Celebrity sex tapes have been around for years, and these days it's usually the celebrity who's trying to sell them.Even though the quality is usually bad I still have this fascination with seeing even minor celebrities have sex.I'm curious if when these cash-strapped or attention starved stars try to sell these tapes if they could be convinced into doing an actual scene.I don't consider family members of celebrities as counting, but some of those Reality TV types might be game.I've heard Hiedi Montag is trying to sell one,is there enough money in it for a company to shell out the exra bucks?Someone like Lindsay Lohan seems like she's one more arrest away from being broke enough to seriously consider it.I'd be curios to see the Jersey Shore girls too.
I'd like to see Snooki's short assed self get lifted off the ground and boned deep and hard by a much taller guy. A round of titfucking and teaching her, on video, how to give some good head would make that video the shit. I'd probably like to see Angela in a video only because she had the best figure in the house. The problem is her fucked up attitude. It would probably keep the shoot from ever getting started, and if it ever started, it would probably never be completed.
Interesting post. My thoughts are... Celebs don't want careers in porn. They still consider it a "step down"--even from Reality TV, or the lowest rung of the Celebrity Status Ladder that Linds Lohan occupies right now. The mainstream public has proven very, very forgiving of "bad" celeb behavior (witness Charlie Sheen, Madonna, John Mayer, etc.), and "comebacks" are part of the Mainstream Celeb life-cycle. With one, big exception: porn-as-a-career choice. In short, the public will accept one/two Celeb sextapes--but NOT a Celeb that makes pro porn. It's still viewed as a form of prostitution. In fact, Hugh Hefner/Playboy tends to "disavow" any Playboy Playmate/model that enters porn (like Teri Weigel). Montana Fishburne (Larry's little girl) stated career choice (of making more porn) is challenging this current status quo, but the odds are not in her favor of gaining mainstream acceptance through a career in porn. Kim Kardashian, who Montana often mentions as a "role model" only had one sexvid released--by her scumbag boyfriend (who owned the tape) and Kim didn't receive any money from it. Her Celeb success is build on marketing herself as a "personality" and part-of-the-Celeb-scene that people want to read about. BTW, the absolute Best Celeb sexvid, ever, is the Karissa Shannon/Sam Jones Vivid release. She's beautiful & girl-next-door sweet; and it's Real Sex--not Porn Sex. Which is also one of the reasons Celeb (and Am/Pro-Am Porn on sites like Party Hardcore, Reality Kings, etc.) are selling so well.
I think most celebs and the public sees a difference between a sex tape being released and someone setting out to make actual porn. I think celebs like Pam Anderson and perhaps Kim Kardashian didn't set out to make porn and didn't want their tapes to be made public but decided that some point to take the money and let the tape be released. On the other hand you've got someone like Amy Fisher, Joey Buttafucco and perhaps Shauna Sand who set out to make porn and claim it wasn't it was a sex tape being put out against their will. Amy Fisher is now officially a pornstar now (I'm a fan), Pam's still around and the sex tape helped her popularity for awhile and Kim K. has turned her embarrassment into a multi-million dollar business and gain fame and popularity along the way. The other people who do or have a sex tape released and have disappeared do so because the sex tape attention will only last so long and at some point if you want the media and people to stay interested you have to do something or have something to offer. Kim managed to stay in the spotlight because of her looks (and butt)and by going to events, hanging around with other celebs and eventually having products and a tv show. Many of the celeb sex tape stars don't do anything interesting after their tapes are released. I think if Heidi Montag(sp)did a sex tape it would help boost her career because she already has people who know who she is and are already interested in whatever goofy stuff she does. I don't think a sex tape would make her a star or she could benifit from it the way Kim has but it would help her career at this point.
I tend to agree with Derek on this one. All the clues certainly point to that because most celebrities have only done one sex tape or should I say only one got released up to now. It's true that many of them made money from the tape but most didn't brag about it. Montana claimed she wanted a career in porn but that was afew months ago and we haven't seen anything else. I think that a known celebrity could make some serious money if she wanted to do porn but that would be a one way road. If you choose to do porn then good luck getting any mainstream network jobs afterwards. A released sex tape is not a career killer but you have to follow the rules: Surprise, outrage, speak to aynone who will listen that you're shocked, an attemp at legal action and then resignation that the deed will happen and makes sure never to reveal the money you made from the tape.
