Seems like I've had an ever increasing number of DVDs (and DVDRs for that matter) lately that have had scratches or other 'dirt' on them causing the disc to freeze or jump to a diferent part of the disc. Therefore I'm spending more and more time trying to skip past these faulty bits while watching DVDs.
Can this actually cause damage to my DVD player? Although I'm finding more films that do freeze or jump about, I now don't know if its a dodgy disc or if my player is starting to get temperamental.
All I know is that whenever I tried to play dirty/scratched discs, it would sometimes cause my DVD player to lock up since it cannot read it. Never caused any permanent damage to the unit itself.
But if you put a lot of dusty discs in your DVD tray, that will definitely build up and prevent the laser from reading the disc properly. That's why I spray the disc tray with canned air every once in a while.
I'm not sure about any permanent damage from reading scratched discs though.
if there's still dirt on them, particles are a no-no. really scratched discs ask a lot of the parts that do the tracking and calibration of the actual laser and the mechanical noises you hear with scratched discs aren't necessarily indicative of your player about to break into pieces. they are a sign that there's increased stress and more importantly, increased heat. there's a lot of plastic in the tracking arm and around the laser and you're accelerating the inevitable warping that causes the laser to not track right. i wouldn't worry about feeding it the occasional problematic disc, but i wouldn't go on a monthlong safari while it's struggling to read a disc.
Thanks everyone who replied, some useful advice there. Can anyone recommend a good cd/dvd repairing fluid that actually works? I've got some stuff thats supposed to help repair scratched discs and eliminate skipping/freezing but to be honest every time I've used it hasn't done a thing, I think its overdue for the dustbin.
If you're desperate and the disc won't play otherwise, you might want to take a chance with car polish. I successfully repaired a couple of CDs that way once.
I know this sounds stupid but toothpaste works great small circles rubbing softly will buff out scratches. follow with hot water and window cleaner and lense cloth.
The head on a DVD or CD is “active” - it is constantly moving in three dimensions to compensate for wobble when the disc is spinning (you may not be able to see any wobble but it's there). Any debris (dirt) that gets into the motors will do no good.
Avoid placing paper labels on a DVD or CD. There are many problems: over time the label may peel off damaging the disc, and the label may add enough imbalance to the disc to stress the spindle and arm compensation mechanisms.
I agree with EL_: if a disc is damaged or cracked then it may well damage a drive, especially a computer drive that tries to spin up to very high speeds. Not as dangerous as the possibility of a cracked laserdisc shattering when spun up in the old days but the same kind of thing.
As for scratch repair, I'm not sure what the dominant effect is here. The data layout of a disc is already highly resistant to scratches. It may be that the real goal here is to prevent a scratch in the disc from scattering the laser beam: I doubt you can really repair a disc so well with casual repair techniques to render the bits underneath readable: you may instead be trying to limit the damage to a smaller area by eliminating unwanted light scatter by the scratch.
(on this last point I'm thinking of the incident at the McDonald Observatory where someone fired a gun at a primary mirror, chipping it, and the fix was to paint the scratched area black to prevent reflections)
jrv's dead right about keeping dirt, dust, anything foreign away from your dvd-player. they may sell them at wal-mart, but it's still delicate, calibration-sensitive technology. hell, it shoots laser beams, jetsons-style.
turn it off, not in sleep-mode, when you're not using it. it gets hot inside and heat warps plastic and will ultimately lead to problems reading discs in a few years. in fact, stuff like that is rated to run x-hours at x-degrees, the warmer the shorter the life. if it's got a vented area, make sure it's unobstructed and not stacked on top of an amp(my linn would only last a day if the amp below it overheated and shut off first).
for scratches, you've got a decent amount of clear plastic to work with before you get to the reflective part with the data(if that's damaged, forget about it). the easiest and best way is brasso, applied radially with felt then polished off. automotive polishing compound is a little inferior, but works. if you've got a private airport near you or something that sells small plane supplies, seriously look into the stuff called micro-mesh they use to polish the scratches out of windows-it's about $20 for a bunch of it.
