I mean can porn studs satisfy a women. If so wouldn't they be in demand on the talk show circuit, giving pointer on the art of cunnilingus or just how to hit it to drive your women to new heights, or writing How-to books for the masses
The Hedgehog with more than three thousand movies to his credit should have deveolped a technique's similar to the Jedi mind trick make a women cum by thinking and pointing at her.
Do these guy get work as studs and Gigolos?
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duffy Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 18 2007 : 11:38AM
It's all mental. Women don't get off on babbling robots like the Hedge.
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RoxettaXXX Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 18 2007 : 11:48AM
You have chemistry with some, more than others. Some guys are such sweethearts. Girls get horny too, or else there wouldn't be vibrators, LOL! It just depends on the guy and your personal attraction to him. It is something that is hard to explain on why one is more appealing and enjoyable than another.
I suppose it's up to debate. I personally don't think most have all that great a technique, well no better than most of us non--porn guys alway. I don't consider most porn fucking to be what I'd call "real fucking" though. What porn guys clearly have over most non-porn guys is a somewhat unique ability to hold-out or hold-off from coming for incredibly long periods. Some are probably more athletic than most "regular" guys too. Now that I think about it though. After seeing my share of pro-am porn over the years, seems a lot of regular guys can't keep a rhythm to save their lives, and generally cum way too soon, usually within about 5 minutes. I don't know, but I can't say I'm always that impressed with the fucking I see onscreen though, just way too much starting and stopping for my taste.
It seems that the porn guys don't follow any of the basics that make women cum at least in my book. Like 20 minutes of kissing and fingering or oral before dicking. Then while dicking a lot of slow pelvis to pelvis contact with rocking & grinding motion and with two handed ass grabbing. Or when doing doggie, reaching around and fondling their clit and kissing their necks. That's what I've found that makes women orgasmic. Sure some women cum if you just wink at them but that's a very rare bird.
But then what do I know I've only fucked 100 women in my life. These porn pros have probably fuck 10s of thousands. Maybe one of the women can answer. Do you prefer the hard slamming of a big dick without all that foreplay fondling shit?
RosettaXXX, thanks for joining the discussion, its always good to hear from those who have personal experience. The question goes more toward technique, does the studs style have anything to contribute to your enjoyment, or is personal expression of style/technique constrained by the business of making a porn movie?
There are certain porn studs that appear to be good lovers. Mark Ashley immediately comes to mind, as does Justin Slayer and Manuel Ferrara. What sets them appart is their attentiveness, rather than their technique. I think a guy can have certain moves he's good at, but that doesn't make him a good lover. The key is adapting his skills to please the particular woman he's with.
Who knows if these guys apply this openness to their personal lives. If they do, then they're probably pretty good in the sack.
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downtowncharly11 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 18 2007 : 10:44PM
So does the Viagra make it easier for the porn Guys to "Hold out" cause thats what i heard. Maybe not specifically viagra, but those types of meds.
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_swede_ Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 19 2007 : 5:14AM
Ofcourse most of them are good, I mean they fuck for a living :P
But I'm afraid that guys Erik Everhard or Manuel Ferrara would scare the hell out a normal girl. They fuck so hard it's ridicilous
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Jan 19 2007 : 6:43AM
Porn guys can get hard, stay hard, and cum on command (more or less). They can also do this in a room full of people that might distract most. It's nice that you feel confident in your lovemaking ability, and even superior, but it isn't as easy as it looks. It would be nice if some nuance was added to the fucking, and sometimes it just works out that way, but the bottom line is everybody involved wants to get things over in as short a time as possible. Amateur video that I've seen, which included all the things most people do at home, is stultifyingly boring.
Porn Sex does not = Real life at home sex. Nor is it a good indicator of what a person can do at home. I've been with girls who barely move on camera, but party with them off set and they are animals. Also some girls go nuts on camera but at home all they do is lie there.
Porn sex requires angles, opening up for the camera, and staying in uncomfortable positions, to get the right shot for the right length of time. Heat can be added by performers with chemistry, but like real life that depends on the people involved.
No. It doesn't. But it is an absolute minimum requirement that too many male performers can't consistently meet. At least as long as those conditions are met, there's a decent chance of a good, hot scene. If the dude can't even get a hard on, forget it.I've seen some pretty good amateur stuff. I've seen some really terrible amateur stuff as well (worse than the worst pro stuff). That makes renting or buying it more risky. You might strike gold....or you might just be throwing your money into the wind.
Well actual fucking would be preferred by me, but I don't think it's gonna realistically happen that often. Just because certain films look seamless and flawless, don't mean they are or were. It's still a film being made at the end of the day. From what I've learned to understand, sex films are rarely "easy" to make, despite how it may look onscreen. I seem to remember Quaze saying "that even the simplest scenario can take a long time to shoot." Or something to that affect. I've also heard that a sex scene can actually take hours to shoot sometimes, and is rarely continuous. And unfortunately unlike in films, most women probably can't cum in 5 minute spurts, nor would I suspect most would want to. Add that a lot of the times, the performers just simply aren't that attracted to each other, which can take all the heat out of the best of intentions.
