Can I still get into porn even with the recession?

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Emma Voyeur Member "A nymphomaniac is a women as obsessed with sex as the average man." 14 Posts 7/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:04PM Okay, I have been thinking about this for a few months now and want to know if I could still be successful in porn if I did all the right things like show up on time, work hard, save my money (as well as be good looking and willing to fuck like a wild slut, lol) even since the recession is making it hard even on the porn business? What do I need to do in order to make it, and not just for a few months, but for several years? Emma Voyeur [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:19PM As I said in another thread Yes. Hot girls still get good amount of work eventhough its recession. [Link]
Gr8Gonzo Member 199 Posts 6/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:26PM ^I agree and I'll add from my viewpoint as a fan you have to make a splash with something big quick, i.e. Praise the Load and the Gauntlet Series. 2 Girl's that cum to mind are Nikki Jayne (Initiation of Nikki Jayne) and Faye Reagan (Gauntlet and frosty Finish) who made a splash quick and are on the road to success. To0 many girl's in the business go thru the B/G motions to make a $. [Link]
Emma Voyeur Member "A nymphomaniac is a women as obsessed with sex as the average man." 14 Posts 7/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:38PM okay, but I read in another thread that girls are taking half of what they used to get in booking fees and getting half the shoots! so thats bullshit, at least for a hot girl? [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:41PM I guess thats probably true to a certain degree due to piracy there is a lot less money I guess and in a business that is built on supply and demand thats what happens. If you dont like those conditions then dont do porn. The drawbacks are to big if you only consider being paid a certain amount as motivation. [Link]

Emma Voyeur Member "A nymphomaniac is a women as obsessed with sex as the average man." 14 Posts 7/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:46PM Gr8Gonzo, Okay, I am not as hot as Nikki Jayne, she is gorgeous! I'm pretty, brunette, 36C, so I'm out of luck?? And if not, then can you be more specific, I havent seen any of those DVDs you mentioned, what do they do in them that is so big and splashy? [Link]
Emma Voyeur Member "A nymphomaniac is a women as obsessed with sex as the average man." 14 Posts 7/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:49PM Jaktarn, well dude, if I am going to get into it as a career, then yeah, money is a big motivation. I guess what I am saying is that I know things are different than they were a year or so ago, but is there anything I can do to stack the odds in my favor for being a successful pornstar? [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:52PM Believe me I love Nikki Jayne but her approach to porn might not be the best thing, because she has merely done everything except gangbangs and interacial and she has hardly been around for 18 months or something. To her advance she is under a contract so she gets paied even if not shooting. Most girls are working freelancing and working their way through different steps in their career graduately doing more advanced stuff. You have any pics of yourself? You look good in the avatar but its really hard to see very much of you. [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 6:54PM Well yeah the conditions surely has changed thats something you gotta put in the equation. A lot of girls are doing a lot more work escorting, doing promotion and stripping it feels like this has become a lot more usual the last years. [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 7:41PM Serously my advice. Go hard xxx. I don't have enough, time money or shelf space to really seek out a girl's entire catalog. Because of porn drift, I really only try and rent/buy things that turn me on: anal, atm, ass-kimo pies, cumfarts, sexy trannny "catcher not pitcher" movies. So if you're good and I favor you, I'll probably only buy titles you're doing anal in. Perfect example of that for me was Kristina Rose. Loved her out the gate but passed. Now that she's taken to anal like a duck to water, I'm picking up those films aggressively. Good luck [Link]
texanbob Deactivated User 727 Posts 6/04	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 7:45PM In the interim you could do a spit video for me Emma (solo or girl/girl)....record with your own camcorder, upload with free rapidshare file , sign a release form for footage & get the cash. Email me at spitgirls@live.com.au with some pics of yourself if interested. I have just started my spitgirls site...address below, pornstars Poppy Morgan & Isabel Ice are on there thus far. Cheers Bob www.clips4sale.com/studio/26750 [Link]
