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Posted - Jul 27 2008 : 10:33AM
Jeff, it is a promo piece - the URL of the site is at the beginning. Bornyo, it's not about what's on the video. It's about a director not sending someone home who's obviously fucked up. He had every intention of going through with the scene regardless of her state. I don't know the law, but it seems like anyone who signs a model release while clearly that out of their mind is not capable of entering into a contract. If the scene had actually happened there is no conscious consent.
Tells you how much I was paying attention, then. :) (Re-reviews video -- cripes! The damned thing was watermarked! I'll blame it on the YouTube watermark obscuring it :-)Fascinating notion...
I saw the video again. It's seem like Chasey didn't to an extra scene for swallowing cum for about about 500 dollars for one scene or am I wrong in what I say about Chasey didn't want to do an extra scene??
Back in the day, the clips of Chasey would be running rampant through the mainstream media. Today, it stays within the realm of porn. maybe that's good. One last thing on the director, the guy had his camera out just as she parked her car. He knew something was up. Classy move.
That's a pretty big stretch you're making there. That's like charging someone with bank robbery because they happened to be rolling tape when a heist took place across the street from them, or charging someone with accessory to murder because they happened to catch such a crime with their camera.
no, not a stretch at all. just listen to the video as she is emptying her car. He talks as if he been tipped off to her condition and wanted it all documented from the very start...
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Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 4:03PM
Thank you. I agree with you 100%. She needs a intervention. I would be glad to help and be there. I am 2 1/2 years clean and sober, I know what it is like to be out. I know she is somewhere in Vegas, and you have prompted me to find out where she is and try to do something about it. Everyone deserves a second chance, and a third and fourth, if that what it takes. To write her off a some fucked up porn star, because that's what happens to porn stars, is sad. I think many forget that these are people.
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Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 8:17PM
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Posted - Jul 28 2008 : 10:46PM
I'm sorry, but everyone complaining about this clip is full of it. Noone seems to have a problem with her being on drugs as long as she's taking a mouth full or doing a RCA. Hell, the minute she actually does a RCA, eveyone will be saying "it's about time, when's she going to be doing a black guy or DP?" But the minute she is shown on drugs not fucking, everyone has an issue. Where's the actual concern while she's fucking on drugs and not just stumbling around or whatever she's doing on the clip?
I would not be any more pleased with this "scene" if Chasey were having sex with someone and it was obvious that she was in this state of mind. In fact, it would be even more disturbing than it already is. I have not seen a porn movie in which a woman was (obviously) anywhere near as fucked up as Chasey was in these clips. My issue with this was that there was no doubt she was out of her mind and this guy appeared to be determined to shoot the scene with her like that. I wouldn't want to see any porn scene with a woman so obviously out of it being fucked or anything else of a sexual nature. As I said, most scenes are not like that. Even if a girl has a drug problem, if she seems reasonably aware and coherent, at least she's capable of giving consent.
Good for you! Seriously, it's time to rally the troops, folks! Chasey needs help and I implore anyone in the industry or out who knew or knows Chasey to follow Howard's lead (aka hollywood woody) and step up. Help this woman if you can.
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 3:02PM
Random, your last line proves my point exactly. You have no problem with her fucking on drugs, but as soon as she's not fucking and may or may not be a little more high, you have an issue with it. How come noone here is calling for mandatory drug testing of all performers before they do a scene? Everyone shows concern for the performers when there is a scare, IE: the HIV scare a few years ago, but the minute the scare fades it's back to business as usual. If everyone was truly concerned about Chasey, they wouldn't shoot her at all until she got clean, but the truth of the matter would be, if she was clean, she probably wouldn't be doing porn.
Knuckle Kids - You apparently read only what you wanted to read. She wasn't fucking in this scene because she barely even knew where she was. Meth (if that is what it was) is a horrible drug. It completely destroys people. I am aware that some porn girls use it but I don't know who they are and I would hope there are more people like Howard in the industry who would actually try to help if they could. At the end of the day, I'm not going to sit here and try and guess if the girl does drugs or not if it isn't obvious. I believe your assumption that only someone who does drugs would do porn is wrong. While the industry probably is more open to people who do drugs, it's pretty much open to anyone who's legal and willing to do the work. I wouldn't be opposed to drug testing in the industry. It would probably be a good thing in the long run. I'm not opposed to all drugs. Weed, for example. But I understand why it would be better if the industry didn't encourage it. I would be fine with porn with fewer girls. Your characterization of all porn fans as wanton animals with no concern for the women is off base and you'd know that if you spent much time reading here. Or maybe you have but like so many, you see what you want to see. I am concerned about the women but I also think personal responsibility has to kick in somewhere. We wouldn't have anything in this country if we treated everybody like babies and assumed no woman would do porn of her own volition, for example. The issue here is this woman clearly needs help. It only takes a human being to watch that clip and see that. That is not what I see in most porn scenes. Even if she was doing a scene, it would be obvious. It's not a matter of whether she's fucking or not. I'm not pissed off because she didn't do the scene. I'm glad she didn't.