I don't think there's enough money in porn these days to pay "serious" money to a known celeb. People toss out names like Linsey Lohan but Linsey can still make about 20 grand for personal appearances. She's able to generate money at this point so what they could offer her to do porn wouldn't be enough to make her risk her what's left of her career. On the other hand, someone like Nikki Zering had a rumor a few years ago that she might do some porn. Nikki could be a good choice for a big studio to go after because from what I can tell she only does those straight to video movies these days that probably don't pay much. And from the last time I saw her she still had her looks.
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Posted - Dec 6 2010 : 11:13AM
Don't kid yourself. Kim signed a release and Kim got paid. Note to everyone; it's porn. Just because its a psuedo celeb doesn't minimize the fact that it's fucking for the camera. It's sex shot for commercial release and money changes hands. It's called porn. Aurora Snow didn't shoot 500 sex tapes, she shot porn (just using her as an example, not badmouthing her). Kimmy K, Paris, Montana, etc etc all only shot one porn release like hundreds of other girls trying out the industry. The only difference is that they have a little notority because of a family name. Edited by - rosco fuji on 12/6/2010 11:23:41 AM
^I disagree with you for the most part. I consider what Amy Fisher and Montana did "porn" because what they did was accept money for being filmed having sex with the intent of it being distributed or beig made available to the public before hand. With Pam, Paris and perhaps Kim they simply filmed themselves having sex without any plans for the general public to see. Once the tapes went public it then became "porn" but they didn't set out to intentionally make it. I see the difference as Amy and Montana actually intentionally making porn and Pam and Paris having their sex being made into porn. To me it doesn't even matter if they eventually got paid for their tapes, they weren't intentionally making porn.
I don't think there's enough money in porn these days to pay "serious" money to a known celeb. People toss out names like Linsey Lohan but Linsey can still make about 20 grand for personal appearances.
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I'm not so sure that Lindsay is still in a position to get those 20 grand or even 10 grand offers. I think she's more a liability than anything else. It's one thing to pay her to show up and boost attendance at your club but it's another when you fear she'll show up late, drunk, stoned out of her mind or be a complete diva bitch that thinks she's owed that money for being Lindsay. This is a girl that can't even get a job playing a pornstar because no one wants to insure her. That means that almost all studios will avoid hiring her for any major roles because they would have to flip the bills if something happened. She has a certain life style that cost money and when money leaves but doesn't come in then what do you do? It's not like her parents who are both despicable individuals are suddenly going to try to help her. At least her mother certainly won't. This is a woman who got into an argument that her daugher doesn't have a drug problem a couple of weeks before Lindsay admits to drug abuse. I think that if Lindsay were to make a porn movie then she could easily make 6 figures and I'm tempted to say that the first number might be above 1.
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Posted - Dec 6 2010 : 9:52PM
I honestly think celebs shouldnt do porn, taking away from all the hotties that are already in porn!!!<3 **and whoever said they wanted to see snooki shoot porn needs to be shot! ahhh she is soo gross!!! blahhh!! I dont want to see heavy girls being fucked! lol Adult Film Actress Jacky Joy xoxo
^ Well I for one do want to see "heavy" girls being fucked! I don't think Snooki is gross either...annoying yes but not gross. I'd pay to watch Snooki get a good fucking. I'd rather see Snooki over any of the other celebs listed above.
I will volunteer to bone Snooki. She is very cute and I would have paid good money to be the cop to handcuff her and watch her response the night she was arrested!
Wasn't Lindsay one of the B-List stars that Steve Hirsch of Vivid fame offered $1 million dollars to film a sex scene a while back (or was that one Mike South's offer)? I am reasonably sure that offer is still valid.
Although it's difficult for a celebrity to re-cross the line once she's made a porn video (one not produced and distributed by an ex-boyfriend), it's interesting that it's possible for a "legit" actress to perform sexual acts in a "mainstream" film and still maintain her credibility as a legit actress. The two examples that come quickest to mind are Chloe Sevigny, who have a guy a bj in "The Brown Bunny," and Lauren Lee Smith, who in "Lie With Me" had an obvious grip on her partner's dick and who, if she wasn't giving him a blowjob, was so up close and personal with the dick that she might as well have been. Actual fucking? Not definitive, but maybe. What's especially intriguing about Lauren is that she went on to grab a spot for a year on one of TV's highest-rate shows, "CSI," a gig that probably earned her more in that year than she's made throughout the rest of her life. CSI's producers had to know about "Lie With Me," and there were hundreds of other hotties who could have gotten the part, but they chose her.
How do you really, really know that Pam, Paris or Kim weren't expecting the tapes to get released to the public for money? It used to be an actress would do Playboy for publicity, attention, jump start a career or get noticed! Now the route is Sex Tape, or so it seems!
