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conquistador
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 8:01PM
Hi,
I paid enough to build my computer that I think it might be wise for my to get a UPS.
It doesn't have to be large, jut something that will turn my stuff after 5-10 minutes without power.
I would be very upset if sudden lack of power or a big surge kills my computer.
I am not sure which of you live on the east coast but we lost power completely for a little over 3 days about 4 years ago.
I don't have the cash to replace my equipment.
I apologize that I didn't do much before research asking my question but I would like to spend 100$CDN or less for a simple device. (Maybe a little more, but I doubt it is necessary).
Thank you.
EDIT: I write like a fucking palsied chiled.
Edited by - conquistador on Aug 2 2007
Jeff @ IAFD All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 11:01PM
APC makes a decent enough line of UPSs that can be found at Staples, OfficeMax, etc.
I've got a BackUPS 350 on my computer and it seems to do fine in handling the usual brownouts and stuff that accompany summer.
It has a USB connection to your computer, so when it does blackout, as it runs low on batteries, it can send a "hibernate now" signal to your computer so you don't lose anything...
Jeff @ IAFD All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 11:02PM
Staples.com lists it for 41 bucks and Amazon has some used/new sellers as low as $30.
Drew Black
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 11:09PM
There are a couple of sellers on Ebay that refurbish off-lease APC UPS systems. They replace the batteries, clean em up and test em. I've had pretty good luck with them. 1 year warranty but no multi-thousand dollar lightning protection policy on the refurbs.
I might have an APC 1400 (or three) around here I'll part with for $100/each+shipping. (They are heavy, like 50 pounds or so.) Since we're no longer in the hosting business we don't have a need for them.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 1:03AM
Drew@
Could you sell one for 100 Canadian?
Is it something worth getting.
I built my CPU last summer for around 2500$

EDIT: Is it worth arranging buying from you or buying one locally?

Edited by - conquistador on 8/3/2007 1:05:38 AM

 
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 1:09AM
Remember I am a cheapskate
Bornyo
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 1:15AM
Don't buy it from Drew, Conquistador- he just wants your home address so Steph can come over and eat your food while you're at work.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 1:28AM
I would be happy to feed Steph and Drew if they come to Canada. I am a decent cook.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 4:51AM
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 5:30AM
Has anyone here ever actually personally lost a computer to a random power surge? Just curious.
croy
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 6:06AM
I've lost other electronics to a power surge.
Then there was that time I created a power surge which took down a large group of workstations. After that my employers built me a proper lab on its own power circuit and a cut-off.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 6:50AM
Always wondered about that. I wonder how much of it is just paranoia so they can sell you expensive surge protectors and stuff? You never read a description of a procedure to do anything to your computer's insides without a warning to properly ground yourself. And yet, I've swapped a lot of hard drives and memory cards and stuff without doing so and haven't fried anything yet.
Edited by - randomprecision on 8/3/2007 6:50:53 AM
GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 7:29AM
Yes, I know of several cases where unprotected computer equipment was damaged and where data was lost due to power line problems. I also know of cases where protected computer equipment was NOT affected (and data was not lost) when other unprotected equipment was damaged -- specifically, lightning took out a telephone system and two modems but did not damage five computers and a router, all of which were on APC surge suppressors and/or UPS/surge suppressor combos.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
catfacemcgee
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 8:37PM
I went to Best Buy like 2-3 years ago and bought a $60 APC. It still works.
It's handled everything it's needed to handle.
No idea if the computer would have been screwed without it or not.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 9:53PM
If your internet connection doesn't go through a surge suppressor then your PC isn't protected. Chances are that a surge through that line will blow the interface, not the motherboard, but ya never know!
 
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 9:56PM
I have a nice surge protector, it was arount 70$
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 10:10PM
I have a really nice one - lightning still blew the crap out of my amplifier.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 12:56AM
APC has an [ invalid url ] where you can get some really good deals on refurbished or overstocked items.
I don't know if they ship to Canada. I went to the Canadian APC site and navigated to the outlet page and the country and the top of the page changed from Canada to US.
As far as good power protection is concerned, I wouldn't be without it. I have my computer and home theater equipment in a finished basement. A few years ago, while I was on vacation, Long Island has 7 straight days of rain, which totaled somewhere between 9 and 12 inches. When I got home, my basement was filled with 5 inches of water.
The only piece of equipment that I lost was my PC. But that was because it was physically sitting in those 5 inches of water. The components that weren't physically in the water (like the hard drive) survived. All of my power strips and UPS's fried. But they protected about $10k worth of equipment.
Bornyo
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Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 1:29AM
Why did your basement flood? If your basement walls leak don't you have a sump pump? Sump pumps are relatively cheap I think you can get one for around a hundred bucks including the float switch.
After your basement flooded what action did you take to prevent a repeat performance?
willywilly
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Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 11:00AM
Surge protectors should take care of spikes. For example, an induced spike caused by a lightning strike near a power or phone line somewhere.
Low voltage is not good though. As in a brownout. Ever seen your lights dim for a moment? not a complete blink out, but just dim? That's low voltage, and it drives power supplies nuts.
That's where a UPS shines. It will handle it for you.
A surge protector does nothing in this case.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 3:14PM
With that storm, nearly everyone's basements took on water to some extent. In most cases is actually came in through the floor. Had I been home during that week, it would have been manageable with the wet vac that I had at the time.
Since then, I've purchased a [ invalid url ] that turns on every 2.5 minutes and check for water. There is a low spot in my basement where water will accumulate should I have a problem. I set this up whenever I go out of town or if there is a heavy multi-day storm and I'm going to work or bed. So far, I've only set it up twice because of storms, neither time did I have any water come in.
The problem with a regular sump pump is that I would need to tear up the finished portion of the basement to have trenches dug out around the walls in order for it to work properly. Redoing the basement is something that I'm considering, but it's still a few years down the road. At that point, I'd rather do something to seal the foundation and floor in order prevent the water from coming in, rather than doing something to get rid of it once it does get in.
So, for now, the utility pump will suffice.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 4:41AM
I'm surprised my computer has never been nailed. Storms all the time around here. Lights flicker like crazy. You'd think I lived in an old house with aluminum wiring......or something.
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