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 5:10PM
No, I clearly read all the posts, I'm just replying to the parts that go with my argument, that everyone acts all concerned about her because she is shown on drugs while not fucking, but noone gives a rat's ass if she was on drugs to get through a double i/r anal or whatever is the freak show act of the day. Drugs are drugs, no matter what they are used for and how. Porn is littered with victims of drug abuse, whether they got into porn to support their habit, or developed a habit to do porn. The minute someone develops a public drug habit in porn and leaves to get her life back together, everyone wishes her a speedy recover and best wishes. The minute she returns, everyone wants her to be doing a Feeding Frenzy, without taking into consideration what led to her return to porn in the 1st place, ie money troubles or drug problems, or what's it taking to get her to do the Frenzy in the 1st place. They really don't care, they just want new and more hardcore masturbatory (sp) material. As far it being acceptable for porn performers to be doing a little weed, by that logic, would it be okay for a pilot to be on a little weed, or the surgeon to be on a little weed as long as they are coherent. I think not. Lives are at stake in all situations. (arguements of condoms could be inserted here) To quote Mr. Mackey, "Drugs are bad! MMMMkay." That's all I'm saying, so if everyone is up in arms about the clip showing her doing whatever, they should be equally up in arms about her doing porn in general.
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 5:53PM
There is a couple of things I think you don't really understand. #1 It doesn't matter if she is having sex and is fucked up or if she is just fucked up, the concern is she is having a real problem. You are saying RP is only saying something because she is not having sex, I think he is saying something because he is alarmed at how deep she is in. #2 You could drug test the performers, but the problem is that a lot would not pass. It is ok, I guess, to have a drink before you do a scene to loosen up if you have to, but that is way different from being an addict. Chasey is an addict. I know a lot of girls in the business that are clean and sober. Morgan dayne doesn't smoke, drink, snort anything and never has. #3 you say if she was clean she probably wouldn't be doing porn, which implies that everyone who does porn is fucked up, that is a misnomer. I have not seen this clip, nor do I intend to see it. Chasey is a person who really needs help, just like any other addict who is suffering. I choose to help if I can than just sit idlly by waiting for the news another porn star is dead.
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 : 6:02PM
I talked to Chasey and all i can say is she is not ready for any help. The word denial comes to mind. I asked her point blank if I could do something to help her and she said she is doing great and doesn't have a drug problem. I understand. I left her my number and told her she can always call me. Someone else in this thread mentioned if someone doesn't want help, they will not get help, they are correct. All I can do is reach out, I did that, I called, she answered, I offered , she refused. I will wait for one of two calls, either she calls me, or someone else does with the sad news.
Yo Hollywood Woody, you are a good man. I wish I could reach out to here, even though I have never met her. Three of my all time favorites are Chasey, Sky Lopez and Devon - Yea, I sure know how to pick'em. Can you give us any details on what Chasey said. Had she seen the clips? Does she know she is the center of a porn controversy and the blogging is all about her right now? Did she really deny a problem?
I think I see what you're saying. You think my issue is that the drugs are keeping her from doing porn and that's the only reason I care. You're just wrong. To be honest with you, I've never seen a single porn scene (except for these clips) with Chasey in it to my knowledge. I'm not a Chasey fan boy. My concern is not her porn career. I'm concerned about her as a person. She just happens to be a porn girl. As a porn fan, I think I have a responsibility to say something when I see something that just isn't right. That's it.
