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| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | I'd love to start making some really cool features that just happen to have great sex in them but every time I pitch ideas I get the most confused looks... 'you mean it's not a parody?' How about some originality in Porn? [Link] |
| raybbaby Member Sarah knows why Barack won! 482 Posts 12/09 | |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | As for originality, I disagree with many that think it doesn't take creativity to do these types of movies. We are currently getting ready to shoot Not Charlie's Angels XXX and the entire process will take 4 months. I can also say that this is an expensive as fuck movie to make at over $100,000 I'm not bragging but I just want to let you know that X-Play is not taking the easy way or the cheap way. To gamble that type of money in this era of free porn takes balls or stupidity but we're making the movie as a co-production with Adam & Eve Pictures and X-Play and we think it will be a huge hit. It is going to be great and I am still working on the script as we speak. So to sum up my thoughts: Yes I agree there are too many shitty and stupid parodies but were there too many gonzo movies a couple of years ago? Is it beaten into the ground yet? Yes but there is still room for the good ones and an audience that knows quality. www.sitcums.com |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | |
| XXXenophile Member 343 Posts 1/07 | The incredibly bad parody pornos will find themselves weeded out as the consumers will know who to trust on what's being made and will buy them based on the directors having done enough of it. But with each one the guys I do like produce them, I can't wait to buy them more and more. The important thing is they're trying to tell great stories based on the TV/movies while still keeping the sex scenes hot for everyone to enjoy. As much as I understand you wanting more originality, I'm just glad to see the gonzo craze is out of the picture for the time being. |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | |
| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | Dipshit? IMDB me. Ever touched an Arriflex, Panavision Gold, Eclair, Aaton, Sony F900, Red One? Ever manned a 30 man crew traveling around the world for 6 seasons of shows for HBO/Cinemax as producer/director??? Sure, I'm a real dipshit. |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | It's just the way it is. Love it or leave it. I'm truly sorry :( |
| stickygreenman Deactivated User 36 Posts 12/09 | |
| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | At any rate, I think it would be much better if talented producer/directors created alliances or at least nourished new ideas together rather than create conflicts. I mean after all isn't there a common enemy out there? Free internet porn, piracy, bad porn shot by 19 year olds who just got their Flipcam down at Best Buy... things like that. |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Let's see.... Guy named Gary starts thread about how frustrating it is to attempt to sell "non" parody product to major porn studios. Guy who makes porn parodies gives brief lesson on economics and skillfully inserts a plug for his next project - a parody. Original guy who started post remains silent. Guy who makes parodies calls guy who started thread a "dipshit", apparently in the nicest way possible. Guy who started thread is offended and in self-defense, details a list of his accomplishments inside and outside of porn Guy with too much free time posts sarcastic response to guy who makes parodies. Guy who makes parodies wonders why guy who started thread has "ripped" him and then questions guy with too much free time as to why he posted scathing sarcastic remark. I think that's pretty accurate so far. My observation: I'm not an intellectual by any means but the sequence of events seem to bear out that Gary did not "rip" anyone until he himself was "ripped". I was merely making an attempt at comedy based on Jeff's reputation as a guy who never met a press release he didn't like. Jeff seems to be hurt by all of this for reasons unknown. I have now spent 8 minutes of my life here. I will now use xanax recreationally and get on with my day. Thank you for your time. Edited by - mike quasar on 2/19/2010 7:13:03 PM |
| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | I hope one day Quasar gets a HUGE budget to do a real comedy which allows him to reveal all his talent. Now that would be a funny, side-splitting and VERY successful movie! Good Thoughts, Gary O |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | Mike writes: My observation: I'm not an intellectual by any means but the sequence of events seem to bear out that Gary did not "rip" anyone until he himself was "ripped". How about Gary's original post which was titled: Can we chill on the porn parody plague sometime soon? Is that not a rip? I took that as another rip. I'm not hurt at all by the comments but I do every once in a while get tired of people ripping on an entire genre of entertainment. At X-Play we do things quite simply and that is to pay for every production we make so that we can make exactly what we want and market it how we choose. We don't ask any distribution companies for money so that we are in control. That works for us but not everybody. Why the rant Mike? |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | You did make a very valid point though which is that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and I can see how that might annoy you when you put in so much effort and then GooGoobler video also decides to jump in with "Almost-but-not-quite The Waltons". I think Gary's initial post speaks more to that frustration than any specific bone to pick with you. But then you called him a dipshit Now, Gary's a guy that I admire and respect so I threw in my 2 cents but we're all adults here so let's just agree that there are currently too many people shooting parody movies. You get a pass because you brought this ungodly plague upon us and do a very good job. I know you came from the music world (as did I ). Imagine you've got this amazing demo of incredible songs and every record company you shop it to says "It's good but could you make it sound more like Nickelback?" At some point you might get frustrated and pray that every member of Nickelback OD's and dies in a plane crash. Nickelback never actually did anything to you personally and you might be a little envious of their success but you're frustrated that the entire rock n roll world only wants bands that sound like Nickelback. Gary is the guy with the demo tape. You are Nickelback. I am what Derek Smalls referred to as "luke warm water". I'll go either way as long as I can pay my mortgage. My artistic integrity left with my liver years ago. They now live together in a small duplex in Panorama City. I appreciate that you've been very successful with the entire parody genre but I also understand the point of view of someone who wants to do something other than a parody being looked at like he is carrying an antelope corpse on his back. Wow, this went places I didn't expect. Antelope corpse? Anyways, let's just all agree to disagree and be friends :) P.S. I don't mind Nickelback Edited by - mike quasar on 2/19/2010 9:58:22 PM |
