Ginger Lynn

This excerpt from last Wednesday's AVN.com article sums it up for me:

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as much as i'm not a fan of all the gossip crap, at least for the first time the girls have a place to tell their story.

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I have read all about this and am still really surprised by it. However, I have honestly never seen a single Ron Jeremy scene. I just know him as the guy who has a documentary made about him. He's the guy who sometimes a pretty funny standup comedian. He's the guy who E! seems to have on speed dial for their various E! True Hollywood Story stories. But this has reminded me again that he is a pornstar and he fucks women for a living. However, there is no need for speculation on who did what to who. It seems rather complicated and I just wanted to note that the whole situation has really, really surprised me.

Kelly

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Ginger 4 Life!

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One of the accounts on topprotalent says that she did tell someone, and he didn't believe her.
Another says she told someone, and he told her it would be best not to say anything.

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I'm getting a feeling that many people here have already convicted RJ.

Edited by - Ramsey on 8/29/2003 7:28:47 PM

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Without my taking sides, let me also point out that "innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of the U.S. criminal justice system, not a rule governing personal beliefs or the assessment of truth generally.

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Here in the UK a TV presenter was named on air as an alleged rapist of another TV presenter - a rape that was supposed to have happened around 15+ years ago. The police questioned him and investigation began. The accused stayed publicly silent on the matter despite the intense public interest. A court cleared him in the end and he only then did he speak to the press on the matter. In the meantime though his TV career fell apart. He will find work again at some point but for a man who the judge said can leave court without as much as a smudge on his reputation, its terrible to see his whole career has been snatched away from him purely on gossip.

I'm not saying either RJ or GL are right at all that is only something a court can. But now that there has been a public accusation then the police owe it to both individuals to get themselves involved so a court can clear up the matter - gossip should not be allowed to decide who is guilty and who is not.

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An accusation twenty years after the fact doesn’t sit well with most people because it is so hard to defend: the evidence and witnesses are lost to time. That’s why we have statues of limitations in the US. Had Ginger said “last Tuesday” or “last year” it would be one thing, but after this much time, with no credible fear of retribution, it’s hard to swallow a he-said/she-said accusation.

“Career Suicide” would be the case if people thought she was randomly tossing out rape accusations. No director or producer needs that sort of risk: look at the Vicky Vette situation. But that’s a different thing: Vicky was new and nobody knew if she could be believed. The accused were well known and have worked with a lot of girls, and absent other signs of problems, witnesses, evidence, etc, the belief seems to be that Vicky is a flake.

I don’t find any usenet threads on Google for Ron raping Ginger prior to 8/25/2003: it doesn’t seem she made any prior accusations that made it even as far as the Internet rumor mills.

Ron was arrested this past May in Ohio but nothing came of it. That does predate the current allegations but doesn’t support them.

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Ron is the only star to ever ask how much he'd be paid to do a chat on our site. Then he grabbed me and "hugged" me.

I'm not saying I know the truth about anything, but there was every reason for Ginger not to speak up about this. The fact that other actresses have reported similar complaints says a lot.

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Edited by - BigFerret on 9/1/2003 12:56:38 PM

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second, now that i read 'myload's post i stop wondering how some adt-members get to have a record of like a thousand posts within a year. dude, with all due respect, if you don't want to post, why post?

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Obviously I didn't know him back then (I was like 10 or something), but I do know that today, he seems to make a point of name-dropping as much as possible. A new, naive girl who has seen him on MTV videos and documentaries on TV might think that all the people in the industry must have a lot of respect for Ron. Hell, the amount of times they've seen Jim South or Sharon Mitchell or Bill Margold on TV, they probably think those people could make or break a career too.

By the time Ginger realized differently, there probably was a significant time span, and she might have thought, no one will believe me now that I haven't said anything for so long.

And the statute of limitations for rape prosecutions is 9 years. So Ginger can't file charges now, but other girls could.

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In the AVN article, Jeremy is quoted as saying, "After having sex with someone on the beach, why would you not want to have sex with them?"

And, "We were very good friends, how can you rape a friend?"

Hey, Ron, I've got a question of my own. How self-centered, egotistical, and ignorant do you have to be to believe this crap?

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The biggest problem with this industry is that great stars are too easily forgotten.

Thanks again.

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"The greatest argument for the existence of God,
is the beauty of the female form."

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