Howard. It's well known that someone who has a serious drug problem will typically be in denial or even if they know it, won't admit it and won't ask for help. Does she have any family you know of that you could get in touch with? Surely something can be done.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 1:46PM
I read each and every post before commenting. My point is and continues to be, why all of the fake concern all of a sudden? Nooone cares about a porn girl while she shooting porn and on drugs. The minute she is show in a less than favorable light, eveyone all of a sudden wants to do an intervention, contact the family etc, etc, etc,. If everyone was truly concerned about her, they would have brought thier concern about her overall wellbeing to the table the minute she actually started doing porn and started running around with unsavory characters. And please save the comments about porn being filled with upstanding citizens, as there are several threads on this site about shady characters, IE the guy that rips off Brandon Iron, the guy that hires Marc Wallace, all references to boyfriend/manaagers/suitcase pimps etc etc. Granted I'm sure there are some reputable people in porn as there is exceptions to every rule, so I don't need a list of them thrown back at me. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict another future drug abuse issue, and everyone will all of sudden show concern, but why not now? I caught The Animal last night and at the very end of it, they show a close up of the star Chelsie Rae. Her pupils are dilated as big as basketballs, indicating some mood enhancer. Not saying she is on drugs for sure, but have had 2 brothers as drug addicts, I know the signs.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 1:58PM
And given the extreme nature of most of Chelsie's work (I'm a big fan), and the fact that her "fiance" is always right there, leering over her, I'm sure she needs a boost to complete her scenes. What happens when her services are no longer required, as we only need to see her do a few gokkun/bukkakes, although, I would like to see her do a 100 guy anal creampie gokkun, is she just going to walk away, and stop doing whatever helped her get through her scenes? Or is she going to be addicted and started hitting the streets or escorting to support the habit? Shouldn't we be showing concern for her now and encourage her to dump the "fiance"? Or do we wait until she bottoms out. And I agree with the above post that says that as long as Chasey is in denial there is no helping her, and no intervention is going to help until she wants the help. Until that time, everyone is just spinning their wheels.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 2:23PM
^^^ If more videos (like the Chasey ones) of other performers surface I'm sure you'll get to see lots more "fake concern" from the rabble. Till then Chasey is receiving all the "fake concern" because we've all seen upsetting footage of her. EDIT: Also, all I am capable of giving her is my "fake concern" we don't live in the same country or know each other personally or peripherally. How do you want posters from around the globe on an internet message board to react? If it were where I live and someone I cared about had reached this state I would call the cops tell them I had a suicidal friend and I didn't know what to do. My friend would then be visited by the police and if they behaved like Chasey does in those vids they would be the guest of the local psychiatric facility for the next 72 hours whether they like it or not. Submit to the might of involuntary commitment. My friend would possibly go through a painful detox in that time but there would be 24 hour medical care to see the through. After their involuntary time is over and they can think with a sober mind I would apologize for calling the cops and express my fears... Pretty much what hollywood woody described except my version involve talking to someone who hasn't had any drugs in 3 days. But unless you send her to Canada and make her become my friend all I can offer is my "fake concern".
Edited by - conquistador on 7/30/2008 5:06:39 PM
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 2:36PM
Nothing that I've read here regarding her apparent addictions smacks of insincerity. The connection with her is mostly through her porn career, but that doesn't mean that people here don't feel sadness as the would for anyone in her situation.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 5:17PM
She wanted to talk to me about someone who owes her money, I told her that's not why I'm calling. I told her I'm calling because there is this awful clip of you on the sites which made you look really bad, she said she was aware of that, I asked her if she needed any help. Chasey said yes I could help, find the guy who put that up and break his legs. I tried for 15 minutes to ask her if she needed help with her drug problem, she said no. She also asked me if I had anything for her to shot. I said no. After a half hour of incoherent babbling, I left her my number and told her to call me when she is ready. I explained how I am 2 1/2 years clean and sober and she was surprised to hear I ever had a problem. I guess everyone has a different bottom, the thing that is the same is that we all reach it sooner or later. I post this info because I know there are people who care on this site. If you ever see her you should tell her that you will never buy another movie of hers until she gets help.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 5:35PM
Whoa boy. I don't think there is any sudden or fake concern to begin with. If people weren't genuinely concerned why would they even say something? Who are you to say whether it is real or not real? How would you know that? She started doing porn 13 years ago and she was fine. You are saying doing porn makes you something less and automatically puts you in the company of bad people. That is just flat out a moronic statement. Just FYI, Chasey was a contract star with the top company in the business and treated like a queen, she was well paid and was a sweetheart. She would work her ass of at the shows and talk to everyone who came up for an autograph. Most of the people in the adult business are people I've had over my house, had dinner with, been to my kids birthday partieds when they were young and are great people, your generalization is insulting and since you never hung out with us or don't know us is presumptious and unwarrented. There are shady people in every profession, doctors , lawyers, teachers, retail etc., yet they are the minority, which is the same in adult. Everyone I know pays their taxes, has kids, and is just like everyone else in business. To put yourself somehow above the rest of us is kind of dreamlike, on your part. I'm sure your shit stinks too. If your have two people in your family that have an addiction problem, you should be ashamed of your idiotic posts. You need to take a long look in the mirror.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 6:32PM
She was probably the best looking girl in the business. I have to say that I take a personal affront to knuckles post. I think all of the people who posted here trying to help or showing their concern should add a couple of points in their good karma dept. It is great to see that you guys care about someone who has touched your lives in some small way. Forget she is a porno star, she is a person. I feel bad for the kid from Indiana Jones, Shia, who is also going to end up in a bad way, I never liked Britany Spears music, but i was sorry to see she was destoying herself. Lindsey Lohan, same thing, although i kind of liked her movies, ok , i liked looking at her, the movies sucked. I hate to sound like kreskin, but I know what happens next.