I don't care for celeb porn because most celebs don't know how to fuck and they're not as hot as pornstars either. Watching celeb porn is like watching the Minor League Baseball All-Star Game. Pam Anderson, Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian are all lame lays. I stopped taking all of them seriously as sex symbols after watching their tapes. I'd rather watch Lexi Belle sitting in a chair, doing nothing (like she does in one of her old scenes with Brian Surewood [she's wearing pink hotpants and a half shirt that says, I think, "Tips Welcome"]) than watch, say, Natalie Portman fuck. Remember, celebs are good at faking sexy; pornstars just are without even trying.
Probably not much chance of that...just heard that her clothing line has grossed a billion dollars over the last six years. Plus she's a good christian girl, so not much chance of that ever happening. But like I say in my avatar, a fella can dream....
With Pam it wasn't until after her tape was released to big sales and lots of hupla that anyone realized there was big money and attention to be make from (some)sex tapes. In fact there was another and arguably better sex tape with Pam and Brett Michaels (I think it was him) that was floating around before the one with her and Tommy and it wasn't a big deal at all. With Paris she certainly wasn't hurting for money. Also, at it wasn't proven that for certain that publicity from a sex tape would be good publicity or that anyone would care about a tape with a realitively unknown girl. With Kim I can't say for certain that she didn't plan the whole thing but I don't believe she did just based on her reaction to it then and now. Kim is actually kinda shy and embarrases easily. The way Kim handled her PLAYBOY shoot to me showed she's not comfortable with showing too much. Lastly, if Kim and R-Jay had planned to make a sex tape to propel their careers they would done a much better job with the tape (I would hope). That wasn't the tape of someone hoping to get famous from it. Realistically, there have only been a few people who benefitted from the release of their sex tapes in any real way. Nowadays it seems like a sure fire scheme but only back then it wasn't a sure thing at all. Of course I may be totally wrong but that's my take.
Chloe is the only mainstream actress to have performed a hardcore sex act in a movie and survived the storm that followed it. I think she was very talented but also super lucky. The Brown Bunny could very well have been the last time we would have seen see her do work for a major studio or network. Although Lauren may have been holding a penis in Lie with me. The fact that you don't see it, is the important thing. Lie with me had some seriously hot softcore porn sex scenes in it but Lauren isn't the first actress to have done those and still have a profitable career after it. I don't think any mainstream actress that chooses to do hardcore porn will be able to get any deent offers after it. That doesn't mean that they can't make seriouis money doing porn.
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Posted - Dec 7 2010 : 10:58PM
Shy? Unfortunately for us the woman spends countless hours on TV and is on several magazines covers weekly. This isn't shy, it's attention grabbing. As far as them not thinking about possibly selling the tape, I guess you didn't see the part of the tape when Ray-J was talking right into the camera about it being a Ray-J production.
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Posted - Dec 7 2010 : 11:07PM
Theres a big difference between a $50 million worldwide release versus a $10,000 porn tape. These are serious actresses, and it's all about bring realism to the role, no different than any actor/actress putting on or losing 100 pounds, an actress getting slapped around in the brutal rape scene, learning to ride a horse or bike, shoot a gun, etc Hell, I was just reading that Angelina Jolie had to take Manners lessons for The Tourist. Also everything can be justified as being crucial to the plot, in theory anyway. And as you say, "you don't see it"
How about the new business model? Porn companies make artificial sex tapes for celebrities (probably POV, hiding the guys face like the Shauna Sand tape) which are "discovered" later and there is the whole gamut of face saving denials etc after which the tape is released and profits shared.
[/quote] Theres a big difference between a $50 million worldwide release versus a $10,000 porn tape. These are serious actresses, and it's all about bring realism to the role, no different than any actor/actress putting on or losing 100 pounds, an actress getting slapped around in the brutal rape scene, learning to ride a horse or bike, shoot a gun, etc Hell, I was just reading that Angelina Jolie had to take Manners lessons for The Tourist. Also everything can be justified as being crucial to the plot, in theory anyway. And as you say, "you don't see it" [/quote] There is no denying that there's a major difference between a 50 million movie and a 10,000$ porn film. The pre and post production on many movies today is much larger than the actual filming. The audience for both films is going to be different and the marketing as well, . I think you'd agree that a large part of any budget is the talents salary. How many movies today cost over 20 million before a camera has started rolling? If a major actress chose to do porn then you can bet the budget for that movie would be above a million dollars before the camera started filming and a smart actress would take a percentage from VOD and so forth.