See the first "Adventures of Buttman" movie.
His camera work defined gonzo.
EDIT: added the last line.
Edited by - conquistador on 6/14/2007 8:48:58 PM
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| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 |  Posted - Jun 14 2007 : 8:47PMSeveral here, think that its Rocco, but you have to go back to the early l980's(when Rocco was still in junior high) to find the answer. And since most of you were also in either junior high or elementary school in that time frame, you may not have seen the Ed Powers series "Bus Stop Tales," in which Powers would visit LA County bus terminals and recruit young girls to, "make a movie." Then, Powers would take the "recruit" back to another location (usually, some sleazy hotel room) and whatever explicit sex that followed, would be filmed. Since these were reality type sexual vignettes, with little dialogue or plot (the essence of gonzo) and all the other adult film directors at that time were making feature, plot-driven films, it is "my" opinion that Ed Powers, should be credited with creating gonzo-- the porn genre that comprises over 80% of ALL the adult films produced today. Of course, I welcome any challenge opinion. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Jun 14 2007 : 8:48PM See the first "Adventures of Buttman" movie. His camera work defined gonzo. EDIT: added the last line. Edited by - conquistador on 6/14/2007 8:48:58 PM [Link] |
| rc7394 Senior Member 1109 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jun 14 2007 : 8:58PM And of course John Leslie started The Voyeur series which was the start of it all. I saw this stuff and it totally blew me away. Who needs stories and costumes? Edited by - rc7394 on 6/14/2007 8:58:59 PM [Link] |
| picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Jun 14 2007 : 9:08PM [Link] |
| MisterNoGood Member 195 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Jun 14 2007 : 9:19PM However I think it was Stagliano that make Gonzo popular. Edited by - MisterNoGood on 6/14/2007 9:32:51 PM [Link] |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 10:24AM [Link] |
| warrenwest67 Member Thanks for the mammaries. 966 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 1:53PM [Link] |
| Randygoatboy New Member 3 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 2:49PM [Link] |
| Schmse Senior Member I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 3:11PM [Link] |
| Rogue Member 105 Posts 4/05 | Posted - Jun 15 2007 : 11:08PM Back to the topic, i think people today have two different notions of what gonzo is: one is the bare-bones style of movie with no plot in contrast to a feature, the other is the hardcore anal-themed movie. They are not always the same, since there are many anal-themed movies with a semblance of a story using typical "gonzo" girls filmed even today, especially in Europe. [Link] |
| Steve Holmes Senior Member 1235 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 3:48AM Steve Holmes [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 4:00AM [Link] |
| jay tee Member 22 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 9:22AM For example in Buttman's Ultimate Workout John was running around with his little camera hiding from people hoping not to be seen while taping the action. People were acting according to a story. The older definition of gonzo was having the camera being part of the scene. Today gonzo refers more to couch porn where the girl looks at the camera ans says "Hi I'm Candy. I'm here to be fucked in the ass by seven midgets" [Link] |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 10:04AM [Link] |
| Kevin Moore Member Subdivided & Synthetic 320 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 1:04PM The godfather of really the whole concept is Alex (aka Rex Borsky). In many ways he's the god father of the way sex is shot today. From rougher anal scenes, gaping and the whole "gonzo" concept. In turn Alex influenced the shooters who refined the style (Leslie, Silvera and Stagliano). [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 1:19PM [Link] |
| Everett Senior Member 2088 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 2:53PM [Link] |
| todhunternet Member Burbank 38 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jun 16 2007 : 6:57PM --t who bought his first VCR so he could record "The Muppet Show." [Link] |
| BeDawg Member 80 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Jun 18 2007 : 6:19AM [Link] |
| girth peso Member 125 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jun 18 2007 : 11:35AM There has been "reality" or interview-like porn, but the real innovator and Godfather of Gonzo is John "Buttman" Stags. The rest are followers. [Link] |
| rc7394 Senior Member 1109 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jun 18 2007 : 9:56PM [Link] |
| HarryWild Member Make me believe 622 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 3:46AM Well it a close call to call it gonzo since it did have a plot but not much of a plot and got into it in 2 minutes time frame! I still would call it gonzo! Edited by - HarryWild on 6/19/2007 3:50:34 AM [Link] |
| eduardo911 Senior Member 1299 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 2:26PM Edited by - hardware on 6/19/2007 6:29:12 PM [Link] |
| Izabella Tommy Kaye Productions 15 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 3:17PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 6:31PM [Link] |
| PabloDiablo Member 23 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jun 30 2007 : 4:47PM Alex de Renzy as well. Not a gonzo shooter but highly influential in moving porn away from storylines and towards the gonzo genre which now dominates. We should also make a distinction from the Amatuer Video craze of the late 80s and early 90s and the popularization of Gonzo by Buttman and Seymore Butts of that same time period. Ed Powers very much belongs to the former and his dirty debs and bus stop series were not really that early in the ballgame. Bobby Hollander made the same type of stuff much earlier, sans the cult following, and it was just as crappy. [Link] |
| JEWEL (imposter) Jewel De'Nyle 736 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Jun 30 2007 : 11:00PM Rocco Randy West Ed Powers [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 3:45AM Edited by - hardware on 7/1/2007 11:50:57 AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Jul 1 2007 : 4:01AM [Link] |
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