| stickygreenman Deactivated User 36 Posts 12/09 | |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | I pretty much agree with everything you just said. Now for the word dipshit; It is both a rip and a love tap so it is pretty harmless (but effective apparently!) When I was a kid my dad used that word often and I think he used it in place of 'Jeffrey' on numerous occasions. "Where did that dipshit go?" I would like to announce our next movie....Not Dipshit XXX actors yet to be determined. Shit we don't even have the cast completed for Not Charlie's Angels XXX so I guess I shouldn't be worried about Not Dipshit XXX anytime soon. Hey Gary, if we shoot it can we rent two of your big expensive cameras? LOL! I'm sure I wouldn't have a clue on how to turn them on- (Maybe, just maybe if they were 19 with tits I might be able to turn them on but only for a night or two before one of us loses interest or she gets the part whichever comes first!) BTW: The Parody Plague will end only when I say it ends! XBiz just wrote that I am the prince of parodies. I am wondering who the fuck do they think is the king? I guess Axel Braun. Have a great weekend and Will Ryder says hello. |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | |
| Jeff Mullen Member Hall of Famer -Time to get out 219 Posts 1/08 | |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | I'm so happy I self produce (which, BTW, means I'll be able to shoot another movie in, oh, 6 months). Anyway, I'm pretty sick of the parodies, mainly because they're really not all that funny. I haven't seen any by Jeff, except the Cosby's one, and it was certainly better produced than the really, really poor ones, but still not very funny and too sex heavy. Does production on them need to stop? Who in the hell cares? If Jeff and everybody else wants to keep on doing them, they should. People will get tired of them sooner or later as well. But yeah, Gary is dead on...There need to be some more REAL MOVIES made with XXX, not just po-mo irony baiting junk.... Psyched for this: https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=146003/forum_id=15/cat_id=1/reply=1719290#post1719290 |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | The Six Million Dollar Man The Bionic Woman Golden Girls Spiderman/woman Incredible Hulk Godzilla Wonder Woman Superwoman 50 ft. woman Swamp Thing Dark Shadows Dracula The Terminator Star Wars Big The A-Team MASH Threes Company The Twilight Zone Close Encounters of the Third Kind Toy Story Flipper Miami Vice Hawaii Five-O Magnum PI Batman/Catwoman For the best movie/series ideas, head over to the Golden Globe or Oscars web sites and look at all the top movies ever made.Sometimes it's the titles that sell all by themselves. You'd be surprised how much work goes into that one thing. And let's not forget music videos too! How about 99 Balloons! LOL. ... despite the lack of originality, maybe this needs to play out until there is a parody for every show, movie, play and music video ever done. The list is endless! Should last a few years or more, but then what will the industry do for ideas? I'm sure something will come up, LOL. Edited by - Dracula on 2/23/2010 11:03:31 AM |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
| Kelli Member NaughtyNews.Network 220 Posts 8/08 | I mean as a girl maybe I'm biased but most originally scripted features are so beyond stupid. At least with the parody we get a little humor with our porn or a story we can actually relate to. Who didn't want to see Marsha Brady getting it on? I think eventually the fad will die down and we'll go back to making stupid ass movies again but in the mean time as a consumer, I celebrate the rise of the porno parody because some of them are really pretty watchable, not just for the sex factor. Can't ever recall saying that about a normal porn movie, maybe Pirates II aside. |
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| Gary Orona Member Producer, Director, HBO/Cinemax, International Award Winner. 75 Posts 2/10 | |
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| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | Some ideas ... A nude yoga slasher/vampire porn flick? (vampire + yoga, hmm!) More sport themes .. scuba diving, hiking, horseback riding, racecar driving, modeling, hunting, boating, health club working out. |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Off of Dracula's sports idea, I think it would be an awesome project if someone did a Bad News Bears women's softball team movie. Throw in some sexual tension between a male softball coach and pornstar players (sure he has to bang some of them). Sure someone might have to morph the storyline and make it a collegiate women softball team, but I know women's softball is pretty popular. PS I can't believe I'm posting in the Feature Side, but... |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 |
Sports is a great subect I must agree with others on. I wouldn't mind seeing a little more suspense or mystery in my porn also. Comedy always works for me too. And I absolutely love feature based around sex or sexual lifestyles. Sometimes pretense is wanted. |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | I remember how blown away I was (no pun intended) by Stiff Competition -- I genuinely cared who won the competition. It felt like watching Rocky III or something. The movie is silly, but somehow it's edge-of-your seat fun and still manages to be sexy. I realise I'm asking for the impossible, but even aiming toward this format would be cool. I also agree with the horror ideas - but yeah, some of that material is difficult to mix with porn. Powertool Massacre did a good job (they had blood and a killer) but they still didn't show the kills on screen. Here are my favourite themes for porn movies: * Sex workers (centering around the trials and tribulations - and joys - of the sex workers themselves, a la Amanda By Night). * Journeys/Road trips (farcical or otherwise). I like this format (like the Pretty Peaches series) because it's a way of having an ensemble cast, and different situations, without resorting to vignettes. * Porn movies about porn movies (I also like mainstream movies about mainstream movies). I guess a porn movie about mainstream movies would kick ass too. * Like the previous person noted, I like features that grapple with sex and relationships. And I mean, really grapple with it. This leads to some really complex sex scenes, not all of which need to be standard boner-fare. My two cents. |
| TheSpirit Member Riddle me this... 336 Posts 5/07 | |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | |
| Master D Deactivated User 516 Posts 1/10 | Tomb Raider Resident Evil Grand Theft Auto Call of Duty Gears of War Super Mario Bro. Dead or Alive Street Fighter Also that about porn parody of cartoon show like South Park Family Guy The Simpson Cleveland Show Boondocks G.I. Joe Thundercats The Jetson And even reality tv show The Real World Flav of Love I Love Money The Bachelor Suvivor |
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