Bluto Deactivated User 511 Posts 3/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 8:28PM Puke and scat are also good subjects for your own camcorder. And make sure the spit has lots of green snort loogies. Guys like spit with green snort loogies. [Link]
Gr8Gonzo Member 199 Posts 6/09	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 8:44PM Emma Voyeur wrote: Gr8Gonzo, Okay, I am not as hot as Nikki Jayne, she is gorgeous! I'm pretty, brunette, 36C, so I'm out of luck?? And if not, then can you be more specific, I havent seen any of those DVDs you mentioned, what do they do in them that is so big and splashy? Click to expand Well I used those as examples. Faye Reviews To each their own for scenes they prefer to do. BTW I love brunettes. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 10:30PM Emma Voyeur wrote: okay, but I read in another thread that girls are taking half of what they used to get in booking fees and getting half the shoots! so thats bullshit, at least for a hot girl? Click to expand I wonder what girls made for shoots back before porn really took off? Porn is something you should do because you want to make porn. Not because you want to get rich. You will probably regret it if you do it just for money. If it's only the money you're interested in, there are so many other things you can do that will probably pay about the same amount over time that at least you won't regret having done. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/14/2009 10:33:07 PM [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Aug 14 2009 : 10:52PM Isn't this the 800 pound gorilla that we are supposed to ignore? [Link]

Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Aug 15 2009 : 2:01AM I don't think simply being a good employee who is willing to fuck on camera is enough any more. Maybe in 2003 it brought steady work. You missed the boat, kid. RP - I've read standard for b/g was around $1000 and was negotiable based on a performer's popularity and demand. More popular girls would regularly get $1200-1500 for a b/g. Some even more. Add in circus acts and the pay went even higher. [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 15 2009 : 8:49AM Random precision and Savoy are very right. I think you missed the boat and should not considering doing porn if it will affect your life (personal and employeewise) negatively. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Aug 16 2009 : 6:20AM Come on, even the most enthusiastic performers main motivation for doing porn is the money, from Annette Schwarz to Katja Kassin, Vanessa Del Rio to Annette Haven. Funnily enough, when talking about the 'dangers' of rough porn people are fond of drawing the comparison between porn performers and boxers and I always remember this quote from Jack Dempsey (via Joyce Carol Oates): "When you're fighting you're fighting for one thing: money." From its beginning, this whole industry exists solely to make money, with the huge decline in profits in the last few years it is going to be interesting to see what happens to modern pornography. What changes will this bring? [Link]
xayhoundb Senior Member 2721 Posts 11/08	Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 4:37AM You gotta be ready to take criticism, and adjust/better your "skills" immediately. I think you have a great thing going, as in being a member here... since we'll tell you what we like. You have your IR fans, young looking girl fans, anal & dp fans, and etc, all here. From saying that, I would definitely try to get as many different fans as possible. Which means, being not so "limited". I don't think you have to jump in doing anal, but you might end up having to incorporate it later. I'm not so sure what you look like, so I don't know what your "look" would be. I say.. jump into the IR field, immediately. Especially if your really a looker... I've heard people say "the IR field doesn't get the really pretty girls". [edit: I found this article, idk if everyone has seen it yet.] Edited by - xayhoundb on 8/18/2009 5:03:19 AM [Link]
jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06	Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 4:46AM At least be willing to take it up the arse. The amount of teenagers to precious for anal entering the industry is become tiresome. The amoung of talent in the industry is extremely lacking these days. It's only the hardcore brigade of old pros and a few of the newbies like Kristina Rose and Andi Anderson breathing life into the industry at the moment. Thank god old pros like Hillary Scott and Eva Angelina have come back into the fold. Nothing says romance like anal sex. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 6:46PM I don't work in the industry, but I do have some advice. 1. Consider very carefully whether you want your family/friends/boss/priest/rabbi finding out about your vocation. I guarantee, they will! 2. Make a list of what you like, what you are willing to do for money and what you won't do under any circumstances -- and stick to it, no matter what a producer/director tells you! Also, accept that these lists will change as you go through life -- just because you did something a day/week/month/year/decade ago doesn't mean you have to do it again. 3. Watch Porn 101 and 102 at www.aim-med.org. They will send you a free DVD if you don't have a high speed connection to view the tapes. 4. Be willing to get blood tests at AIM and pay for them monthly (it is $300 a month) -- it is almost standard to have to show an STD test to work. Also, make your partners show their most recent tests (on the set) before agreeing to work with them. 5. Don't do anal until you are good at it and it does not have to hurt. Start with your BF sticking a finger up your ass, then two, then three, then a small penis, then a larger penis/dildo. This process can take weeks to work up to a penis. 6. Live/work in California (mostly the San Fernando Valley IIRC). 7. Attend trade shows in Las Vegas twice a year to mollify your fan base and be personable in doing so. This likely costs money but builds up your fan base. 8. Tour once a year to 10-12 cities to "dance" in strip clubs (you can make money doing this, also). This builds up your fan base. I hope this helps. Also, remember don't let a scumbag director (there are all types) goad you into doing something that you are not comfortable with. You may lose one day's work but won't lose a lifetime's worth! Edited by - mharris127 on 8/20/2009 6:43:22 PM [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Aug 18 2009 : 6:52PM Great input mharris! [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 6:57PM More advice: 1. Stay off of the hard drugs such as heroin, crystal meth, LSD, PCP, etc. 2. Take what critics say about your body with a grain of salt, you will know (in most cases) what you need to do with yourself. 3. Keep track of what scenes you do and the payment arrangements for them. Make sure you get paid for all scenes -- some scumbags will attempt to avoid paying you. 4. Carry your own "kit" to shoots. In this kit should be condoms (both latex and polyurethane), KY Jelly/lube, paper towels/baby wipes, clothing in your size for different situations, change of underwear (thong-type if female), any toys you need, Viagra (if a guy), soap, hair shampoo, a basic first aid kit, sea sponges (if female) and any prescribed medications needed that day. Also, an MP3 player and headphones with your favorite songs and some magazines to read would be a plus. 5. If you use toys, please bleach them after use -- your partners don't want any STD's from them because of use on prior partners! 6. Be clean, no one wants to screw a smelly pussy! If you have a yeast infection or an raging STD, don't work as talent! [Link]
JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09	Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 7:34PM AIM tests run $120 a month for industry folk. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 10:35PM ^ That is just for HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. With the risk in porn, I would bet that most do the $300 everything panel monthly (or they should). For women a pap smear is also a good idea at least bi-monthly. [Link]

JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09	Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 12:45AM mharris127 wrote: ^ That is just for HIV, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. With the risk in porn, I would bet that most do the $300 everything panel monthly (or they should). For women a pap smear is also a good idea at least bi-monthly. Click to expand You'd bet wrong. Edit: Ok, I'll elaborate. I'm a relatively new performer. My girl, Charlotte has been in the biz for over a year. The advice we share are based on our own experiences as people who went from complete outsiders to making this a full time career in about 18 months. MHarris offered some good springboard points. First off though: If you're going into porn because you want to experiment with your sexuality: DON'T. Do it in private, off camera, where you can experience your wildest fantasies for YOUR enjoyment. If you find it's fun being watched and exciting to try new things, THEN you might want to consider