more for 2-disc releases!! Give me a break!

The lesson? Make the porn you want to make and spend only what you feel you want to put into the project. Some labors of love have lost their appeal and are just too damn costly. I would love to keep blowing out loss-leaders, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

I tried the Wal-Mart approach of providing the best value for the money but it didn't quite work out as I planned.

1,000 apologies.

Edited by - Brandon Iron on 11/9/2005 9:53:23 PM

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Perhaps my earlier praise of your power and ability to achieve success in this genre of porn was a bit premature. Because obviously, if that's your attitude towards porn production after the popularity you've recently experienced, due in most part to the AGSOI line, then you've apparently missed a much more important lesson.

The lesson? In order to vault ones' self to the top of the porn mountain, give the people (the fans) something unique and fresh, a product that stands apart from the norm, that's head and shoulders above anything else in its genre. Push the envelope. Really give the fans value and supreme content while mixing in ones'own personal flare. Do what ever it takes to give "the fans" (the ones who buy your product) what "they" want. Something that others can attempt to copy but can never duplicate.

That's what AGSOI was. You were the one other porn producers look at and said, "dayam, maybe we better try to do our own line of gonzo cum-swallow series." For you not to recognize this is, in my opinion, a big mistake and a likely costly career ending mistake as well.

One day we'll be on ADT discussing how Brandon had a good thing, had the world by the short-hairs and didn't even know it. He let it slip through his fingers because although he was talented in bringing out the cum-swallowing animal in hot fresh new faces in porn, he was unfortunately unable to figure out how to make the series without going broke. What a shame.

Pssst... Hey Brandon, one way to get around the legalities of charging guys to engage in a porn movie? How about something like pre-screening and charging admission to enter the building, (not specifically to participate), and telling entrants their involvement is voluntary? Instead of 6 or 7 girls, just use 2 or 3 and let perspective fans/participants know how to be considered for ticket purchase to enter the AGSOI castle.

Don't think that's a possible solution? Just ask how many guys in this forum would be interested in such an opportunity.

Look, don't you get it? It's not about "you". It's not about calling up you buddies like Dick Nasty, a Mr. No-Load that should have retired from porn a long time ago.

It's about making the best product out there. A series that sets trends. A series that with each new volume, showcases a few hot fresh new young girls and a group of young men with cum-bloated balls ready to give them a cum drinking experience/challenge that will go down in history. If you were to make AGSOI in this manner, the "you" would by nature rise to the top. But the "you" is a result of the product, not the other way around.

I say the following with the utmost respect...
50 to 75 percent of the same ole Joes that are in every porn movie really lack the cum shooting intensity needed to make a good cum-swallowing movie with the fury I described above. There's several good shooters that have appeared in your movies, but a good majority of them, if I were the producer, would not be invited back after one or two chances to fire a monster load into a hotties waiting mouth failed with a miniscule dribble. Their slot would be filled by a more appropriate cumgun-qualified replacement.

In other words, you're the coach, put your best players in the game. Recruit new players by drafting the biggest cum-wad shooting slobs you can find. By 'slobs' I mean, I don't think their physical looks should be important. Buff muscle head guys with awesome ripped torso's may impress the girls, but who cares about that? When it comes time for Mr. Tough-guy to come up to bat and he can barely even bunt the ball and most of the time all theses Gym-heads do is strike out, then bench them. We don't care if the girl finds the guy(s) hot. If Mr. Beer-belly can cum in quarts put him in the game for crying out load. This aint pee-wee baseball, this is the Big Leagues, dammit!

Brandon, I won't name names, but if you insist on "playing it safe" and "hiring" these worn out Mr. No-Loads because they're your "buddies" rather than recruit a stable of new, younger more capable cum-cannons, then perhaps it is time you discontinue AGSOI. Because the only way to make this series a continued success is to never become complacent. Keep re-inventing yourself. Continue to push the envelope. Constantly try to out do your last volume. No one ever said its easy to stay on top. You gota want it.

I once thought you were that kind of porn producer, Brandon. I really thought you were different. That's what made a fan out of me and I'm sure I speak for a lot of your other fans as well. I really thought, "this guy doesn't want to be just another ordinary porn producer. He's different, he's gonna be big." I guess I was wrong. Or perhaps you've just lost the passion. Because a hard lesson I feel you'll learn is; movies like 50-1 and INTENSITIES IN 1O CITIES #2, despite how much "you" enjoyed making them, is not going to keep your fan base intact. Not when we know now what you're really capable of. That's the hard truth.

