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dumblonde
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Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:04PM
While one of my favorite topics is being discussed in another thread, this is another one that is dear to my heart.

Now, I realize that it's probably even more difficult to capture this on camera, and I'm not even asking for real ones, but why is it that it (along with kissing and talking) just doesn't seem to be important in porn? It's very important to Guys I've Slept With, so why not in porn?

I don't mean the kind where the chick is yelling her dang head off from start to finish either...

Hardware All-Star Supporter
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3/02
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:10PM
Are you asking the producers or consumers? Because, if you're asking the consumers my answer is that I'd love to see more women having orgasms. You're correct in assuming that I haven't demanded it anywhere, but that doesn't mean I don't love it when I see it. I just don't really expect it in the context of most porn I've watched.
Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
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Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:16PM
When Mike Lyons and I met with Mason last December, we all discussed porn likes and dislikes. She was surprised when we both told her that we had trouble enjoying a scene if the women in it didn't seem to be having fun. To me, that is enough, I know it can be tough sometimes for even the guys to cum under porn circumstances. I want to women to at least seem interested and involved. It is well known that many women can't orgasm simply from intercourse, and a recent trend for Toni Ribas in his movies is for him to fuck till he ejaculates, and to then finger fuck his partner until she squirts. This can particularly be found in Hardcore Innocence 6, in which most of the women seem to genuinely get off.
Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:17PM
Porn is very much about the visual I would say, and a woman having an orgasm is not a particularly visual experience, it is a much more subtle experience.
I think that porn is also, by its very nature, a selfish beast and it is about the removal of responsibility. In the porn world you get what you want and you do not need to pay for it, in fact women are overwhelmed by your manly presence without the need for you to actually spend time satisfying them.

The good news is that, as you say, men do differentiate between porn, where your own satisfaction, through an on-screen surrogate, is all; and real life where the enjoyment gained from satisfying your lady is a very real and fulfilling thing.

Sir Noel.

DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:27PM
I would love to see more of it attempted.

I love it when a scene has that little 'extra' magic between the performers, it really enhances the scene. If more effort was put in to accomplishing the female orgasm and give her genuine pleasure, I think the number of scenes that accomplish that 'magic' bit extra would increase.

DenverDon

 
DreamWeaver
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288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 7:33PM
well, as far as kissing and talking is concerned, I think that would lose the interest of most hardcore movie watchers. However, I'm sure there's plenty of these types of scenes available on the lighter vids available.

Also, to answer your question, keep in mind that when watching porn a lot of guys want to see the harder, raunchier scenes that they cant always get in their real sexual life on a regular basis. Where as your kissing, hugging, talking, etc can be accomplished by any regular joe in their personal life.

I wouldn't mind seeing more of women having orgasms. In fact, I think most studios become WAY to repetitive in their scenes; this includes the most popular studies such as evil angel, redlight district, anabolic/diabolic, etc.

Why is it that when we have an average of 4 or more scenes on a dvd, in most cases these do not contain women having orgasms? or at least one or two internal cumshots? Or how about the women wearing some sexy lingerie that stays on for the entire scene? Would it be that difficult to mix things up a little while keeping the same 'theme' of the the dvd title? Instead we have to get speciality dvd's that dedicated to each.

I for one am tired of seeing almost EVERY scene end with the girl not getting off, and a guy wacking off into her awaiting open mouth.

Just my 2 cents..

DreamWeaver

HoldenMagroin
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Baking in the California Heat
122 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 9:19PM
I wish it was more important to the producers/directors.

At the risk of sounding "soft", I really enjoy scenes where giving the woman/women in the scene pleasure is important. At the bare minimum I want to see the women having fun and enjoying the experience. If I happen to be pleasuring myself to a scene and the woman has an orgasm, that is usually a nice trigger for me to finish, too. Once she is finished (at least temporarily), subconciously I guess I figure I can finish, too.

I am not a big fan of a lot of the rough stuff or the scenes where the women seem to be in some distress or pain. That just doesn't do it for me, although I know others enjoy it and I certainly don't want to put them down. To each his/her own.


Have a great week!!
Always, HoldenMagroin

Mythsong
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306 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 11:43PM
I don't believe that the two are mutually exclusive. Why can't kissing and talking, as foreplay, lead to "raunchier scenes", lead back to talking and kissing? After all, people, in real life, do engage in both of those activities, and, more often than not, all in the same night. <grin>
Interesting, but that's not my personal experience. I get as much out of seeing responsibility on screen as I do the mere sex itself. To refer back to another thread, I take equal pleasure in "projecting" AND "appreciating". And, when I project, I don't want to see either partner not respecting the other in a way that I wouldn't in my own life.
MLyons
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8/02
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 12:01AM
Speelie pretty much covered how I feel about this.

I'd love to see this at least attempted more... Even if it isn't real, I'd sure like to see the IDEA presnted in the scene. Whether it's authentic or not makes no difference, as long as _I'm_ convinced that it's real. :) How hard is that?! ::sarcastic grin::

That's not to say that I haven't seen women orgasm in porn, but we don't see it near enough. On the other hand, I guess I'm not doing my part to really DEMAND it either... so maybe I should change that (not that I'm deluding myself into thinking I have any real influence). I've been vocal about wanting women to seem to enjoy themselves... and wanting them to be able to put forth that special something that Speelie speaks of, but as someone who likes watching the face of a gorgeous woman having an orgasm, I should make my voice a little louder.

I'm with you SB... I want to see this MUCH more often. I like the softer side of porn just as much as I like the more intense. And in both situations, I want everyone to be enjoying themselves. Failing that, I'd sure like to be fooled into thinking that they are. Authenticity tends to work better though, since most porn performers aren't hired for their acting skills. :)

Mike L.

Pornmaster Mike
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Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 11:35AM
Women having orgasms - not important?

Very important!!!!

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aybesea
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5/02
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 11:40AM
As in almost everything, it depends. It can be very sexy and necessary for the woman to orgasm, if the flic is that kind of flic (think Andrew Blake, whose flix I love by the way). Or it can be completely incidental and unnecessary (think Down The Hatch).

The depends part relates to my mood when I pop in the DVD to get off... maybe I want to see sensuality, maybe I just want to watch a hole get plundered. Both of them have their time and place in porn.

Edited by - aybesea on 3/4/2003 11:39:55 AM

FastForward
Member

60 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 5 2003 : 2:24AM
It's impossible to see that a woman's actually orgasmed, so I'll focus on what you theoretically see: swollen, wet clits and labias.

I say "theoretically," because in reality, few pornographers appear to even be trying to capture any semblance of this. The fact that pussies are now shaved only makes their state of nonarousal that much obvious. Even getting wet is rare outside of "squirting" scenes, and for most of these, it's obvious that you're watching bladder release as opposed to sexual release.

COME ON, people! Even if the actress won't be coming in real life, the physiological signs that she possibly might are easily attainable. It doesn't have to be so hard. All I'd think it would take is a few minutes with a Rabbit or Hitachi Magic Wand, a few minutes before the scene.

the french tickler
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Deep in the heart of man
154 Posts
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Posted - Mar 6 2003 : 11:40AM
Wasn't there a series of titles screaming orgasms i havent seen any but i would buy them if the title was true. I think everybody would like to see more orgasms but i remember reading a reiew about a stacey valentine film that had her coming as part of the dvd extras, that to me says it all about the attitude in modern porn. Not needed -which is a crying shame.



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