working in porn. Like he said; look in the mirror. Someday, someone you know is going to come across a movie you've made. It might be your best friend, it might be your worst enemy, it might be your third grade teacher, it might be your dad. Are you prepared to face what comes of that? Of everyone you've ever known or ever will know (including your children) potentially finding the porn you've been in? If you're still up for this, find an agent. Not some douche from the phonebook, some 'guy you know who can hook you up.' An agent. Someone who's only interest in you is the dollars you can bring in. If all you are is money to him, the relationship starts and ends clearly as a business transaction. The business of making porn is about business, not porn. Get businessmen to back you, not someone who claims to love and cherish you. Do your homework, know your agency. There's a reason for having pages and pages on the net testifying why Mark Spielger is one of the best in the business, and why you can't find a single page praising agent Joe Schmuchatelli. If your agent hasn't earned a reputation, it's because he doesn't have one (an indication that he's changed names often enough to bury his bad rep.) Have a positive attitude. Lots of 'average' girls get work, because they're friendly and easy to work with. Lots of upper girls are snubbed because they're not. Keep your boyfriend out of your business. (I know, I come off like a hypocrite here.) Most directors have had bad 'boyfriend' experiences. Yours is more likely to be another than a help. A girl who portrays herself as 'available' is far more likely to land more work. The first time your guy storms on set to chew a director out is the last time that director (and most of his buddies) will ever work with you. Exceptions to this rule are like blonde Japanese girls. Live within your means. The first $1000 check you get may look vaguely like Prada; in fact, it looks like Rent. Save your money, be smart about what you're doing with it. You probably won't make nearly as much, per hour, as you do working in porn. Don't piss it away on purses and shoes that will collect dust in six months. Never work with someone who hasn't shown you their AIM test. Ever. Ever. Don't work with someone if you haven't shown them yours. If they'll work without your test, they'll work without someone elses, yesterday, the day before.... Keep off drugs. Drugs, shoes, and vacations are shiny pretties. Enjoy life, but know that you're living in reverse; next year, there will be someone prettier, sexier, and better paid than you. Don't be late, and never, never, never flake on a shoot. If your sick, be ready to visit the ER. If you're late, call. If you don't show, be ready to find a new career. Lots of girls are eager to take your shoot, and show the director how much sexier, wilder, and more professional they are than you. Don't give them that chance. Beyond this, if you don't have an agent, you're either incredibly wise or incredibly foolish. Agents aren't just bookers; they're your advice pipeline. It's in their interest for you to be happy, healthy, and well paid (they take a cut of your money, the more you earn, the more they earn. The more valuable you are, they more valuable you are to them.) Be completely honest with them, when in doubt ask their help, and don't EVER. MHarris, The 'standard' adult panel is the $120 HIV, Gonorrhea, and Chlamydia tests. I've never seen or heard of a director or talent expect more. I'm not saying it doesn't happen; I'm saying I've never heard of it. John Edited by - JohnHenry on 8/21/2009 1:23:24 AM [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 3:11AM (Quote from John Henry: The 'standard' adult panel is the $120 HIV, Gonorrhea, and Chlamydia tests. I've never seen or heard of a director or talent expect more. I'm not saying it doesn't happen; I'm saying I've never heard of it.) For some reason that doesn't surprise me about directors and AIM tests. Don't get me wrong, most are probably nice people (I know I would be as one) but his/her biggest concern is cranking out good material while staying this side of legal. It is the talent that I thought would require more. Frankly, I would want to know what my status was if I were out on the front lines fucking for a living and would appreciate those who felt the same. The $120 test does not do that, in my opinion. Add a syphilis test to that monthly and hepatitis testing bi-monthly and I would feel better. You can give a lot of people syphilis in the six month time frame that Sharon Mitchell advocates. Unfortunately, you have to go with the status-quo in the industry, especially if no one else thinks that the extra testing is important (I would also like to see more condoms in B/G scenes, in my opinion they usually don't ruin the scene unless it is a cream pie or swallowing scene, but others disagree). What you have is much better than nothing and seems to work well in dealing with the HIV epidemic (four cases in eight years is actually an excellent record). My suggestion to new talent is to pay the $300 and get the full STD test upon entering porn and monthly thereafter. They can think about it carefully and then decide if it is worth it to them. Edited by - mharris127 on 8/21/2009 3:28:30 AM [Link]