Bottom line? If you can't figure out how to continue a AGSOI, the series that your fans have told you they all luv, the series that has put you where you are today, the very series that made a name for yourself; if you can't figure out the financial woes without having to take out a second mortgage on your house, then perhaps it is indeed time to pass down that crown, Brandon.

However, I don't really think money is the reason for your recent change of heart. If you really wanted to continue this series, you would do it. Because I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could find lots of ways to make it more profitable. Lots of ways, fun ways, easy ways, simple ways. It's not rocket science.

But I'm not buying it. Not for a minute. Because for you to let something so rectifiable, like the cost of production, put and end to a series that's done so much for your name and career, just doesn't make sense. Obviously something else has happened. There's some other underlying reason for your decisions that you don't want us to know. Something's not right with Brandon and the AGSOI series, but it's not money. Even I can figure that out.

Terra S.

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As for Brandon, he has other great stuff. If he wants to ditch AGSOI, so be it. As long as BD doesn't go with it!! I'm much more of a facial fan than I am a swallowing fan anyhow. :)

Brownshirt...a name like that, I'm gather "erotic" classifies as scat that covers one's upper body attire? lol

TerraS...for not being a producer yourself ~ just a fuming foamite fan who can't get over himself ~ you have an awful lot to say about how someone else spends their money / budget.

Eric

Edited by - Eric381 on 11/12/2005 6:20:20 PM

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Second, "foamite" is not a word, and if you meant 'fomite', then not only can you not spell because you probably never made it past the 4th grade, but I hope Brownshirt covers your entire upper body attire from the neck up.

Third, if you read my post completely (if you even know how to read pages that don't have pictures) then you know what I had to say was not entirely about money. It was more about attitude, desire to be the best, not being an ordinary porn producer and my doubts that the true underlying reasons for Brandon's decisions are likely not even about budgets or financial concerns.

But of course, that all probably went right over your head because of your fascination with a members' name that your "erotic" mind has twisted into a scat fantasy.

And finally, I'm not a "himself" I'm a 'herself', ya dork.

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"semen hungry girls" only exist in porn land, as do girls who "want" gangbangs, or pant and squeal for guys with huge rods to mercilessly sodomize them. it actually says alot more about how men see women in our culture. my 2 cents on it.

none of these swallow movies imo has come close to matching the perversity of bianca pureheart's ab scene. she has that natural girl next door thing happening, doesn't have to try to be it, just is. everything depends on the type of girl and how much she'll swallow in one of these big swallow/bukkae movies because it's so intentionally obscene and absurd. the more wholesome looking the girl, the more she drinks, the greater the degree of kink involved. i would say d.strong in ab27 has more jizz shot her way, but she slyly kicks most of the fat loads out, and she doesn't look wholesome by any stretch of the imagination. to be fair though, the men who fed bianca came with half full water pistols, and the crew for d.strong arrived with fully loaded super soakers! i doubt bianca could've feigned as much enthusiasm had her donators been as generous. either way, you'll never see an american porn movie have a cute bianca type starlet shugging down 75 or more big loads. it'll never happen. and probably shouldn't. if there ever is, the girl in question will probably have a contractual-rider stipulation that every man present needs to have previously unloaded that same day to ensure the smallest donation possible. much the same way, for instance, in brandon's movies, where for a facial scene, the loads are gigantic, as compared to a swallow scene where the loads are typically much smaller. it's not mere coincidence.

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Both directors are extremely gifted and have an untouchable fan base.

If you watch "No Cum Dogging Allowed 6," you'll notice that Brandon Iron performs in the movie!

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Brandon, despite being well endowed, cums about as much as a teenager who's been jerking off all day and is now trying for his sixth orgasm. Let's face it, he just don't 'produce' in the cum department. I think he even mentioned something in NCDA6 about his load being "toothpaste". Yeah, well I guess that's appropriate if you were trying to squeeze the last dab out of the tube, cause that's about how much he was able to squeeze out of his own tube, a dab, and a lil one at that. Certainly couldn't have called it mouthwash, that's for sure. Although I like Brandon as a producer of AGSOI and in movies where he dominates the girl, he just doesn't have the big copious spurting wads we wana see shooting into a lil hottie's open waiting mouth. Hence, my disinterest in 50-1.

