I just saw this Article at anabolic.com. What do you think about this? Honestly I find it a little disturbing, especially if its true that she'll need surgery. I'm sure it was an accident, but the tone of the article doesn't seem regretful. I also wonder about the mind set of some male performers while they're having sex. She's a very hot performer and I feel sorry for her that she got injured like this. What are your thoughts?
The actions of Tony T. and Anabolic/Diabolic video are to be applauded for sure. Tearing up some girls' asshole and putting her on the shelf until she can have surgery is to be commended.
I've enjoyed a lot of Anabolic's and Diabolic's stuff in the past so I won't disparage their name but if this is true, that is pretty sad. Obviously they are trying to make light of the situation but I hope they aren't seriously happy about injuring a performer like that. When people get pleasure out of causing others such pain, that crosses the line into absurdity.
But if it was a joke, and that didn't really happen, then no harm, no foul. Whatever floats their boat.
That's just Anabolic/Diabolic being themselves. They market towards jaded male fans who get their kicks by seeing women who they feel wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire getting what they deserve. That whole vibe seems to be getting more popular in gonzo these days. I hope the story isn't true, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was.
A reason more fore me not to buy anything from Anabolic or Diabolic. First destroying a girls asshole and then writing an article like this. Shame on you Ana/Diabolic!!!
I really have never gotten the appeal of anal & the abusive acts (choking, etc.) towards women. What is the fun in seeing someone in pain? All it does is guarantee more "Girls only" performers and/or shorter career stays. I hope the industry starts to change.
I think it's just their way of advertising the product and Tony T. is just stuck in there. I don't think he did this on purpose. Injuries happen on set but usually people don't go out and brag about it. Especially male performers are not proud of having hurt a girl in a scene. Most of them are very sorry when something like that happens and they are usually concerned about their reputation. Girls in the buisness talk a lot to each other and some female performer might refuse to work with a certain guy that they always hear bad things about.
Around the same time that this page appeared on the Diabolic website, the Anabolic website had a similar posting about "Shay LaMar's Beaten Bunghole." The article implied that Shay had sustained a similar injury while working with, and for, Tony T. Now, this is either just a really lame-brained strain of ad hype as was suggested earlier in this thread or Tony T needs to calm the fuck down while he's directing/performing and make sue he's not hurting his talent and ruining her future ability to earn.
Both those girls were relatively new (and also very hot) and I'd hate for word to get around the porno grapevine that the industry makes a habit of putting teenagers in adult diapers for the rest of their lives. It's already hard enough to get fresh young talent to take it up the ass -- think of how hard it will be if this kind of thing becomes a trend.
I won't say Tony T. is retarded, but I've always avoided buying movies were he has more than one scene, because he just comes across as a jerk. I'm glad Katja stopped in to respond and I respect her opinion, but I've rarely seen any female pornstars that will say anything negative about the guys in porn. I know it's natural to defend your co-workers especially in the porn business were they have a tight bond and refer to outsiders as civilians. Sometimes perception can be stronger than reality, and the things that Anabolic and guys like Tony T. do rub alot of people the wrong way.
I wrote the article on the site. It was meant more as an insight into a scene that won't make it to dvd because she couldn't handle the anal.Tony T.'s style is hardcore and she couldn't handle it. Therefore, the scene was canned and nobody was hurt. Chanel Chavez is a friend of mine and she WAS NOT injured during the set. I didn't mean for it to come off as egotistical. My Bad.
Depends who's talking. When I visited LA last summer, I heard a few "[NAME PORN STUD] ripped my asshole" comments. Seems to go with the turf, unfortunately.
IMO, producers have a responsibility to do our best to protect talent and provide a safe experience. There are so many accomplished artists (Katja, Bridgette, etc.) that there is no reason to to go full bore on inexperienced talent.
I like to produce (and view) provocative, edgy material that pushes the limit. But it should always be with talent that is enthusiastic and happy. I leave the mean stuff and tears to others. Not to judge whether it is right or wrong; it is simply a market I choose not to serve.
Hi Doron, thanks for responding. I don't read many of the releases from diabolic so I didn't know whether it was mean't to be a joke or not. Thanks for clarifying.
But alot of you pornfans out there should know that if you fuck a girl in the ass, shit happens.
It was probably more of an insight into the scene than anything else.
Not everything works when you shoot scenes. This isn't fantasyland, it's reality.
I believe the whole video is on the websites and I bet you'll find there no mean spirit on it at all. I haven't watched it nor do I have the time to.
If a girl can't do anal, after agreeing to do anal, I personally can the scene. It's the fans that want anal. After all, what does the pussy matter anymore when the girl has done a ton of anal scenes.