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 : 8:27PM
That would help mankind in general. I would also be curious to find out if Donny could find as good of a customizing job for his wheelchair as he has for his current wheels.
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 3:59PM
Woody, Please save it, will you. Maybe Chasey was a "hard worker" then, but I really won't bother going into how hard it is to do porn as a female and attend tradeshows to sign autographs. Don't try to tell me otherwise as every porn interview shot, the girl always is saying how fun and wonderful porn is. Unless they are lying or course. I've also been to several porn shoots and so I know the only ones working hard are the management staff and crew. I've also been to porn tradeshows, yes they are long, but it's not overly difficult to sit on a chair for a few hours at a clip. Since you obviously didn't read my my post about Chelsie's pupils being as dialated as big as basketballs when I mentioned the possibility of he being on something, and how I did mention that I'm aware that there are exceptions to every rule, for you to say my posts are moronic because I'm pointing out potential signs of drug use is just ignorant on your part. I never claimed to better than anyone else, unlike yourself. But since you are acting that way,I have only one question for you. Since porn is such a fine upstanding industry for girls to be in, when your kids turn 18 are you going to rush them in front of the camera for a blow bang shoot, or are you going to send them over to Max Hardcore for an anal workout? Oh wait, that's right he's under indictment for obscenity charges, guess porn is that upstanding afterall. A simple yes or no and short explanation would suffice.
Knuckles, all most of us are hoping for is a little compassion for a person who has made a lot of bad mistakes and is in need of some help. Is showing a little compassion really that out of line?
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 7:22PM
You're right, showing compassion is not a bad thing. However, I show compassion for people who truly deserve and need it. Several people on this site, including Woody have offered her help to get clean. By all accounts, Chasey has insisted she doesn't have a problem. Instead, they get requests for helping to break someone's legs, money for drugs, and drugs themselves. It's hard to feel compassion for someone like that. Having been lied to, stolen from, and having been beaten up because of two alcoholic/drug addict brothers, I have little tolerance for weak willed individuals who let things such as drugs control their actions. It's mind over matter.
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 8:29PM
Knuckle Kids It appears that you carry some baggage regarding drug users in your family. It is hard to avoid, in those circumstances. But addictions like Chasey has, along with your brothers, is a disease. I hope your brothers find someone that cares.
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 9:03PM
If addicts could just will their addictions away they would. Nobody wills to be a drug addict or alcoholic.
So are you saying the addict carries no personal responsibility for their actions or behaviour? Fucking unbelievable. It IS a choice. You can choose to be addicted or you can choose to get help but make no mistake, you do have a choice.
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 9:33PM
I agree with you Bornyo, just saying one cannot just will an addiction away, it hasn't got anything to do with being "weak willed". A person can choose to seek help, but choosing to get addiction help doesn't (by most modern thinking on the subject) mean they have willed their drug addiction away. I have seen sober addicts referred to as being in a state of "arrested addiction". Weak willed doesn't even touch on the physical aspects. Alcohol withdrawal has been known to kill people without some outside help. @Knuckle Kids: If I am drinking heavily then stop can I just will myself not to have any seizures when I am detoxing? Edited by - conquistador on 7/31/2008 9:37:33 PM
Ok, I understand what you are saying now. That's like someone in AA saying they are an alcoholic even after years of sobriety. The addiction may not leave you, but will and choice are the only ways to break the addiction, and it can be done.
