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BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 22 2016 : 1:47PM
As we know accurate numbers for rates are hard to nail down but it seems pretty well established that a top female performer today can be paid $1000-1200 for a b/g.
At the beginning of porn in the late 60s and early 70s often performers were paid $75-100 or $150 for the woman performers to do a loop. Rates for features seem less predictable during this time but $100 a day seems most common.
But by the late 70s and early 80s when budgets were bigger than they ever would be again, sometimes in the 6 figure range, it seems that $1000 became the standard for top performers in the top pictures.
Once the VHS and gonzo era hit it seems that rates, despite inflation, have stayed the same for decades (!) at around $1000 per scene.
Does this make sense? Are some classic era performers exaggerating their rates or did the pay for gonzo and all-sex really stay so low for so long?
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Posted - Mar 22 2016 : 2:01PM
I think some were exaggerating their rates. IIRC Bob Chinn talked about the first Johnny Wadd and that performers typically got $50 a day then (with Holmes managing to get $75 a day for that film). I doubt they jumped that fast to $1,000.
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Posted - Mar 22 2016 : 5:32PM
Yeah I remember that, everyone mentions the $100 standard during the loops and one-day-wonders.
Any reliable sources on what people were being paid by the late 70s? Some of the films were shot in 4-6 long days so they had to be paid better to work those long days.
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Posted - Mar 23 2016 : 9:10AM
If I remember correctly, Georgina Spelvin says she got $200 a day for DIMJ plus $25 for doing the catering. This was in 1972 and recounted in her autobiography, THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT. She also notes that Annette Haven was the first to insist on higher rates, but I can't remember how much Haven asked for.
Traci Lords is the next person I know of who bumped up the asking price. In the documentary X-RATED AMBITION: THE TRACI LORDS STORY, a producer notes that they would have paid Lords whatever she wanted. She demanded $1000. That was in 1984.
Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 3/23/2016 9:11:00 AM
zanders59
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Posted - Mar 23 2016 : 2:55PM
Back then they were paid a flat fee per day for everything (dialog, sex, still photos during production, ect) and not for particular sex acts like today. Some of the bigger productions could film for several days.
I have an issue of Video-X magazine (March 1984) that had the reported salaries of some of the highest paid female stars at the time. They were as followed:
Vanessa Del Rio: $2000 a day for her last film (at that time)
Marlene Willoughby: $1000 a day
Marilyn Chambers: $2000+ a day plus a percentage of the profits
Kelly Nichols: $1200 a day
I'm sure other stars from that era like Seka, Annette Haven, Veronica Hart, Samantha Fox, Lisa De Leeuw made comparable salaries as well.
Colleen Brennan said she made $800 a day in her Rialto Report interview.
Over at the Distribpix facebook page they posted a document that said Jennifer Welles got $10,000 for the 11 days of filming Inside Jennifer Welles.
According to the liner notes of Deep Inside Annie Sprinkle, Annie got $10,000 well. Other performers in the movie got $250 a day.
John Leslie was said to have been one of highest paid male stars back then.
Edited by - zanders59 on 3/23/2016 3:54:10 PM
 
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 23 2016 : 4:28PM
Great stuff thanks. Makes sense to pay that rate per day, so very different from today where it is per act. Back when gonzo was humming a performer could do multiple shoots in a day as well.
Still it feels with inflation that rates for performers didn't keep up. No doubt because despite all the talk about the 'billon dollar' industry porn was the profit margins for everyone became much smaller in the gonzo era.
There was a Forbes article years ago that found during the height of the DVD boom Stagliano was taking home $1 million a year. Not chump change but not near the kind of money that Reuben Sturman was making in his era.
I've read (probably in the Eric Schaeffer essay on the industry) that Adam & Eve was one of the most successful companies out there on the basis of their mail-order sex toys. Makes sense too. I wonder how they're doing now? My guess is a lot better than many others.
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Posted - Mar 23 2016 : 5:16PM
^ Considering that almost every podcast I have listened to, including big-hitters like WTF, have Adam & Eve as a sponsor, I'd say they're doing pretty well.



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