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^ I agree, and have found that phrasing things differently can be helpful. "Rooted in racism" or "stemming from racist ideas" are more accurate descriptions. I don't think we can deny that these fantasies and fetishes are rooted in some pretty appalling history. That doesn't mean the fantasies themselves are appalling.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 1:28AM
Yeah it is to use a popular word these days rather 'problematic' as to what kind of terminology to use. There is a subtley to pornographic fantasy, taboos and reality that certain elements of the left and the majority of the right have difficulty handling. You can see the same issues in some feminist and left reactions to BDSM.
^^^ I'd personally lean more towards saying they're "rooted in stereotypes", or maybe even caricatures, than fully saying that they're rooted in any particular "ism". Those stereotypes can and usually do have problematic origins, though.
Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. 248 Posts 1/15
Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 12:22PM
Context and circumstances are very important for many of these terms. For example, if an Asian woman wants to call herself an "exotic girl," I can't imagine anyone taking issue with that. Looking at Mickey Mod's story for the article, I can also understand why he was upset when his scene was featured in "Black Man Stole My Daughter," without his permission. Edit: changed Mickey Mod's gender pronouns from "she" to "he" Edited by - LPee23 on 10/6/2016 12:55:41 PM
Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. 248 Posts 1/15
Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 12:56PM
Thanks for your correction. I am constantly amazed and humbled by how many performers there are to keep track of nowadays. Interestingly, the article gets through Mickey Mod's entire account without using "he" or "she" or referring to his gender, hence my wrong assumption.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 1:25PM
^^ and ^^^ It makes sense for porn performers to know the name of the movie that they're shooting for. This becomes more complicated in the case of compilations and scene titles, but if someone's going to asked to shoot for a dvd, they should be told the title first. Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/6/2016 1:25:49 PM
Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. 248 Posts 1/15
Posted - Oct 6 2016 : 4:52PM
It does make sense, but sometimes they do not or cannot know. This is especially true with websites and with content that will eventually be sold or licensed to a third party. A model might shoot a scene, and understand that it may be licensed non-exclusively to x number of companies, but she may not know or even care to later find out which companies those will be. For example, one time I talked with a famous model who was retired from porn but still escorting about some of her old scenes for a site that closed in 2006. Surprisingly, the name of the site wasn't even familiar to her anymore. I sent her some photos, and that jogged her memory, and she then recalled the name of the defunct production company that she shot for, but she never really got involved with the site at all. Basically just shot some scenes, took the money, and said do whatever you want with them to the producers. Anyway, I am digressing, but it is surprising that many models do not follow their content everywhere it is featured. It is particularly true with amateur/pro-am models and production companies that sell to other porn companies but not consumers.
As goodhearted as this campaign could be, there is a problem, is not only about the language, but you'll have to change some point of views also and that's isn't going to happen any time soon. Too many years doesn't give away easily.
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 12:18AM
^Does positive social change results in progressive sexual fantasies? It would seem that many of our sexual fantasies actually revolve around behavior that is socially regarded as immoral or unethical. Certainly, a lot of what we see in porn is actually contrary to our social values rather than in accord with them. We're not supposed to have sex with our bosses, or our stepfathers, or our husband's best friend.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 5:09AM
Good point. My point was that those wanting to make change could do so more effectively in places other than porn. I think the Left in general tend to obsess on cultural politics to the deteriment of more practical and concrete change.
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Posted - Oct 5 2016 : 6:08PM