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Posted - Jul 31 2008 : 9:39PM
Exactly, one makes it a priority to be sober and not intoxicated. But one cannot will an addiction away. Edited by - conquistador on 7/31/2008 9:45:51 PM
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Posted - Aug 1 2008 : 1:24PM
I love how you have made this personal now asking about my family. My daughter is 18 and I'm not going to do anything, it is her life not mine. I have raised her to make her own decisions and what path she will take. She is by the way a 3.5 student, who doesn't do or has never tried drugs, and is attending college. You are assuming, is what you are doing, you have no proof, and continue to sling shit. I read you posts. I got it, you are an expert on addiction. Your comments about who is and who is not working hard are beyond moronic, you are talking out of your ass, you know nothing, judging from your comments. You have know idea how hard doing a trade show is because you have never done one. When you have sat there for 4 to 6 hours signing and smiling let me know. Please show me one post I have ever written that I say I am better than anyone else. I will pay you $1000 if you can. You seem to enjoy pushing people down so you can appear bigger. If you think porn is so bad, why are you even on these boards? Why do you buy porn? You have stated several times that this is a dirty business, why are you even here? knuckle wrote: for you to say my posts are moronic because I'm pointing out potential signs of drug use is just ignorant on your part. What is ignorant is you pointing out signs of drug abuse. Everyone else here seems to disagree with you, so I guess everyone else is wrong and you are right. you save it, try taking a compassion pill.
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Posted - Aug 1 2008 : 1:34PM
Dude you need some help. Go to alanon, find out what addiction really is. I mean that with all sincerity. You have total misconceptions about addiction and addicts. It has nothing to do with someones will. I am powerless over drugs, I got help, i go to meetings, I am of service to other addicts and pray for those that are still suffering. My being clean and sober for 2 1/2 years has nothing to do with mind over matter.
Getting back to ideas about helping Chasey... There is a show on the Arts and Entertainment channel called "Intervention" which is relevant to this thread. The show features people who are addicted to anything from alcohol, prescription medication, heroin, gambling, bulemia, etc., The subject of each show is told they are to be featured in a documentary about addiction but what is really happening is that their family and friends are positioning them for an intervention led by a professional. The goal is to get the subject to a treatment facility THAT DAY (usually across the country). Ultimately, the subject is led into a room where the intervention is to take place. The family and friends have already prepared statements to the subject ("how much they love them but the are not the person they used to know"....). They ask the person if they will please accept the gift that is being offered to them (the stay at the treatment facility). If they say no, the family and friends tell the subject what they will no longer do (lend money, allow them to visit, allow them to live there, no phone contact, etc.,). At the end, the subject either accepts the help or doesn't. Even if they do, many do not finish their time at the treatment facility and go right back to their addiction. Addiction is a bitch! The important thing to remember is that nobody chooses to be a crack whore. I know a guy who lost his house, boat and profitable business to a Casino in Atlantic City - his wife left and took the kids. Nobody wants their body image to be so distorted that they view 68 pounds as being too fat - Hell, my foot weighs 68 pounds! Nobody lists "stealing so I can support my $200 a day habit" as their life goal. People who are addicts need help of those closest to them, even if they are estranged. Family, friends, even former friends, co-workers, etc., need to do something to help. The bottom line is that Howard may be right in that Chasey is not ready for help. If she is denying there is a problem when it seems so obvious, then all we can do is pray and hope for the best. However, if Chasey has people in her life that are close to her and would like to try, with the help of professionals, to attempt an intervention, I suggest that either try the A&E option (ttp://www.aetv.com/intervention) or try a local intervention option. Like Howard, I would hate to read the news that Chasey was found dead... She is too damn young!
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Posted - Aug 1 2008 : 2:06PM
Woody; After learning a little bit about where Knuckle Kids is coming from, I can understand his resentment. As I'm sure that you know gravely ill family members, whether it is from cancer, drug addiction or something else, is a terrible drain on the family emotionally, especially for siblings.
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Posted - Jul 27 2008 : 10:12AM
My sentiments exactly, 'Six.
