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shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 12 2003 : 2:08AM
Here in Moscow we have beautiful and willing girls, cheap cameramen, plenty of studios not in use or not booked much, good mainstream directors, an excellent film history and a public thirsting so much for porn, but all we get usually is lame amateur porn not even comparable with the cheapest US-produced gonzo, not even mentioning RLD and such high class gonzo companies.

In Budapest they have beautiful and willing girls, cheap cameramen, plenty of studios actually producing porn, but all they get is internet-links to US or Amsterdam based mailoder companies where the can order those nice Hungarian girls fucked by big dicked Hungarian studs. And wait and hope that post deliveres tapes.

US-companies produce world class porn with our girls, US-companies distribute it back home. We provide them with raw-material only. And dont even get end product in our shelfs.

(And if we ask about distribution we dont even get an answer...)

I dont blame Americans. It is self-inflicted porn dependancy. Self-inflicted neo colonialism. Without US-porn companies we would not even be able to enjoy our girls doing porn!

We have most beautiful and willing girl, but...why are we so impotent?!

Edited by - Shameless on Oct 13 2003

skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 12 2003 : 2:20AM
I ask myself the same question so many times, Shameless!

Perhaps more exercise and an extra dose of Vitamin E is a good idea.

Edited by - skronker on 3/12/2003 2:33:34 AM

shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 2:38AM
We Russians must at least learn from the Czechs. I have recently seen so many homepages dedicated to their porn girls. They do them themselfs, the homepages are high quality, easy to use and porn producer customer friendly: Nice photos, acts she does, often with prices for each act.

I also seen some Czech self-produced porn on sites. Girls are presented well there, too. Dont know about lighting and such stuff, but girls are neatly shaven, made up nicely etc. on dvd-covers.

Nice and willing girls certainly dont lack here. Russians can make good homepages, too. But many deal with fucking politics. Russians must start think more with their dicks. No politics needed, but we need our own porn!

Edited by - Shameless on 3/24/2003 2:39:22 AM

DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 7:56AM
shameless,

You keep asking questions about why Russian girls are not used more, why porn is not produced more in Russia, why other countries don't come to Russia and do more things.

I am not that familiar with Russian laws, rules, or regulations, but I suspect that you could answer the question better than most of us since you live there.

I would also suspect that if it is very difficult to get into your country, especially if the purpose is to make porn, would probably run into all sorts of government regulations, that then would be part of the reason that not many companies go there.

As far as the marketing of porn in your country, once again I suspect that you could provide a better answer than we can. There probably are rules, regulations, and restrictions that you have that make it less than desirable to easily set up and do business.

DenverDon

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 8:26AM
Shameless.
You've obviously got a bit of money, an interest in porn and know plenty of willing girls (for the right price). I reckon the time has come for you to set the Russian porn industry in motion - you are that man!
 
shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 9:54AM
You speak of may dream, Sir Noel!

Problems are frankly speaking I dont know nothing about filming. And I dont want to produce condom-porn. Girls are willing and cheap and I know a lot that would be interested in doing porn, but problem might be big with reliable HIV- ans STD-tests. Everything here is corrupt, so any girl can buy any medical attest.

DenverDon: sure you right,I know probabely best, because sadly I am only Russian porn fan posting here. I think my posts about this are born from frustration. I meet so beautiful girl in real life to fuck, some look at my porn collection and say:
, and I have no answer!

State regulation is no problem here. With money you can get everything. Buy every court,every policeman. Only capitalism rules!

Only hope at moment is seemingly Ukrainian lobby in Budapest. Sbando Boy has so many Ukrainian girls in index! Ukrainian and Russian girls are basically same (maybe Ukr. girls are a bit cheaper because even worse economy).

carioca
Member

401 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 9:49PM
Pierre Woodman seems that it is the only whom knows how to explore this gold mine that are the girls of the old Soviet union. As it detaches shameless, they are beautiful, and they are among my favorites , like Angelina Sweet, Blondie, Inna, Nataly, Joy Kiss, Lolita, Inga, Aliza. Unhappily they worked so scant and only with him.
balabala
Member

968 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 10:09PM
Carioca!

How could you forgot to mention the lovely Julia!
I'm still wondering if she has done any other movies beside that scene from Woodman Casting X 37. I'm starting to loose hope, she has not been spotted in any of Woodman's work since he joined Hustler...

Edited by - balabala on 3/27/2003 12:22:18 PM

SueR
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Under a hill of books
262 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 24 2003 : 10:23PM
ok. did shameless just say "sho you right"? And I thought a Black Russian was just a drink.
carioca
Member

401 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 25 2003 : 2:29PM
Oh! yes JULIA!. But in my list they are related the that already stopped , and hopefully Julia will make many movies.
I have been noticing what are made few reviews of Pierre's movies by Hustler, with exception of den's site I didn't see any review of Arsenic #1 and #2 that were already thrown there is some time. I think Pierre this losing their fans or then they are lazy.
Could anybody revise Hustler xxx #18 please and to tell me if LUCKY is it so wonderful as it seems to be?
shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 25 2003 : 6:58PM
(Posted twice)

Edited by - Shameless on 3/25/2003 7:13:19 PM

shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 25 2003 : 7:11PM
shameless wrote:
Privates old Pierre did a great job here in Russia. If you understand all they speak (and sometimes not translate!) in his casting sessions, you really wonder what this man did to make of such shy, un-experienced thing like Joy Kiss such a superhot sex-animal you can watch in <Gigolo> etc. He probabely had magicians powers (or a devils pact!)

Now in 2003 year, however, there is other generation of girls in Russia. Young people experiment much more and much earlier. Nowadays in place like Moscow I cannot immagine girl looking at Private mag like in those interviews in Private Casting series, and not knowing what is all about!
Many teens watch some sort of hardcore pornos, girls too.