JohnHenry Member 165 Posts 3/09	Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 4:40AM mharris127 wrote: (Quote from John Henry: The 'standard' adult panel is the $120 HIV, Gonorrhea, and Chlamydia tests. I've never seen or heard of a director or talent expect more. I'm not saying it doesn't happen; I'm saying I've never heard of it.) For some reason that doesn't surprise me about directors and AIM tests. Don't get me wrong, most are probably nice people (I know I would be as one) but his/her biggest concern is cranking out good material while staying this side of legal. Edited by - mharris127 on 8/21/2009 3:28:30 AM Click to expand Currently, there's no legal standard in place requiring any form of STD testing. Ostensibly, there are general CAL-OSHA rules related to reasonable protection from potentially infectious and hazardous fluids, but nothing currently, clearly, legally implemented or enforced. AIM does recommend full panels on the way in, and regular testing beyond the norm (ironically, the way gas stations recommend you use the most expensive gasoline they sell.) Currently, that's just not what is required to shoot. John [Link]
poloprinz Member We didn't bring a compass 'cause we ain't got nowhere to go 173 Posts 4/09	Posted - Aug 23 2009 : 9:55AM Lots of good advice here, I think. I'd like to add: -If you consider doing anal creampies, read this first (the post by Tricia Devereaux). -Good post by Bobbi Starr regarding full panel testing. -Check out all information that's available online from pro-active performers like Belladonna and Sasha Grey. They have lots of experience and insights to share. If you're looking for advice, female performers should be your first target. -Keep in mind that no matter how good the advice of another person is and no matter how much experience they have, it might still not work for you. If you really intend to make this a long-lasting career, you will have to make your own decisions and make up your own rules based on what is right for you. [Link]
Emma Voyeur Member "A nymphomaniac is a women as obsessed with sex as the average man." 14 Posts 7/09	Posted - Oct 2 2009 : 8:16PM good fucking advice! can I give you head? haha [Link]
Chandra88 Member 11 Posts 11/09	Posted - Nov 23 2009 : 2:06AM Emma girl lemme tell u its all turning into shittttttt............I got into porn less than six months ago cuz I truely love sex and Im an exhibitionist (and I love the $$$$ duh) but work is becoming less and less and Ive changed three agents (all TOP agents btw) cuz I dont wanna pay for their mortgage while they rent me a tiny room with a shared bathroom for $1K a month. My last agent pushed me to do anal and thats fine n everything but then he asked me to do an anal creampie and I said FUCK YOU!!!! Scumbags are everywhere and you need to be really carefull...last week my new agent takes me on a go see at Husler which I thought was this huge company in Beverley Hills and instead is a small wearhouse in Chatsworth (WTF???) and I ask to go to the bathroom to freshen up before I take my clothes off cuz we been driving around all day and I just wanted to be clean and this butch girl whose in charge shows me to the bathroom and then just follows me in and asks me if I wanna do a line..........Im like, I dont do that shit and Im sorry if y'all think its cool but just cuz I like sex doesnt mean Im gonna be self-destructive so I turn it down and the bitch just sits there and does a bump and starts telling me how pretty I am.......dude I just wanted to pee and clean up!!! So she tells me she books all the girls and she can get me allot of work if I give her 50 bucks for each booking!!!!!!! Im like in shock, I mean I guess you can expect shit like this but from a big company???? How pathetic is that? So yea you can still work, I always do 2-3 scenes a week, you just gotta play the game a bit and get smart. This other company that Im not gonna name names (cuz they hire me allot LOL) they always get me to do extra stuff like a long bts thats like a whole masterbation scene and that mobile shit which is like half hour of striptease, and I know they make extra $$$$ for it when I still get the same rate but who