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| swallowtheload Member  512 Posts 9/04 |  Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 12:31AMFor anyone thinking of joining this website, use extreme caution. I signed up about 2 weeks ago, what a mistake. Not only is the video quality atrocious but there are pre-checked boxes during the sign up process for other sites. When I discovered in addition to my membership I had 2-3 day trial memberships to a number of other websites I immediately got on the merchant website, marketshelp.com, and canceled all trial and my Casting Couch Teens membership. I double, triple and quadruple checked to make sure I had gotten everything, each time I would get the following message, "your membership has been canceled". Well after 3 days my credit card was billed $39.95 for one the websites. I got on the merchant website, entered the appropriate info and got the following message, "your membership has been canceled". I had to call the merchant and have them cancel it that way. I thought my ordeal was over until this afternoon when I got an email from EgladesMGOnline.com telling me my membership had been activated to a site I had never heard of. I went to the merchant website entered the appropriate info and got, you guessed it, "your membership has been canceled". I called the merchant only to find out this was associated with the Casting Couch Teen membership. When I sign up for a website I always keep the email receipt and place them in a folder. I went back and checked my emails and discovered I never got emails to the two websites in question. This is nothing less than fraud as far as I'm concerned. Not sure what I can do, anyone have any ideas? Mods if this is not the appropriate forum please move.  [Link] |
| SwirlieCEO Member Swirlie.Com 241 Posts 11/09 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 12:59AM It's a shady business... and the adult industry has no one to blame but themselves. We have a bunch of fucking cowboys running the show. And then they wonder why they're not making the type of money they used to... - Swirlie Swirlie - Not Porn, But Plenty of Hot Chicks!  [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 1:50AM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14619 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 2:55AM There is no industry-wide body overseeing everybody's business practices. You don't need a license to put up a web-site, and you don't need some mythic porn czar's approval regarding how you operate it. Hence, this attempt to blame "The Industry" and to claim one is taking revenge on this mythic body for being sold a bill of goods is just self-serving sophistry. One might as well claim that one is entitled to steal a Porsche because the Yugo one purchased turned out to be a piece of crap. [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 8:20AM [Link] |
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| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 9:15AM I don't even consider sites like that part of the porn industry, they are just piggybacking on other peoples content. Swallowtheload, go to your creditcard company and ask for a chargeback. Jacco [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 9:47AM Edited by - Rod on 4/17/2011 11:58:05 AM [Link] |
| SwirlieCEO Member Swirlie.Com 241 Posts 11/09 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 11:24AM I'll explain... 1) Almost all of these sites have affiliate programs. They pay (on average) $30 for signups people send. Most of these sites have a trial offer ranging from $1 to $4.95. Since rebilling sucks anymore, they hit customers with hidden cross sales to make their money and justify paying out $30 on a $1 sale. If affiliates stopped pushing these type of shady sites, their traffic would drop massively. 2) Ad networks. These companies can buy ads on various tubes, blogs, etc... for a price. If these networks refused to do business with companies that were known to be shady, then again... their sales would drop considerably. 3) The billers. Companies like CCBill have measures in place to prevent hidden cross sales. Sure, you can have cross sales, but they're not hidden and they're above the join button so you have to see them before you click join HOWEVER, there are other billers that allow all sorts of shady dealings. Most of the time, they'll just bang your card in an endless loop. Quit one site, you're joined up to two more... quit those two, another pops up three months later, quit that site... two more pop up. And this is just a quick reply off the top of my head. Trust me, there is a serious shady underworld going on and everyone just sits on their hands (the industry, that is... not the fans). - Swirlie [Link] |
| Bert Piel Deactivated User 195 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 11:29AM [Link] |
| chopchop Deactivated User 27 Posts 9/05 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 12:22PM [Link] |
| G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 12:49PM [Link] |
| pringles All-Star Member 1352 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 1:07PM New Visa Rule Takes Aim at Third-Party Merchant Cross Sales "The new rule, though crafted to target cross sales, does not appear to be directed at IPSPs (Internet Payment Service Providers), otherwise known as third-party processors, which are widely used by adult webmasters." MasterCard Acting to Eliminate Pre-Checked Cross-Sales "The rule apparently only applies to merchant accounts; IPSPs will not be affected, Cadwell stated in his post." [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2940 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 1:40PM $1 for trial membership - the duration of the trial period was not clearly stated $50 for 1-year membership On the terms and conditions page which was a wall of text, I discovered that the trial membership automatically rebills to $99 per month if not cancelled in time. [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 1:53PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 3:01PM For example Paypal ,at least here in Europe, has a card which can be either a Mastercard or a Visa this is a particular card not associated to any bank account but managed by Visa or Mastercard servers if you want to spend say $ 30 then you load the card with $ 30 and then you pay , if anyone tries to take more than that the card simply won't pay no trick is possible they will find only what you want to pay unless you put more money. The card although it's released by paypal doesn't have Paypal's limitations over porn you can use it the same way as a credit card here it is from Paypal UK Though due to the wide use of regular credit cards upon cash it might be not available in the USA EDIT BTW I don't have a Paypal Card , I'm just aware of their existence Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 4/17/2011 3:09:27 PM [Link] |
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| pringles All-Star Member 1352 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 4:02PM I've posted about disposable credit cards in the past. Thanks for the reminder to bring it up again. [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 4:24PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14619 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 4:37PM 1. Porn producers should stop using affiliate sites. 2. Ad networks should know which companies are shady and shouldn't do business with them (not sure how this is the fault of the porn industry). 3. Porn sites should not use billing companies that allow shady dealing. On point 1: To begin with, are you claiming that all porn producers use affiliate sites? Are you claiming that there is some mechanism to force all porn producers not to use affiliate sites? In other words, how does Good Porn Producer force Evil Porn Producer to go along with this scheme? If Good Porn Producer cannot force Evil Porn Producer to go along is it OK to blame Good Porn Producer? 2. As to ad networks dealing with reputable companies only, I agree with you. I'm just not sure how you expect the porn producer to oversee that. Granted, if it is pointed out to a porn producer that Adz-R-Us is disreputable then we might reasonably expect him to cease dealing with it, assuming there's somebody else who will deal with him. Are we safe in making that assumption? Then again, many people consider porn disreputable to begin with, so it might take a little more than some bald statement to get a porn producer to act. 3. I agree that porn companies should only use reputable billing companies, but it begs the question of how the porn site owner is supposed to know? We'd like to think that all porn producers are deeply involved in the details of their business but somehow I suspect that a good number of them just aren't that business savvy. Who is Pablo Producer supposed to consult about this? [spelling] Edited by - hardware on 4/17/2011 4:39:12 PM [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Apr 17 2011 : 4:57PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Apr 18 2011 : 4:55PM [Link] |
| G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 18 2011 : 6:14PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Apr 18 2011 : 9:13PM [Link] |
| G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 18 2011 : 9:54PM [Link] |
| swallowtheload Member 512 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Apr 20 2011 : 12:45AM [Link] |
| charn fubar 2879 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Apr 22 2011 : 10:05PM [Link] |
| christian_stephanomi Member 21 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 3:11PM Tell me what happen exactly that you could not get your material. Send me a screenshot or send me your user and pass. I will check this out for you. Thanks C [Link] |
| G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 6:25PM [Link] |
| swallowtheload Member 512 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Aug 12 2011 : 2:41PM [Link] |
| Jimmy Hooligan Member 452 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Aug 12 2011 : 2:50PM It sucks that you got screwed. Just charge back any and all fees. It's the only thing you can currently do... - Jimmy Hooligan The Jimmy Hooligan Blog [Link] |
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