I have played a few discs that seem to be in perfect condition but the dvd player still makes a loud motor noise. This often dies down as i skip through the disc. Does this suggest that there is indeed something wrong with the disc itself?
no I bet those discs are single layer discs and the drive thinks it can read it at 16x/max speed so I ramps the drive up super loud. can you confirm that the "problem discs" are single layer. You might install the software from you drive and see if they have a quiet hack.
If the noise is bearing noise then yes you're eating away lifespan with the disc. But the DVD laser may be the limiting factor anyway - the DVD laser is rated for only a fews hundred hours (or was a couple of years ago).
I've experienced the same kind of problem a couple of times. Really strange, because it happened with brand new DVDs and the discs seem to be in perfect condition too. The noise is very loud when I play the main menu and during the first 5 minutes of the movie then disappear.
It seems every time I receive some DVDs, at least one of them suffers from this matter
Does anyone know about the percentage of DVDs affected by this defect?
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Well, I would have to go back to my original post. I still seem also to be experiencing a higher number of discs that seem to have problems playing. doesn't matter whether they have scratches or not. Only last night I had problems playing a disc which appeared to be in perfect condition, only for it to seize up during the best scene on the disc (why is it always during the scene that I really want to watch?!). I had to go to the next scene and search backwards to get to the point where it froze.
I'm now really beginning to believe that my DVD player is either becomming worn down from heavy use and can no longer cope with discs that aren't in pristine condition, or that playing faulty discs really is srewing up my player in the long term.
My advice is to try and avoid playing discs that you know to be faulty, and if you use your player an awful lot then I guess the only fail safe, albeit expensive solution is to replace your player every couple of years.
Although I would have to add that never in my life, not once, have I had any problems with non-adult DVDs. Shame really.
Yes, I have the exact same problem with many of the new DVDs I bought in the last few months. When I put it in my old player, he has trouble to read them (picture freezes very often). My new player (only 1 year old) make very loud noise during the reading of the disc and when playing the menus. During the movie the noise normally disappears.
I've never had the problem with non-adult DVDs, and I can't believe that it is my player, it must be the disc. And from the last ca. 30 DVDs I bought ca. 50% had that problem. I'm really curious, how long it takes until my player is defect because of this.
Don't recall ever having a problem with a mainstream movie - no wait I lie - only a couple of days ago I had "long Way Round" freeze (it was a rental mind so who knows what state it was in)
On the other hand I get more and nmore Adult ones that have problems - I have probably had somewhere between 8-12 titles, maybe even more have such problems. They either just freeze, or they judder then freeze, pixelate then freeze or similar.
What I really don't get is that it is often discs that played flawlessly the last time I played them. Also I look after my discs really well - stored in plastic sleeves that hold 2 discs with cloth seperating the two discs.
Does anyone have any idea why this happens to discs ?
I bought some movies from a company and they were scratched but I couldn't help it but to play those movies in my dvd-rom and next thing you know after 2 days my dvd-rom wasn't working. It can't read at all now, no music cds, no application cd, dvd movies, nothing! nada! :(
The same thing just happened to me. I rented a DVD from Xrent that was severely scratched. MY DVD Rom could not read any discs after that. But I went back a to restore point from the day before and that seemed to fixed the problem, though I didn't dare try playing that same DVD again...
Maybe I'm wrong here, but - - Aren't DVDs read by a laser? and there is no physical contact when reading a DVD? With no contact, how could a scratched DVD ever harm the player?
I can see how a scratched DVD may not play properly, but I don't see how attempting to play it could harm the player.
Can somebody explain how it could?
Edit: Went back over the thread, and I see jamesboston's comment. Makes sense - the player is 'working hard' to figure out how to read the DVD. I can see how doing this to it repeatedly would eventually wear out the player. It is going to wear out eventually anyway. :) I still don't see how trying a scratched DVD to see if it is playable could have damaged your player right away.