Now this isn't to suggest it can't happen, or never happens, but I think it's pretty rare. Real fucking can tend to look pretty boring to most fans it seems. And even if it didn't, I seriously doubt most producers really care one way or the other. Porn is a business just like any other, and at the end of the day, money being made is all that matters.
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Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 3:53AM
You're watching a performance. It's not the same as two people who have an investment in each other, and you can't compare what you do in your bedroom to what goes on in a porn set. As RP said, it can be scintillating when the performers click, but that can't be counted on, and the demands of the shoot make most guys kind of robotic. I feel like more can be done to improve chemistry and get away from cookie cutter and menu driven scenes, but it still isn't going to carry much emotional weight very often.
I'd be inclined to believe, the greatest performance disparities, between today's Porn Stud and the average Joe gigolo, would likely become more and more prevalent, as the female candidates, become more and more attractive.
I've been thinking this for a while but just haven't said it yet.
I don't think it really matters (within reason) how attractive the girls are. Most porn chicks are (or can be) reasonably attractive. They probably wouldn't be in the business if they weren't.
What really matters more than anything in a performance is the person's mind. The brain really is the primary sexual organ. In order to be a good porn performer, a person needs to be able to look beyond whether or not they find the person they're doing the scene with physically attractive. They need to be able to connect and that is pretty much all psychological.
Some of my favorite porn girls wouldn't qualify as high fashion models but their performances are usually smokin' hot. Even if I'm not initially all that attracted to her on a physical level, if I like the way she squeals, or giggles when the guy rubs her clit, or the expression she gets on her face while she's getting a fat cock up her ass in RC, that's all it takes to send me over the edge. If I like the way her legs look in a certain position or the way her tits bounce as she's getting her pussy pounded good and hard, it doesn't really matter that much if she has movie star looks or if she just looks like some random girl I might be mildly attracted to on the street.
I find the way some women talk (or even the tone or pitch variations of their voices) or a certain look they get in their eyes as they slowly play with long, glistening stringers while giving a BJ way hotter than just how pretty they are.
There are tons of girls who look way hot but just don't know how to fuck in a way that's well suited to porn (This is not intended as an insult to anyone. It's just a fact).
If she doesn't have a clue what looks and sounds sexy to you or I, she probably isn't turning the "stud" on much either. And being young and pretty with a tight body won't help much. That's all some people care about but a lot of us need more to get our engines going. Porn studs get to fuck pretty girls every day. If I have a hard time getting wood sometimes watching stuff that should turn me on but just doesn't because the girl just ain't pressing the right buttons, imagine how the dude in the scene feels.
A lot of girls are just too stiff and are either trying too hard to appear be somebody that they aren't or are too self-conscious to let their true sexual self out. I keep saying this but a pose should never look like a pose. Even if it's uncomfortable, it should look natural.
Anyway...assuming the stud doesn't have problems with ED....if she can get him good and turned on, he can probably fuck her in a way that'll get her turned on as well.....which, in turn, will get us off.
I suspect that most of these guys have boned so many women by now that they really don't know or care what the end of their dick is plugged into. Even Peter North used to do gay flicks and he says he ain't gay. Beautiful chick, fat chick, ugly chick, man's ass hole, dog, horse whatever! Lets just get to the gravy strokes and collect the check.
"menu driven scenes" describes it perfectly "Performance" is for soft-core. Having an investment, I assume an emotional one has nothing to do with fucking each other into a lather you don't have to like them to fuck them. the demands of the shoot isn't written in stone, Whatever makes for a robotic scene should be excised, modified moved, or whatever it takes. Its GONZO I want to see what how she behaves when she actually comes. Not the recreation of the restaurant scene from When Harry Met Sally.
I suspect that actual fucking would be the preference of most viewers. The consensuses seems to be that porn studs fucking as they do on the set isn't nearly enough to satisfy anyone, including themselves and we all know it. Why, because that's not what it about, BS that all its about people fucking. I do recognize the difference between fucking and making love the heading of the post is correct, Couples in a long term relationship both make love and fuck. The best sex I've every had was with women I'd just met or never expected to see again other than causally a moments thought will tell why. Generally the only people who say making a porn movie is hard work are the directors. The rest of us just echo. I'm reminded of main stream actors remarking how they had to arise at 6am to be on the set or the hard(free)training they endure for their 20mil payday. I don't believe them either. If all the stopping and starting is one of the problems that make for robotic scene and lack of heat, get as much of that out of the way before the fucking starts, or after, and really now most of us watch gonzo porn, a series of sex vignette sex being the operative word if the sex isn't good for anyone, but looks good too the director we the viewer are being short changed and are settling for an inferior product The Sex on the set is never good .....except by accident. That's a sad commentary on porn.
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