cares, y'know? Dancing is really good but you first gotta have some boxcovers cuz you can sell your signed dvd's on the road for $40 and you buy them for $5 each from the company (some douche sales guys try to charge you $10 and tell u need to pay cash and their full of shit cuz their pocketing the money......so just ask for an invoice). But the best advice is to be clean, proffesional and always show up on time (and make sure u actually show up LOL) dont create drama on set and flirt with the the director but dont ever fuck him cuz he'll never hire ur ass again LOL. Your boyfriend might be cool n all, but lemme tell u hes gonna get wierd really fast so u better think about it b4 you drag him into this. Dont charge crazy money but NEVER EVER lower you're rate even if u need the $$$$. Ive got this small internet company that I give special deals to, but thats just cuz they book me for like a BG a GG and a solo on the same day and their super nice. Anyway I hope you make it and maybe soon well get to work together ;)) Theres a lot of good advice here, were all like a big family. And I love the name Emma Voyeur!!!! Im sure Voyeur Media will book you right away LOL!!! xoxo [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Nov 23 2009 : 9:27AM This is a great thread with a ton of advice for aspiring talent it should be summarized in a fag and glued on top in the star crossed forum so that its available for all newcummers since there start to be really much industry people in here. [Link]
julien1982 Member Mean and Rude 600 Posts 7/05	Posted - Nov 24 2009 : 10:49AM Thanks for sharing, Chandra. Edited by - julien1982 on 11/24/2009 10:49:32 AM [Link]
billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07	Posted - Nov 24 2009 : 11:41AM Emma Voyeur wrote: good fucking advice! can I give you head? haha Click to expand I'll give you a shot Emma -- hit me up. [Link]
billywatson Manojob.com 939 Posts 1/07	Posted - Nov 24 2009 : 11:42AM I didn't mean I'd give you a shot blowing me...I'll hire you. lol [Link]

seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09	Posted - Nov 24 2009 : 9:07PM julien1982 wrote: Thanks for sharing, Chandra. Edited by - julien1982 on 11/24/2009 10:49:32 AM Click to expand rofl, um yaaaaa. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Nov 25 2009 : 1:47AM billywatson wrote: I didn't mean I'd give you a shot blowing me...I'll hire you. lol Click to expand Billy Watson can make you famous !!! Michael www.2257Safe.com www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link]
charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 10:30PM do only lesbian scenes. add some years to your life by not worrying so much about HIV or anal damage. many companies apparently include anal clauses in their contracts and set a minimum number of anal scenes for their contract stars. being required to do anal to get work fits my definition of rock bottom. Edited by - charn on 1/6/2010 11:29:52 PM [Link]
TeganLovesSara Deactivated User Are you smoking yet? 252 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 11:43PM close to 40 post and noone asked little red riding hood (the op) to post a pic? what's wrong you pervs.... [Link]
Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 5:45AM There probably have been to many fake ones around asking for advice making everyone not believing in it so there fore not even thinking of the idea of asking since the person probably would stop posting which she/he obviously has done already. [Link]
Firpo Deactivated User 102 Posts 3/11	Posted - Apr 8 2011 : 8:11PM First year work for free to gain experience. [Link]
tbetts12 Member 87 Posts 11/10	Posted - Apr 9 2011 : 7:37PM if money is a concern to you. I would say dont do porn,the money for what youy may give up as far as freinds or family is not worth it. girls are telling me the 1,000 dollar for an average gonzo scene is dead. girls are getting between 400-800 now. unless you are realy popular and have boxcover power. and alot of chicks are lucky to get 1 scene a week you can work two weeks at an office job for 8.50 an hr and make that kind of money and not have to worry about someone coming across your tape. and the sex on pornsets is not that great hot lights alot of uncomfortable positions alot of starting and stopping stoping for photo stills. the good things is you get to meet alot of ppl and its a quick way to earn cash short term if u need a a bill paid,but not longterm. and you get to live in southern california. make your beest choice wish you luck. [Link]
Shotgun84 Member A great philosopher once wrote naughty, naughty, very naughty. 167 Posts 1/10	Posted - Apr 9 2011 : 10:01PM You probably could. Can't really say without you posting a pic though [Link]