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kinguntermensch
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 2:44PM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/02/17/cgi_in_pornography_can_help_circumvent_l_a_s_condom_law.html
So they use CGI to edit out the condoms? Wow, imagine where this is going! Performers don't have to do anal anymore, just use CGI!
What do you think? Would you watch CGI porn with real people and fake fucking or even fake cocks?
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 3:11PM
I suspect that is cost prohibitive for most productions.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 3:52PM
I am not aware of any other studio that has even tried this, so it's not common and probably very expensive.
Jacco
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 4:44PM
^ maybe thats because its a secret. who would risk ruining the experience for the viewer? just keep it a secret for as long as possible
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Feb 20 2016 : 8:34PM
Most studios seem incapable of seamlessly cutting out 3 minutes of a guy beating himself off to finish, I can't imagine they are somehow using cgi effects.
 
ninja1
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 4:01AM
^
JohnW
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 6:30AM
Too expensive, too complicated. Porn is not high budget at the moment and I doubt it will be any time soon.
I hate to sound like a technology pessimist but I think it will take a decade at the minimum before we get anything interesting developments in porn because of CGI. I would love to explore the possibilities and I think we eventually will but it we will be a lot older by then.
chessmaster
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 7:55AM
Like most others I don't see it happening anytime soon. But if/when it does become a thing that will be the day I stop buying new porn.
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 12:14PM
how can we know they aren't already doing it? maybe some of the first anals we got didn't actually happen? they were only CGI...
Edited by - kinguntermensch on 2/22/2016 4:59:10 PM
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 12:45PM
Did you even read this post?
Unless you have watched any of Falcon Studios movies that used CGI you probably haven't seen any.
pat362
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 12:45PM
^Although I think the technology may currently exist to create a fake scene like you are talking about. It's not something any porn studio can afford to pay for. Why would they want to when they can already book a real girl to do anal and it's going to cost them a lot less money than it will to pay a computer effect company to create a fake one. There is also the issue of cost of booking a performer. Will the studio shooting that fake anal scene have to pay the performer accordingly or will they only pay her for a standard vaginal only b/g scene but then add the fake anal and release the scene has being an anal scene instead?
As far as I know a performer's name is a registered trademark entity belonging to either the performer herself or someone else. Therefore any studio wishing to create a virtual likeness of the performer would need the approval of the owner of said entity and I can't see too many performer willing to do that without financial compensation.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 2:04PM
I've been in the pornbusiness for over 12 years and we are not very good at keeping secrets.
Jacco
chessmaster
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 3:33PM
I wouldn't worry about it. I don't see it taking off because unlike movies I don't think anybody(making an assumption) would watch CGI porn as opposed to real porn. Difference with CGI in movies is the CGI stuff is shit they can't actually do. Usually...although now it seems like they're using CGI just because, almost like CGI porn. There's really no point.
ninja1
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 4:15PM
Yeah I think there could be a place for CGI porn to create images/scenes which are humanly impossible. For example women or men with impossible endowments/proportions/skills/abilities. Or camera positions/angles which mortal cameramen cannot shoot. Or sex positions which real people cannot perform.
JohnW
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 4:18PM
I'm excited about the possibilities. We could get some fun, kinky, interesting, and mind blowing creative stuff. And of course extreme and problematic stuff as well.
 
pat362
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Posted - Feb 21 2016 : 7:52PM
^How much more extreme do you really think is necessary or even desirable when you can currently see Legal Porno shoot DAP and the odd TAP on a regular basis?
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 5:39AM
I would watch good quality CGI porn. At last we will see Golum assfucking Maz Kanata. Just kidding. I think it would be interesting to see porn mixed with fantasy. While I love rough anal sex, I'm a lot into the fantasy, the story, the teasing. That seems like an impossible combination right now from an economic POV, but I'd love that to be a trend or a feasible niche in the future.
Also, I think it's entirely possible to have completely CGI quality porn movies in the future. I would watch them.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 9:57AM
If you've watched hentai, you know the answer to this.
JohnW
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 4:57PM
I'm not saying its either. Maybe I wasn't clear but I'm worried about the problematic aspects at the same time as I'm excited about the possibilities.
And there's indeed some really weird animated porn already.. and I probably don't even know half of it.
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 5:12PM
I am excited about the future. CGI helped many movies, why not do the same for porn? But it has to look real, otherwise I am not that excited anymore.
pat362
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 6:08PM
You wouldn't by any chance be referring to tentacle sex?
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 6:17PM
^ Tentacle sex, bleeding vaginas, turds, you name it.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 6:42PM
Not sure how CGI has helped movies, if anything they're often worse due to over reliance on it.
lex von v
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 7:50PM
CGI helped movies showing things that weren’t possible before: alien landscapes and fantasy creatures, fixing up mistakes and deleting out safety harnesses etc.
But there’s a difference in having a realistic-looking drop-in background and and doing full-on CGI characters (or parts thereof. Removing condoms visually from an actor leaves you with a great amount of work (in order to make it look realistic). You’d have to either shoot it in a specialized studio to get all the movements as motion capture, or you need some match move artists that deduce the movements from the shot footage. You'd have to model both the male and the female actors because things are going to disappear either in orifices or behind limbs, so calculating what is visible and what is not has to be done. After that you model your 'hero' dick onto the actor, with the correct lighting, textures and coloring. This is not a job for one person, especially if you want it to look realistic. And that isn’t done in a few hours.
Typical movie CGI sequences are a few seconds short and take dedicated animators days if not weeks. Given that the complexity of a porn shoot is somewhat less overwhelming than a battle sequence of hundreds of space ships, it is still not doable within the money constraints of a typical gonzo shoot where you pay the crew and cast for a day, and later on the editor(s)—things you’d have to pay for anyway, but with the added cost of the animators. Mind you that movie making with all the CGI hasn’t helped making movies cheaper. And actor’s salaries are not the main issue here (simply think of the two new Avengers movies put together which will have a production budget of over one billion USD).
Doing completely CGI porn is another thing: a) you’d have to have it look realistic (a feat not really achieved in motion pictures yet, so how should that function in porn?), b) you'd have to animate it by hand, and this is where it really gets expensive. You’ll be paying 10-20 times the amount of people 10-2 hex (or significantly more) the time of a porn shoot to animate something you’d have to come up beforehand shot-by-shot (or you'd have to pay someone else to do it). And it would still look fake, because the technology isn’t there yet.
CharleyBoy
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Posted - Feb 22 2016 : 11:01PM
Obviously they can't cover up tattoos yet. Greg Lansky would be all over that, and I would not be complaining.



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