Here's several more male actors I've seen in 'cum' movies that just don't fit the part of a cum shooter: Dave Hardman, Mark Davis, Guy Dasilva, Bret Rockman and Sean Michales. I'm sure I'm leaving out some others. Anyone want to add to the Mr. No-Load list?

All of these male porn actors I've mentioned suffer from the same thing, RWS 'Randy West Syndrome'. Yet, we continue to see them over and over again in porn flicks where 'cum' is the focus. Why?

Until Porn producers/directors such as Mike John, David Luger, Tim Von Swine and Chico Wang, just to mention a few, stop this practice of using the same ole Mr. No-Loads, 'their buddies', in cum-swallowing movies, we will continue to get sub-par swallow flicks. No Cum Dodging Allowed 6 was 'OK'. But it could have been alot better. How? Use nothing but men who have the ability to shoot some nice big healthy loads and avoid using men in these movies who can only squeeze out a tiny dab of toothpaste.

Terra S.

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Just want you to know I'm still a big fan and look forward to AGSOI 6. And you keep doing things your way. That's the only way. If some of my ideas are considered then great. If not, and the next AGSOI is the last, I'm sure all will still be well in porn land. I just think cum-swallow movies and bukkake style facials in BD are your calling. You have a flare that's rare.

Once again, I hope you, or anyone else, have not taken offence to my comments. They were just that, comments, and were not meant to be taken personally. I wish you good luck in all your future endeavors.

Kind regards,

Terra S.

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As Brandon, so well said. You've poured your heart into your movies, as well as what lint remains in your pocket with no feasible return other than fan admiration. While, a labor of love is nice...a nice healthy financial return would be nicer (as it would be in ANY business)!

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God damn Terra S, your posts are so passionate and so demanding - awesome! I really wish I had some money to throw at you just to see what sort of incredible cum-swallowing porn you would produce

Do you have an all-time favourite scene?

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BTW, I agree that Bianca Pureheart's scene in NCDA 6 was impressive. Her innocence in combination w/ her apparent comfort w/ chugging that much semen really made the scene sizzle. BUT, I'd still like to have seen her engage in more extended cumplay. We never got a really good scene of her mouth full of cum. The gargling was anemic -- to brief, not bubbles, and you couldn't really see the cum roiling in her mouth. And I would have LOVED to see her plunge her face straight down into the bowl of cum and noisily slurp up the whole mess and then start gargling.

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Where is the hue and cry when others put out swallow movies with fewer scenes/fewer loads, etc.? There is none because this is all a game of salesmanship. A superior product doesn't automatically rise to the top of the charts. Neither does an inferior product sink to the bottom. The most important person in your movie is not even in your movie...it's the sales person.

I am very happy with the returns on my series but choose to accept that there is a lot of product on the shelves. I am privileged to get one chance a month to add my own piece of smut to the world.

If you go and demand 100 or even 200 load movies from other american producers, I am sure someone will get it done for you. Just don't hold your breath.

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It's kind of like my ex-bf likes NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson. He's seen him dominate the field. But when he throws in a poor performance and finishes up the track, all I hear is bitchin and complaining about how bad he sucked today. Because he knows that Jimmie is capable of better. So yeah, I know a lot of people might have liked 50-1 but when you announced that you'd rather make movies like that in place of AGSOI, to me that was like Jimmie saying he'd rather drive go-karts than race NASCAR. Does that make sense? lol

So, the hue and cry is only over your considering ending the AGSOI series, not its content. In other words, I can live with Dick Nasty being in AGSOI if you keep the series alive.

Really, the hue and cry in this entire thread revolves mainly around two things.

1. I/we wish you would reconsider retiring the AGSOI series.

2. I/We wish you would consider alternative ways to fund and produce AGSOI so that: a) you make some moolah for your efforts, and b) we get treated to new AGSOI volumes more often as they continue getting better and more amazing.

This thread is now 6 pages long. There's quite a few good ideas and suggestions through out these pages. Several from yours truly, and quite a few more from other fans as well. Despite the moans, rants and cries of disbelief and pity, I think it should be quite obvious; your fans have spoken and are behind you no matter what you choose to do.