It's so easy to be moral when you're not on the set itself, isn't it?
Ahh, do any of you know what the word "acting" means?
The girls know in advance what they're gonna do on the set, and can just as easily walk away. It's all marketing hype, which is kinda fun if you think about it.
With everyone and their brother/sister doing oral/anal, they gotta find some advertising gimmick to attract the crowds. It's a movie for crying out loud! LOL
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Posted - Feb 24 2005 : 10:44PM
I found the article to be laced with flat humor.
I did however find the line 'Tony performs at a level that nobody else can reach and that puts him in a category of his own.' to be extremely funny. I can name at least 5 who perform twice as good as he could ever perform.
I can stand Tony in very short increments, but that's about it.
yeah but you're the one (i mean the director) getting paid for that work don't you? you guys can be like... more cautious when you do your advertisment.
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Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 3:40AM
I was sure it was nothing serious, but as you see Doron, a lot of us were not. I think there are better ways of saying that an anal scene was canned. Why write she was injured if in reality she was not? Please think about it next time you write your articles.
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Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 11:02AM
Well, I'm turned off by rough and/or abusive treatment of females. If a girl lkes to be hammered hard, or have her hair pulled, that's her choice.
But slamming a girl so hard that it's painful is way across the line of good taste.
If I were in a position to engage a cute little chica like Chanel in some nice carnal fun, I'd just look into those big brown Bambi eyes, and whisper "Now, tell Papi how you want it."
Well, it sounds like the overwhelming majority is opposed to a porn performer being abused or injured during a scene. Fine, I agree!
But, unlike the majority, I actually watched the canned scene as it is posted on the Diabolic website. Not only is Chanel Chavez not injured during the scene, but Tony T isn't slamming her or even being very rough. He never even gets his dick more than half way in Chanel's butthole and it is definitely not a hard driving, vicious, butt reaming. Hell, there wasn't even any gaping. It was just one of those days. Chanel looked like she was in discomfort from the start. But Tony wasn't abusive, physically or verbally. Chanel didn't look like she wanted to cry, but she did look like she would be glad to see the scene end. Everytime Chanel needed some respite from the pain, they stopped so she could do some ATM. Unfortunately the scene just wasn't working. If there was any abuse going on, it was definitely after the scene was stopped.
Tony is a really cool guy, I didn't exactly fall in love with him the first time I met him but he's alright. I know he likes my bj skills lol - there's nothing wrong with that. Some girls can take more than others. I personally never got hurt seriously during a scene but it doesn't mean I never will. I understand that the director cancelled the scene because the girl was not feeling comfortable doing it all the way through but I don't know if I like the article about it saying: "we are so hardcore, half of our female talent has to quit because they can't take it." Whatever... See that's why I want to fuck guys in the ass. This is what porn did to me. Every porn stud that ever got to do my ass - I want to fuck them right back...
I told Doron to tone down his writing. Anabolic/Diabolic is a company that only wants to attract positive attention.
I was there in the living room when the scene started and ended really quick. And afterwards, Chanel hung out and watched a movie with us. It was her decision.
I love Chanel, talk daily with her and love her dearly. Frankly, if you think you can blow out an asshole POV style, you're seriously mistaken.
She just couldn't handle it. After doing 3 anal scenes in a row, some girl's assholes need rest.
This whole thread is so blown out of proportion, it's ridiculous. The article will be rewritten by myself tomorrow.
Sounds good chico, I guess the whole thing was that the way the article was written confused many people as to what happened. Its good to see that you're correcting this. Thanks
I just rewrote the article to truly reflect what really happened and lectured the Minion about the improperness of hyperboles and exaggerations that does not reflect what Anabolic and Diabolic is about.
The tone of those brief set reports is nearly always cranked to 11 and pointedly outrageous. I just never take them too seriously. Usually, if someone really gets slammed on a set, the word gets around. I seriously doubt anyone wants to cause anyone else to lose work, because maybe they have a popular girl and what if she's too pissed to work with the same director or male talent again? It's bad business.
Porn is all about the hype, from the crazed sexual metaphors ("Lick your breakfast eggs off my fuck sausage, you craven mynx!") to the ridiculous titles that ripoff the previous 17 titles with ever more groaningly awful schoolyard puns to the mad egos involved -- it's not unlike pro wrestling, except the Rock doesn't let Tony T fuck him in the ass.
Chanel is piss-hot. I'd love to feed her Egg McmUffin off my rampaging man-gherkin.
Jeez -- I've barely had three glasses of wine and a burrito tonight ... Anyway, I'm glad to hear it confirmed that her tender bunghole is safe for democracy. She's a cutie.