Also most (not all!) escort girls I fucked are doing this job for money, sure, but also because they like sex. I only want say, job for second Woodman-guy today would not be convincing <near/virgins> to do hardcore porn, but giving lots of very open and ambitious young women a chance to act out phantasies in safe place. And to finally earn some good money.

I dont know how new generation of Russian porn girls would be on porn-film like. If Joy Kiss turned into such sex-animal in Pierres hand, so maybe my last night escort Natalia would turn into ultra-turbo-dirty anal slut (porn language, not putting her down!) doing things maybe (?) only Skeeter Kerkove can think about today.
I have feeling that Belladonna taking all those ass-plus, ass-fucking with baseball stick and doing all thouse double things, is not end of story. I see (and do) lots of things in underground clubs...this society here has lived too long with no freedom. Sometimes it seems our girls are like lions in cages. If somebody lets them out...

Future will tell... (but I sure would like help such Pierre Woodman out here.
Its only dream I know. Not dream I can fullfill renting escort girl for cum-shot contest. Well...tomorrow I have to work more and translate between brother and Italian businessman...so is reality)

Edited to make more easy to read because is long

Edited by - Shameless on 3/26/2003 9:52:26 AM

aybesea
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Posted - Mar 26 2003 : 11:29AM
If I'm not mistaken, Frank Thring did quite a few shoots in Russia as well.
carioca
Member

401 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 28 2003 : 2:06AM
In the credits of the movies of P. woodman appear writing the name of an agency, RED ANGELS in Moscow, do you know, shameless?
Maybe you can take the girls that you knows there, who knows until needs of a translator, whose function was made formerly by Tania Russof, it Already imagined in the final credits of a casting x movie to see writing:
translator (Russian) Sergej Shameless.
shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 28 2003 : 3:44AM
Thanks for this idea, Carioca!
This makes my day great and exciting (after other power supply cut just this morning - shit now building outskirt I live in)
Agencies come and go here, but I sure try all to find Red Angel.

You sure P.Woodman filmed in Moscow, not St. Peterburg, Kaliningrad, Ekaterinburg or so back in 1992 year etc, yes?

 
carioca
Member

401 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 30 2003 : 10:01AM
The interview with the Russian Julia was accomplished in January of 2001 in Moscow and her says that lives in the city, the translation was made by a Russian guy . Except it castings x series of Private, I don't have access to the most recent videos of P woodman for Hustler and I don't know for that if he continues working with the Red angels Agency.
2Big
Member

200 Posts
4/03
Posted - Apr 8 2003 : 12:54PM
Sergej:

I hear ya and feel ya. I am a great admirer of beautiful Russian women; have had the pleasure of doing one myself (alas and sadly she was married - and not to me), so I would be an eager customer of any and all dvds you would produce.

Good ones, that is; and therein lies the rub: much of the stuff that I have seen from Russia done by Russians had an amateurish feel to it. This, obviously, needs to change. Are you the right man for this job?

You'll need girls, guys who can keep it up, a cameraman, an editor, a sound guy, and plenty of investors. The latter shouldn't be so hard to find. Then you need a production company and, importantly, a tape duplication service. It doesn't make sense to produce porn if you can't fill orders. And let me assure you, Sergej, nothing pisses an online customer off more than the constant "backordered" e-mails.

I'm sure there is a solution to the STD/HIV problem: for example, one of your associates could accompany the girl as she goes for her tests.

Good luck and keep us posted.

I am looking forward to seeing a Russian version of the "Blowjob Adventures of Dr. Fellatio"

2Big

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Posted - Apr 8 2003 : 2:18PM
At least in America we get porn from one Russian company that I know of, Brave. I would assume that you could get their stuff in RUssia as well.
shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 12:40PM
Dear all,
thank you for all your support this spring. Now its bitter cold here again, but my brother just talked me into trying to make a leap forward into good Russian porn.

Yesterday with some girls and champaign we founded our own production company: Shameless&Shameless Video Production, Moscow

Certainly having our own cheap girls ready at hand helped a lot. But without your support (here and in other treads) and that of my brother Igor, I would never have done it.

Just changed the title to <(Putting an end to) self-inflicted porn neo-colonialism!>, Moscow 13th Oct 2003, Juri Sergej Pornov aka Shameless

Edited by - Shameless on 10/13/2003 12:43:39 PM

Keeper_k
Member

Russia
26 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 14 2003 : 7:35PM
First of all, I'd like to share the great news. NTV+, the biggest pay tv satellite provider in Russia started to broadcast real porn last week. They showed a Private Gold title with lots of facials, DP on their “Night Channel”. Before that, we could only see old softcore porn.

NTV+ is controlled and owned by Gasprom (the national gas company) and Gaspom itself is controlled by the government. We still have a law forbidding the “illegal spread of pornography”. But what really matters in Russia is not the law, but the so-called practice. The government clearly stated its position on the matter. From now on porn is allowed in Russia.

I would like to address the porn producers. Just don’t miss the chance! The market is enormous.

I tried to find the other day some Newsensations, RLD, Evolution Erotica, JK titles in the RU zone - none whatsoever!

Private is making the first steps.

As for Vivid... Well, they always come uninvited. In a blink of an eye they will flood the market.

shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 15 2003 : 4:19AM
Fully agree! I write about Russians HUNGER for good porn for months here. But still there I can see not even steps towards distribution of the most important companies in the Valley.
As for Private: I already get their dvds on the blackmarket for well over a year. It seems that they are just offically and in original package available now. Their homepage, however, I hope to be an SOS-call for anybody ever remotedly having thought about conquerring a market potential as large as the US itself (when finally Russians have enough money).
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