There's something in these pages that may hold the key to it all. I don't know, but maybe you could scroll back and take another look. Or, perhaps it might be a good idea to print these pages and file them chronologically in a binder. Then you could just kind of leave the binder in the bathroom. When ever you're on the crapper, it might just give you some ideas as you leaf through the pages. And if not? Well.... If you happen to suddenly find yourself in the awkward position of no tp left on the roll, I'm sure those pages would come in handy for the immediate task at hand. LOL

In all seriousness though, I truly wish you well in what ever you do. I do hope that, if we are in fact seeing the final volumes of AGSOI, that you will consider coming out with a new series, ideally in the same genre, to take its place. What ever that is, I hope its every bit as amazing and highly successful. AGSOI will be a tough act to follow but if anyone can do it, you the man, Brandon.

Terra S.

P.S. I thought of a good name for your new series:

BBBB (Brandon's Blow Bang Bukkake) Fell free to use it as long as I can be in the first volume!

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Take a look at the TITLE of this thread Tontblo.

Oh, and it really shows your intelligence when you would pay $100 for something that's easily available for less than half that price. LOL... Tontho, how many do you want @ $100?
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Oh man, nuthin hotter than a babe who talks just like a guy!!

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But, "the people"? You cannot...I repeat, CANNOT speak for the people when you only know a handful, esp. judging by the length of your terms on this forum (40 & 29 msgs, respectively! lol).

So Terra, what you're trying to level Brandon's work with is perhaps the news headline, "Porn Prodigy blows his brains out"...news @ 11? The sad story of a guy who put out some excellent shit, we all saw his greatness, praised it even. However, when the prodigy gets Straight A's all thru high-school...but gets a 70 on a single test, he kills himself!? He goes 3 for 4 in the ballgame, but you crucify him for striking out the 4th time? That's what I'm reading into this tirade of yours....hmmm.

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It's win-win-win.

Enjoy!

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It's a good thing, too...we get to see more of the female talent at one time, in one video...rather than spread out over various episodes (50 into approx. 4-5 girls per AGSOI = 10 episodes of AGSOI).

On the other hand, if it's a load landfill upon one's kisser that the viewer seeks....the BD is your series.

Of course, if you want to see that load dumped some some cutie's gutter...well, while AGSOI may be dead or sporadic...there's always someone else out there that'll put the "swallowing" genre on the shelf.

Perhaps Ms. Terra being a chick...she doesn't appreciate the one-man (ie - you) aspect of your films? Rather, wants to see a bunch of fatties circling some beauty's kisser, all wanking for the chance to get off on her face; in her mouth?

Some people seek perfection in films, I'm just happy with one of the contestants (as long as it's not the guy). I don't buy your videos for you B, I buy'em for the ladies in them!! :) And indeed, pluggish as it may be...50-to-1 satisfies that!

My $.02 :)
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Let's celebrate the diversity and cum eating abilities of the fine women of 50 to 1, which I hope will rank as one of the top swallowing series on the market. Time will tell.

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50 to 1 is easy to produce and there is a never-ending supply of willing talent. It will continue for a long time.

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After all the blather I've done you still don't get it do you? That just amazes me. To say that 50-1 is "pleasing the swallowing crowd" after we've seen AGSOI, is like saying a restaurant that serves King Crab legs ala-carte will please the seafood loving crowd after they've been to an all-you-can-eat seafood buffet.

Here's my advice. If the formula for 50-1 works, then use that same formula to a follow-up series and call it 20-5 or 10-10 or something similar. And here's a little more advice. If you do something like 20-5, then use some big shooters. Look back to your work in AGSOI and hand pick the 5 or so guys that really "contributed" AGSOI. In other words, leave out the guys that only produced "a little bit of iron", i.e. leave out the Dick Nasty's.

Gee, is that so hard to figure out? Take 5 big shooters, use the 50-1 formula, convert it to 20-5, (you can even be in it too), and make one helluva cum swallowing movie. Those are the ingredients needed to "rank as one of the top swallowing series on the market".

Bottom line: Time will tell? Well allow me to predict the future for you. 50-1 might work if you were able to fire incredible copious loads. But lets face it, Peter North you're not. And that's not meant to be an insult, it's just the cold hard truth. Which goes for all my comments here.

(and even Peter's starting to 'peter out' and show his age because he sure don't shoot like he use to.)

Happy Holidays,

Terra

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Terra: You are obviously a very astute consumer. Thanks for the business advice. I may take you up on it. As far as my less-than-stellar loads are concerned, I never claimed to shoot big ones....just as I never claimed to have a big bank account. I do the best with what I have, which in my opinion is less than some but more than most.

Enjoy and happy holidays.
Brandon

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