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Panoramata
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Posted - Sep 8 2020 : 6:07PM
There are some of these scenes at the above mentioned sites .
It seems that the starring female sometimes hires the guys on her own for her personal ManyV ... , or sometimes the guys are from a recognized team that does these scenes regualarly , and then you also have smaller companies that are only present at these networks and don´t have these big websites like the established studios .

Ex :

Avery Jane has shot a 4on1 featuring double-blowjob during reverse cowgirl DP , which is one my fav positions . However the screens and previews don´t show variety in other airtight positions , that´s why I didn´t think of purchasing it . It would have been the first time . But frankly , 30 bucks is not as expensive as other scenes you might encounter , but still considerably costlier than the tickets I have to give at Legalporno for such a scene .

So , 30 bucks is something I would give for a first Dp of Vienna Black ( daydreaming ) or Jaye Summers ( cloud castle ) and maybe slightly more for their GangB ...but rather not in the low-quality style of Lela´s Star´s first Dp ( short clip ) .

https://www.manyvids.com/Video/2173137/avery-vs-the-bbc-titans/

( See the team ? : " BBC titans " - having shot for many models on Manyvids )

There is also Maxine X , a busty Cambodian , who is done several GangB scenes (for her personal site it seems ) . In one scene there are even 5 guys !

I am giving these examples because a model told me that in her case it would not be financially feasable on her platforms .
There might be additional reasons concerning her that I will maybe touch in following posts .
Not going into details now . True Gangbang fans can ask me through personal message .

Whatever , I see that for these other models mentioned above it has worked ; and not only once .


Edited by - Panoramata on Sep 8 2020

Panoramata
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Posted - Nov 15 2020 : 9:19PM
At the Legalporno network there are regularly home-produced 3on1 ( or more guys ) DP scenes from models who were or were never affiliated with their official studios . This has started with the pandemic , for lack of content .
It seems to work for these models ; they can manage to pay/organize many males for these scenes .

Ok , well , the model I was writing about is Chloe Amour , who wrote on her thread that a 3on1 would not be financially feasable on her own platforms .
But as I see ( mentioned above ) , there are all classes of models ( famous , somehow known , unknown ) who are able to do it ; so why not a superstar like Chloe ?

I am just speculating here , but would the male models charge more for acting for the site of a supermodel ; thinking that she will make a lot of money afterwards anyway ? Could that be a reason for her not wanting to make it ...

PS : Btw , I completely forgot about Ariana Marie´s airtighting plans . ( not recent )

Edited by - Panoramata on 11/15/2020 9:20:52 PM

Feet N Ass
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Posted - Nov 17 2020 : 9:46AM
^ I would imagine that Euro male performers don't cost as much as American or America-based ones. Also, American performers may want more for DPs and DAPs due to the close contact with another man, whereas in mainland Europe this is less likely, especially if they work regularly for Legalporno where these scenes are common. I would also imagine that Chloe would want higher production values, also adding to her cost. I see no reason to not believe her statement.

Always feet n ass. In that order.

Panoramata
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Posted - Nov 17 2020 : 10:02AM
^

In the first post I gave the examp. and link of Avery J . Well , the screenshots look very good and professional to me and if she , relatively or quite unknown , can manage to do it , I think other Americans should similarly be able to find the necessary means .

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Feet N Ass
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Posted - Nov 17 2020 : 10:34AM
^ So you're saying Chloe is a liar then?

Also, production costs in Europe may well be cheaper, or maybe that performers boyfriend is a tech whiz with all the latest gadgets. That picture looked good for an only fans/many vids thing, but substandard for mainstream production values, which maybe is what Chloe would want for a DP scene. Chloe having high standards for her scenes is not a bad thing.

Always feet n ass. In that order.

 
Panoramata
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Posted - Nov 17 2020 : 10:47AM
^

Whoaa , heavy accusation !
Why do you feel the need to escalate this discussion ?

Btw , I wrote " other Americans " in my last post implying that Avery Jane is American . Are you reading the whole text before replying ?

The screenshot might be below that what the big studios can offer , but to me it looks still better than what IV from Legalporno sometimes offers ( bad angles , bad outfits etc ) or Boundgangbangs ( too much ropes etc ) . Not to forget that HardX often features too much choking , gagging and other gimmicks that I dislike ( some nice Gangbangs though , rarely ) .
And it´s light years better than the low-quality style of Lela´s Star´s first Dp ( short clip ) , who is also a superstar , just like Chloe .

I would be happy to spend some money on Chloe´s 4on1 with the same quality as Avery Jane´s , especially if it would feature a simultaneous facial clean-up at the end .

Edited by - Panoramata on 11/17/2020 10:49:36 AM

Feet N Ass
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Posted - Nov 19 2020 : 5:46AM
^ I escalated nothing. I asked the question because it was what I inferred from what you were typing.

Sorry I missed one line in two posts, but Avery Jane being American doesn't change my point that much. I've never heard of her, so I imagine her fanbase won't be too big and expecting a certain standard of video. Kenna James did a poor quality DP for her Only Fans or Many Vids and is charging $75 for it. As you can imagine, people in her thread aren't happy about it. Chloe could definitely do something similar, but she wants more quality than that.

Besides, I don't like Only Fans or Many Vids, so I'm perfectly happy with her only doing it in mainstream scenes. I simply tried to answer your question about why she isn't doing it. I will leave you to it.

Always feet n ass. In that order.

Edited by - Feet N Ass on 11/19/2020 9:07:11 AM

DP_to_mouth
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Posted - Nov 19 2020 : 11:30AM
I think it just comes down to some girls prefer to be on set for a day, get paid, and be done with it. Others are willing to put in the work to bankroll, market, and publish the scene themselves. Anyone who cares about quality probably understands the amount of work involved in shooting and publishing a successful gangbang. I imagine sometimes the logistics are just too much and they would rather focus on their performance.

You use Chloe as an example but she is still a big star and getting booked. I'm personally praying/wishing/hoping for a 5on1 gangbang for Jules! 🤞😍

This is such a new paradigm, different from mainstream shoots and different than camming. Self producing and publishing are in the hands of everyone and it will be interesting to see how things shake out. I can't see mainstream sites/directors going away anytime soon, but future generations of sex workers will almost certainly be more savvy, shrewd, and motivated to self produce good quality stuff. Especially if no mainstream sites are calling them.

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Posted - Nov 19 2020 : 3:11PM
MOD:
Keep the bitching about OnlyFans out of this thread. It has gotten beyond old that any threads that have comments about OnlyFans start getting bitching. Don't like the price, fine, don't buy it. But let people have threads where they can discuss OnlyFans without the bitching that always erupts.
Feet N Ass
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Posted - Nov 22 2020 : 9:32AM
^ I wasn't bitching. I actually tried to answer the guys question. I think it's fair to explain why you don't like something whilst being objective. That said, this topic isn't worth it so this'll be my last post here.

Always feet n ass. In that order.

Panoramata
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Posted - Dec 27 2020 : 5:04PM
Busty , slim half-Black latina Emmanuelle Noire has stepped up her game and offers 2on1 , 4on1 and 7on1 DP scenes at her OF !

Unfortunately there are no screenshots or trailers , so I will be waiting until I can find some review / user comment .

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Posted - Dec 27 2020 : 6:49PM

Is any of her stuff available for download or is it all stream only?

Panoramata
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Posted - Dec 28 2020 : 9:10AM
^^

Adding the fact that just at the same time Kenna James is advertising her first DP , also at OnlyF : But what a difference !
Excellent trailer , we get the idea of the positions and camera angles . If it were one of my old crushes like Vienna Black or Jaye Summers doing their first DP, I´d pay some bucks for such a well-done scene . ( Post edit : I see some posts critizising the scene --- Haven´t seen the whole thing ; but at least one gets the idea of what´s happening in the scene and it looks 5 times better than what Lela Star has offered as first OF DP )

Moreover , Kenna is very famous , whereas Emmanuelle is not ( but I´m more interested in her than Kenna )
I wish Emmanuelle took some clues from Kenna on how to advertise her products and attracting more new fans .

Edited by - Panoramata on 12/28/2020 10:51:03 AM

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It's the ass, stupid!
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Huh, good one.
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